A New Depreciation For Sense

[Auzo]

After the Months of running my Evo 4g LTE stock and putting up with Sense and all it's idiosyncrasies I had one re-loading (sense home screen) too many and I decided to look for some replacement software.

Now most ROMs out right now are Sense based and I wanted nothing more to do with Sense so that left me with few choices. I have always heard good things about CM so that's ultimately where my search led me. At first it seemed like there was only a CM9 version that was very very alpha. After some more digging I found that deck and toast (developers) had actually progressed to CM10 and it was in a much further along state than CM9 was. So that is what I landed on.

It's been a couple days since I took the plunge and let me tell you, this hardware rocks when the software isn't constantly getting in its own way (Sense). CM10 is amazing, buttery smooth and nary a sign of stuttering. The multitasking is flawless, which in and of itself made this worth it. Even with its small number of very apparent bugs the user experience is still vastly superior to that of stock Sense.

Now that I know an alternative, I am that much less impressed with Sense. I wish HTC would learn to be even less heavy handed with their skins (although it does seem they are progressing in that direction, just not quickly enough). They have shown they know how to make hardware, now they need to step up to the plate on the software.

I just wanted to share my experience and give hope to those who are less than happy with their EVOs because of Sense. Believe me, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[wmurch3]

All I can say is: WOW! You are so right. I just flashed the jelly bean rom and it's like night and day. Everything is smooth. Even when downloading apps there is not a hiccup in sight.

I haven't played with it enough to find the bugs but so far I'm seriously impressed. It is nice to be back on stock coming from the nexus s 4g.

There are some things I will miss about Sense (facebook status when people call is cool) but the lag will not be missed.


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[cyanogen-man]

At least you guyes can enjoy the the vo or one x try being stuck on sense 2.6 or 3.0 on a single core snap dragon I couldn't take it anymore!!!!! So I rooted my inspire and running an aokp from called ice cold sand witch (ics) I have tryed cm7 (gingerbread) the camera works the video is getting there (HTC binaries) why :/ but any who I can't be more happy I tryed a sense 3.0 ota updated rooted from I almost threw up so yea some things I did love the clock fb integration weather I only liked those aspects everything else eh no after ditching it my little single core is flying I mean flying I can't be happier

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[unitedflow]

All I can say is: WOW! You are so right. I just flashed the jelly bean rom and it's like night and day. Everything is smooth. Even when downloading apps there is not a hiccup in sight.

I haven't played with it enough to find the bugs but so far I'm seriously impressed. It is nice to be back on stock coming from the nexus s 4g.

There are some things I will miss about Sense (facebook status when people call is cool) but the lag will not be missed.


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Can you give me the link to the jelly been rom?

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[kronosqq]

Yeah definitely. As soon as the camcorder works it'll be my daily. I've flahsed it a few times throughout the dev process to try it out, definitely great. Does anyone happen to know whether it's possible to port the Sense camera onto CM10 though? That's the one thing I think HTC does better software wise.

Also anyone who wants to download it, log onto the IRC channel, just username and captcha required. The downloads for the ROM, gapps, and the issue tracker are all up top there.
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=htc-evo-4g-lte&uio=d4

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[Auzo]

Can you give me the link to the jelly been rom?

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The developers don't want it linked around just yet, but you can find it at the top of their IRC channel, #htc-evo-4g-lte.

Here's a webapp version:
freenode Web IRC (qwebirc)

edit: looks like krono beat me too it

 

[crxssi]

Can you give me the link to the jelly been rom?

Before people get too excited- it is called "alpha" for a reason Don't be surprised if major functionality is missing or very hosed (things like cameras, NFC, WiFi, 4G, bluetooth, auto screen brightness, whacked battery life, etc). Very much want to keep an eye on that stuff.

 

[unitedflow]

Before people get too excited- it is called "alpha" for a reason Don't be surprised if major functionality is missing or very hosed (things like cameras, NFC, WiFi, 4G, bluetooth, auto screen brightness, whacked battery life, etc). Very much want to keep an eye on that stuff.

Thx. I've never rooted and installed a custom Rom before but I'm computer nerd so I'm so tempted to.

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[Auzo]

Before people get too excited- it is called "alpha" for a reason Don't be surprised if major functionality is missing or very hosed (things like cameras, NFC, WiFi, 4G, bluetooth, auto screen brightness, whacked battery life, etc). Very much want to keep an eye on that stuff.

This is a good warning especially with nightlies where things are changing on a day to day basis, but the state of the current nightlies are surprisingly polished. The only thing that doesn't work outright is the Video Camera (pictures work just fine).

NFC (including google wallet), WIFI, 4G, Bluetooth, and pretty much everything else work great with the occasional bit of wonkyness. And battery life has been great for me. Its good enough for me to use as my daily ROM.

