720p doesn't belong on a flagship.

[Billy Bob Jimmy Joe]

Some may say that's good enough for a 4.6 display. I completely disagree. I decided to return the Z5C and got the 6P. Other than the 720p display, I pretty much loved everything about the phone. The design is great. The camera is great. The performance is great. The battery is great. The fingerprint scanner is good. Only being able to choose the 720p on YouTube is an absolute deal-breaker for me. It's a little too pixelated in my eyes. Browsing for images on Google is also pixelated. Sony should have used 1080p for the Z5C, 1,440p for the Z5, and not made the Premium.

Google Nexus 6P

 

[CKwik240]

The z5c is not really a flagship. The z5 or perhaps the z5 premium are the flagships. There was most certainly some compromise made in the design of the z5c to accommodate the size. Smaller battery being a big factor. And to meet the battery life targets and perhaps cost targets, screen resolution was sacrificed.

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[raqball]

I don't notice any difference at all between the 720p screen on the Z5C and 1080p screens on other larger phones.. Spec warriors won't like the 720p number but in all reality it's perfectly fine for a 4.6" screen.

Tens of millions of iPhone 6 and iPhone 6S buyers would also disagree with the title of this thread.

The funny or interesting part, depending on how you look at it, is that spec warriors only slam Android devices.. The iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6S only has a 750p screen and you rarely, if ever, hear people saying the screen is bad or complaining about it.. Odd really if you think about it..

From your other posts here it never really sounded like the Z5C was a good fit for you anyway..

To each their own, enjoy the 6P.. If you are into ginourmous phones then the 6P is an awesome choice! Most people looking at the Z5C would never consider the 6P and vise-versa. Sony compact devices are aimed at people who want flagship'ish specs but don't want to carry something the size of a TV in their pocket...

 

[Billy Bob Jimmy Joe]

I know it's not always the pixel count that determines the quality but for the Z5C I believe it does. Apple does do an amazing job with their "lower spec" making it feel and look very high-end. I don't necessarily like huge phones. I just want a very high quality display, camera, performance, fast charging, and fingerprint scanner. The 6P just happens to meet those needs.

Google Nexus 6P

 

[Billy Bob Jimmy Joe]

The z5c is not really a flagship. The z5 or perhaps the z5 premium are the flagships.

That may be so but the Z5C did cost over $500 upon release. If it was a budget phone for $350 then I would have no complaints.

Google Nexus 6P

 

[DJ Grand Theft Audio]

For the price 720p is fine. Your getting front facing speakers. 32gb of on board storage. Expandable memory. Water proofing. Decent battery life.

With the iPhone 6s you only get 16gb of storage for the cheapest one with a smaller battery. You are paying much more money than the Sony. And you still only got 720p. That's supposed to be flagship. In my eyes that is a rip off.

With the 6p very nice phone a bit large in the hand but If you require a nice big hi res screen then this is ideal.
You can't really compare the xperia z5c to the 6p.
Iphone 6s+, Sony xperia z5 premium and nexus 6p are all in the same class in terms of spec. The z5c is a different kettle of fish. For someone that wants a smaller handset with a very good spec then they can't go wrong.

 

[raqball]

I know it's not always the pixel count that determines the quality but for the Z5C I believe it does. Apple does do an amazing job with their "lower spec" making it feel and look very high-end. I don't necessarily like huge phones. I just want a very high quality display, camera, performance, fast charging, and fingerprint scanner. The 6P just happens to meet those needs.

If you liked the Z5C aside from the fact it's 720p why not look at the regular Z5? Same awesomeness with a larger 1080p screen and an extra GB of RAM..

I don't agree that the iPhone 6 or 6S screen looks any better than the screen on the Z5C. Additionally I also have a Nexus 5X and I actually think the screen on the Z5C looks cleaner and crisper than the 1080p one on the 5X.

