6p camera on Nougat

[eric002]

So I tried using this manual camera app from the play store on my 6p however the problem is, is the fact that is doesn't have a panoramic mode unfortunately. I think the stock camera app does a pretty good once you two the focus ring and whatnot however, what does everyone think about it here though? Thanks. This is he app I am Talking about, by the way.

 

[Davide Accogli]

So I tried using this manual camera app from the play store on my 6p however the problem is, is the fact that is doesn't have a panoramic mode unfortunately. I think the stock camera app does a pretty good once you two the focus ring and whatnot however, what does everyone think about it here though? Thanks. This is he app I am Talking about, by the way.

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Link to Play Store? Thanks

 

[eric002]

Link to Play Store? Thanks

Surely, sorry about that, here you go.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...ps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2&token=5UfeK9_I

 

[Davide Accogli]

Did you run the compatibility test?

 

[eric002]

Yeah, and the compatibility testing is successful, I'm Just wondering what everyone things of the stock camera app once you use the focus ring of course.

 

[Davide Accogli]

I feel very comfortable with the stock (Google) camera. Focus is very good and quality is superior to other apps I tried in the Play Store, including Camera Zoom FX (which became big and a bit confusing).

 

[eric002]

I understand. I do love photo sphere mode and everything else. It works soo well.

 

[GSDer]

I guess there's a good reason it only has a 3.8 rating...

 

[eric002]

What does that camera app I put in the link for?

 

[LeoRex]

I've used pretty much every camera app of any importance... and I keep coming back to the Google Camera.... 99 times out of 100, I just need a picture without any fussy settings. And HDR+ is king of clean.... that mode, while slow, results in the cleanest, noise free and natural looking photos I've taken with a phone. It's the first phone I've used that when I pixel peep, the image doesn't look like a heavily processed mess.

 

[eric002]

I've used pretty much every camera app of any importance... and I keep coming back to the Google Camera.... 99 times out of 100, I just need a picture without any fussy settings. And HDR+ is king of clean.... that mode, while slow, results in the cleanest, noise free and natural looking photos I've taken with a phone. It's the first phone I've used that when I pixel peep, the image doesn't look like a heavily processed mess.

Do agree with you. Out of all the android phones I've ever used, the camera app and hardware are very nice. HDR auto mode does work extremely well for the natural looking pictures! I also agree hwy Indo t need all of those fussy features or options adjust something pretty basic. I just wanted to hear what everyone else though. When you're taking a picture though, do you tap the focus ring around what you're taking a picture of though to get the best possible shot ?

 

[LeoRex]

When you're taking a picture though, do you tap the focus ring around what you're taking a picture of though to get the best possible shot ?

Usually. That way I can control what the target is.

 

[eric002]

Usually. That way I can control what the target is.

That makes sense. Thanks for your opinion. I do the same thing as well.

 

[Markxmlx]

Manual Camera is the least inconsistent third party app with manual controls and RAW shooting that I have used thus far.

It still doesn't beat the stock camera app for some key reasons:

1. HDR+, which pretty much always makes the image better and fixes the default non-HDR image processing which is literally +Contrast, thus screwing up the already questionable dynamic range of the 6P's sensor.
2. Slow motion video.
3. General reliability.
These third party apps lack consistency when it comes to focusing properly and taking photos. ProShot is a huge offender when it comes to this which is a great shame because if it worked even 90% of the time I would actually choose that over Manual Camera.

Manual exposure is a good feature but you can just tap to focus/expose a darker or lighter equidistant object (along the same focal plane of what you actually want to in focus) to somewhat compensate for the lack of an exposure slider (though it is certainly not ideal).

I'd be willing to pay for a manual exposure slider like the one on the iPhone's camera app provided it's on Google Camera.

 

[eric002]

Manual Camera is the least inconsistent third party app with manual controls and RAW shooting that I have used thus far.

It still doesn't beat the stock camera app for some key reasons:

1. HDR+, which pretty much always makes the image better and fixes the default non-HDR image processing which is literally +Contrast, thus screwing up the already questionable dynamic range of the 6P's sensor.
2. Slow motion video.
3. General reliability.
These third party apps lack consistency when it comes to focusing properly and taking photos. ProShot is a huge offender when it comes to this which is a great shame because if it worked even 90% of the time I would actually chose that over Manual Camera.

I agreed with you. The stock Google camera app with HDR auto mode always on really does work wonders all of the time

 

[LeoRex]

I agreed with you. The stock Google camera app with HDR auto mode always on really does work wonders all of the time

It's a marvelous mode... It actually used less artificial processing of the image. I've done a lot of comparing HDR shots between it and other phones like my wife's S7 and I can see some clear differences.

The S7 (and phones like the LG G4) seems to merge the source exposures together then process the image like it would a normal shot. End result is an image that had improved range, but the processing artifacts are not any different than the non-HDR version.

HDR+ doesn't so much fix exposure as it does reduce noise. But since it does that via a pixel by pixel comparison between exposures, rather than comparing a pixel to the ones around it, the end result is an image that preserves much more of the actual subject. Any noise that is left is a more natural, pleasant looking grain. It's as if the process effectively increases the size of the 6P's sensor.

Which is no accident since HDR+ basically borrows it's approach from the tricks astronomers use to improve exposures from telescopes... Where any information added via artificial processing is useless information. They only want what the telescope saw, not what an algorithm spit out.

 

[eric002]

It's a marvelous mode... It actually used less artificial processing of the image. I've done a lot of comparing HDR shots between it and other phones like my wife's S7 and I can see some clear differences.

The S7 (and phones like the LG G4) seems to merge the source exposures together then process the image like it would a normal shot. End result is an image that had improved range, but the processing artifacts are not any different than the non-HDR version.

HDR+ doesn't so much fix exposure as it does reduce noise. But since it does that via a pixel by pixel comparison between exposures, rather than comparing a pixel to the ones around it, the end result is an image that preserves much more of the actual subject. Any noise that is left is a more natural, pleasant looking grain. It's as if the process effectively increases the size of the 6P's sensor.

Which is no accident since HDR+ basically borrows it's approach from the tricks astronomers use to improve exposures from telescopes... Where any information added via artificial processing is useless information. They only want what the telescope saw, not what an algorithm spit out.

See how that's very interesting. In years past, I've never received heavily in HDR auto mode only because I didn't know exactly what it did and whatnot. You're see right though about the actual mode and taking and processing the image thereafter.

 

[Markxmlx]

HDR+ doesn't so much fix exposure as it does reduce noise. But since it does that via a pixel by pixel comparison between exposures, rather than comparing a pixel to the ones around it, the end result is an image that preserves much more of the actual subject. Any noise that is left is a more natural, pleasant looking grain. It's as if the process effectively increases the size of the 6P's sensor.

Which is no accident since HDR+ basically borrows it's approach from the tricks astronomers use to improve exposures from telescopes... Where any information added via artificial processing is useless information. They only want what the telescope saw, not what an algorithm spit out.

Do you have some articles or image comparisons that illustrate this? I'd be interested in taking a look.

Edit: No need anymore. Just found your excellent post on HDR+. Well done!