 

[kronosqq]

Before people get too excited- it is called "alpha" for a reason Don't be surprised if major functionality is missing or very hosed (things like cameras, NFC, WiFi, 4G, bluetooth, auto screen brightness, whacked battery life, etc). Very much want to keep an eye on that stuff.

For decks ROM that was true up until the last few weeks. It's been out of alpha for a long time, there are a few glitches left but the only thing I can remember really being broken at this point is the camcorder. It's definitely ready to be a daily if you don't need that.

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[kbp08tls]

I've been running it as my daily driver since the first week of August. I returned to Viper for a very short period and just couldn't stand it after being on CM10. It just felt really sluggish, and multi tasking drove me nuts.
As stated by others, the only thing that does not work outright is video camera. This ROM is at a point now where it hasn't done anything that would make me want to throw my phone, which is saying a lot.
If you're rooted and have been holding off on this, you owe it to yourself to give it a try. There are a couple of extra steps to flash it if you are on hboot 1.15, instructions are over on XDA.

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[crxssi]

Once Cyanomod gets all the stuff working, if HTC can't fix up everything this year, CM10 will likely be my route. Believe it or not, I have never used a non-stock ROM on any phone... just never felt the need until now. This broken multitasking is just pushing me over the edge.

 

[Quis89]

Once Cyanomod gets all the stuff working, if HTC can't fix up everything this year, CM10 will likely be my route. Believe it or not, I have never used a non-stock ROM on any phone... just never felt the need until now. This broken multitasking is just pushing me over the edge.

This. I havent rooted my phone since the Samsung Epic. I've had 3 Android devices since then. But now that this multitasking "issue" is starting to frustrate me more and more I feel the need to go that route again.

I dont think I can trust another HTC device if this doesnt get resolved. I can deal with delayed updates and things like that...but something that greatly effects core functionality that is ignored doesnt sit well with me.

 

[SpencerHTC]

Waiting until the Sense 4.1 update rolls out on our phone and fixes the multitasking and bloat. (Hopefully)

 

[kronosqq]

Waiting until the Sense 4.1 update rolls out on our phone and fixes the multitasking and bloat. (Hopefully)

Personally I doubt that HTC is going to change how they handle multitasking with the 4.1 update. It would be great if they did, but it would have been simple for them to do in an regular OTA by now if they were going to, and much better PR wise. That being said, I do think that even if they don't change anything it will be at least a slightly better expirience on 4.1 since it's a significantly more efficient version in general. Might mean fewer closed apps in the background.

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[dmmarck]

Personally I doubt that HTC is going to change how they handle multitasking with the 4.1 update. It would be great if they did, but it would have been simple for them to do in an regular OTA by now if they were going to, and much better PR wise. That being said, I do think that even if they don't change anything it will be at least a slightly better expirience on 4.1 since it's a significantly more efficient version in general. Might mean fewer closed apps in the background.

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I agree. It's a selling point for them, and unless you're really into phones the average user has no idea what it is or why it matters.

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[kronosqq]

Sweet! Apparently tonight's build now has the camcorder working. I'm not sure about 1080p but 720p works fine according to some people over at xda. I'm planning on flashing tomorrow and doing a walk through/speed review video of it if anyone's interested.

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[Mikey47]

Once Cyanomod gets all the stuff working, if HTC can't fix up everything this year, CM10 will likely be my route. Believe it or not, I have never used a non-stock ROM on any phone... just never felt the need until now. This broken multitasking is just pushing me over the edge.

I am also one who has never rooted or flashed a ROM. Can I ask a serious question?

What does HTC (or Sprint) care if you flash a different ROM? HTC has already sold you the hardware and sprint is charging your for the service no matter what rom is run, no?

 

[kronosqq]

I am also one who has never rooted or flashed a ROM. Can I ask a serious question?

What does HTC (or Sprint) care if you flash a different ROM? HTC has already sold you the hardware and sprint is charging your for the service no matter what rom is run, no?

I've always assumed that it's kind of a combo of two things.
1. They don't want to have to replace or fix your phone under warranty if you do something wrong and brick it or if you use root required software like overclockers or something and break something that way.
2. Since you're enabling the phone to do stuff and run stuff that they didn't test at all during development they can't gaurentee that it'll play nice with the network and don't want to be liable in any way for that.

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[kbp08tls]

I am also one who has never rooted or flashed a ROM. Can I ask a serious question?

What does HTC (or Sprint) care if you flash a different ROM? HTC has already sold you the hardware and sprint is charging your for the service no matter what rom is run, no?

Officially it's because they can't be on the hook for supporting all of the issues/bugs that can arise from rooting and flashing all of the various roms/mods out there.
Unofficially, Sprint/Asurion or any other third party insurance don't care as long as it's obvious that the issue you are bringing to them is not related to whatever software you happen to be running.

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