The fingerprint reader location on the new Nexus (5X and 6P) is a bit of a bummer. While it's fast and accurate being on the back of the phone prevents you from being able to turn on the phone while it's laying on a desk, counter or table..

The Z5C is not flagship pricing. Most flagships start at about $650 and the Z5C is generally around $500. The Nexus 5X and 6P are priced to sell but this is always the case with Nexus devices so no surprise there.

As long as you are happy with the 6P then that is really all that matters because it's your phone and your money. For me? I would not have bought the 6P even if it was sold for $199 as it's just to ginormous for me. Heck my 5X is even to large for my liking..

There are not many options for a sub 5" device with flagship'ish specs. You basically have the Z5C at $500 and the iPhone 6S at $650. That iPhone 6S is really $750 though because the $650 version only comes with 16GB storage. Add in the Z5C has an SD card slot (something missing from flagship devices these days) and that makes the decision a no brainer for me..

If I were into ginormous phones I'd probably go for the Note.. If I am going to carry something the size of a TV in my pocket then I'd at least want the additional benefits the Note offers. Sure it cost more than the 6P but it's also the MUCH better device (aside from TouchWiz) in my opinion..

 

[Billy Bob Jimmy Joe]

If you liked the Z5C aside from the fact it's 720p why not look at the regular Z5?

That was the plan but Amazon was selling the 64gb 6P for $500 while the Z5 cost $560.

Google Nexus 6P

 

[Billy Bob Jimmy Joe]

For the price 720p is fine.

The display is fine but I don't think it's good enough for the price. 720p is something I expect to find on a Moto G and other mid and lower end Android. Even the Moto X Pure has a 1,440p for under $400.

Google Nexus 6P

 

[raqball]

The display is fine but I don't think it's good enough for the price

So this about specs or real world use? You say the screen is fine but then throw out it's only 720p? Who cares what the number is as long as the screen is crisp and clear..

720p is something I expect to find on a Moto G and other mid and lower end.

The iPhone 6S is easily considered by many to be very high end and a flagship yet it only has a 750p screen. It starts at $650 for 16gb and goes up quickly in price.. For the 128GB version you'd spend $850 and still have a 750p screen. My Z5C was $500 and I can add in a 128GB SD card (giving me more total storage) for another $50 putting my total at $550 ($300 less)...

I get it now, this thread is 100% about specs and NOT real world use. Since I do not, will not, and have not ever purchased based on specs, I'll leave this thread be now...

In my opinion you are stuck on #'s that mean nothing just like when you were stuck on the 4G displaying instead of LTE.. That's not a slam or a put down I just think you are more #'s based than I am..

Enjoy the 6P and regardless of that 720p spec, my Z5C is going nowhere any time soon except in my hand and in my pocket!

 

[Billy Bob Jimmy Joe]

I did say it look fine. I didn't say it look great. The display didn't look great to me which was a deal breaker for me. I expected a great display from a Sony phone that cost over $500. iPhone's display looks great to me with "only" 750p. Apple knows how to make their product perform, look, and feel premium without amazing specs.

Google Nexus 6P

 

[raqball]

If the screen on the iPhone 6S looked better to you than the screen on the Z5C then you had a defective unit!!

It's sounding more and more like you are only here to bash the Z5C. Did you really even have the Z5C?

Anyways it's all moot so enjoy your 6P...

 

[DJ Grand Theft Audio]

The display is fine but I don't think it's good enough for the price. 720p is something I expect to find on a Moto G and other mid and lower end Android. Even the Moto X Pure has a 1,440p for under $400.

Google Nexus 6P

Yes but the moto x pure edition has a 5.7 inch screen. In fact there are a many cheaper phones out there sporting 1080p and above screens. I don't think there are any similar-sized phones to the z5c that offer a resolution higher than 720p. Can you name any?
I don't think so. It's just not feasible to put a 1080p display on a compact handset. Why do you think the iPhone 6s only has 750p?
Unless they create a long lasting super battery with a small capacity I don't see 1080p coming to phones that have under 5 inch screens.

 

[DJ Grand Theft Audio]

I did say it look fine. I didn't say it look great. The display didn't look great to me which was a deal breaker for me. I expected a great display from a Sony phone that cost over $500. iPhone's display looks great to me with "only" 750p. Apple knows how to make their product perform, look, and feel premium without amazing specs.

Google Nexus 6P

Yes the iPhone 6s is a great phone but you are paying much more money and apple selling a 16gb version for that ridiculous high price. You must be kidding. Sorry Apple but you shouldn't even be selling a 16gb iphone in 2015 when all other flagships have 32gb minimum.
I look forward to seeing the iPhone 7 come out and seeing whether Apple have changed and offer some decent storage at a decent price. After all 16gb is just not good enough storage for this day and age.

 

[Billy Bob Jimmy Joe]

It's sounding more and more like you are only here to bash the Z5C. Did you really even have the Z5C?

I did mention that everything about the Z5C is great with the exception of the display only looking decent. I personally require a great display. That's why I couldn't go on with Z5C. It's still a really good phone. I'm not bashing it.

Google Nexus 6P

 

[raqball]

I think we are beating a dead horse here.

There are basically only 2 high end / flagship'ish phones available that are under 5" in screen size and they both use less than 1080p screens. The Z5C uses a 720p screen and the iPhone 6S uses a 750p screen.

Maybe Apple sprinkles some magic dust on their 750p screen but I don't see a difference between them. Maybe you just don't like LCD screens and are more partial to Amoled? I personally hate Amoled screens. I suppose that could partially explain why the you think the Z5C screen was bad.

The Z3C had a 720p screen and the only people who complained about it were spec warriors. The screen was fine! I had it and loved it! The Z5C has a 720p screen and the only people who complain about it are spec warriors! I have it and love it!

Anyway, I should have left this thread when it became apparent that it was spec based so this time I really am out.

Enjoy the 6P...

 

[Billy Bob Jimmy Joe]

In this case, specs clearly made a difference. I don't just want great specs for the sake of having it. I only want it if it makes a significant difference. Consider that the Z5C cost more than the 6P upon release. If it was a midrange phone then I have no complaint.

Google Nexus 6P

 

[raqball]

Yes but the moto x pure edition has a 5.7 inch screen. In fact there are a many cheaper phones out there sporting 1080p and above screens. I don't think there are any similar-sized phones to the z5c that offer a resolution higher than 720p. Can you name any?
I don't think so. It's just not feasible to put a 1080p display on a compact handset. Why do you think the iPhone 6s only has 750p?
Unless they create a long lasting super battery with a small capacity I don't see 1080p coming to phones that have under 5 inch screens.

He is just here to bash the phone.. Honestly, I don't even think he had one as I can't think of a single person who would be interested in a phone the size of the 6P but also consider a phone the size of the Z5C.. It makes absolutely ZERO sense whatsoever..

If you look back at other threads we also went round and round over 4G displaying instead of LTE. A ton of information was provided to prove the Z5C is LTE and suggestions were offered on how to get the Z5C to display the LTE logo instead of 4G but none were good enough..

He keeps calling the Z5C a flagship and it's nothing of the sort. It has flagship'ish specs but it's certainly not one. Specs, specs, specs OH MY!

At any rate, hopefully this forum can get back to the people who actually own the phone and want to discuss it..

 

[Billy Bob Jimmy Joe]

Need proof that I owned and returned one?

Google Nexus 6P

 

[Billy Bob Jimmy Joe]

I never bashed it. I think it's a good phone. I said it before and I'll say it again. It's a good phone. I highly recommend this phone for anyone who wants a high end compact phone. I just watch YouTube a lot and 720p wasn't good enough. If you don't care about that then it's an amazing phone. It has an amazing camera. The best I ever used.

Google Nexus 6P