A700 vs TF700

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I?d like to compare this against the (still vaporware) Asus TF700. Especially w.r.t. the display. For A700:

* What is display brightness in nits? (TF700 claims 600)

* Is display IPS+? (TF700 claims yes)

* Is display Gorilla Glass 2? (TF700 claims yes)
 

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While the Acer won the race to market, it does not win in specs


Tablet:............ TF700............ A700
Resolution......... 1920 x 1280...... 1920 x 1200
Pixel density...... 228ppi........... 224ppi
Camera - Back...... 8MP.............. 5MP
Camera - Front..... 2MP.............. 1.3MP
Battery............ 25Wh + 22Wh...... 36Wh
Chipset............ 1.6GHz........... 1.3GHz
Weight............. 585g............. 680g
Thickness.......... 8.5mm............ 10.16mm



While the Acer has a bigger battery, it gets no better battery life.
Also, No keyboard dock
 
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According to Acer (A700-10k32u | Product Model) the display is defined as "Active Matrix TFT Color LCD"

I'm no expert but after reading some (on Wikipedia) it sounds like TFT is a predecessor IPS. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!

However, cnet made this comment

"Acer has yet to identify the panel technology used, viewing angles do seem to match that of IPS-based screens."

Source: Acer Iconia Tab A700 Overview & Specs - Tablets - CNET Reviews
 

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I'm waiting on the 700 pad infinity

but to add to your comparison...

Acer.................vs........Asus
$450.................vs...........?
~11mm thick.....vs.......8.5mm thick
~666g weight.....vs.........586g

resolution = same = 1920 x 1200
 

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My main application is in the cockpit of a General Aviation airplane. So display brightness is VERY important to me for sunlight readability. Anyone know the claimed luminance of A700 in nits?
 

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First, I'll be shocked if the A700 doesn't have better battery life than the TF700. Certainly, the A510 has better battery life than the TF201, having a much larger battery. Until they're tested, we have no idea--certainly, we can't go by what either manufacturer is claiming in their spec sheets.

Second, I found the Super IPS+ panel on the TF201 to have wildly variable quality. I personally compared a whole slew of them side-by-side, and some screens had great color, good contrast, decent whites, and good text, while others had washed-out color, poor contrast, a dingy yellow tint, and terrible text. I ended up returning mine directly to ASUS because I got fed up with replacing defective units with ones that had horrible screens.

I do hope that ASUS has this sorted out, because the higher resolution will mean nothing if whites are yellowish, color is washed out, and contrast is bad. In fact, I hope ASUS fixes their quality control issues in general, because the Prime was a mess.

Third, the Tegra 3 in each of these will be pushing 2.25X the pixels of the current crop of 1280X800 10.1" tablets. So, having a 1.6GHz vs. a 1.3GHz processor could be huge for the TF700. There will still be a performance delta vs. current tablets in high-end games, but having a 20% faster processor will be important here.

Fourth, the Super IPS+ mode on the TF201 was definitely better in direct sunlight. It also, however, sucked down battery life like there's no tomorrow. I also found that things got quite toasty, meaning that it wasn't very practical to use for me, living in SoCal. Sure, I could read the screen, but it got so hot that I was afraid something was going to melt.

I'm going to give the Toshiba Excite 7.7 a try before settling on my "final" Android tablet (it's been something of an Odyssey for me so far). I'm thinking AMOLED might give the color and contrast I've been missing, and 196PPI is hopefully close enough to the TF700/A700's 224PPI that text will still be good (which should also generally be sharper with AMOLED). And, a 1.3GHz Tegra 3 should still be quite a bit faster at 1280X800 vs. 1920X1200.

If the Excite doesn't work out, then I'll probably cross my fingers, hold my breath, and give the TF700 a try. I'm wary given my experience with the TF700, but I'm also not necessarily thinking Acer is going to give a better experience.
 

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looks like Asus is the winner here

On a direct spec war maybe, but that doesn't mean a whole lot. I bought both an ASUS TF300 with keyboard and an Acer A510 and carried both for a week.

I kept the A510 and returned the Transformer.

On paper, the ASUS was better, but when carrying them both, I would pick up the ACER and leave the ASUS on the desk.

I bought an A700 too.
 

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I ordered the Acer A700 rather than waiting for TF700.

Reasons include:

TF700 not available yet

Need USB on tablet for tethering - TF700 requires keyboard attached to use USB - making it equivalent to Toshiba Z835/Z935 in weight class (bad screens though) and up to $650 in costs for 32GB version.

Got A700 for $425 - lower cost w/ micro-usb onboard for tethering. Many have reported ways to improve performance. Can add small bluetooth keyboard inexpensively - still not as good as TF700 keyboard of course.

TF700 definitely different performance level - better for gaming, but I am not focused on gaming. Full keyboard and extended power are big plus - still far cheaper than ultrabooks with much better screen, but a micro-usb on the tablet might have made a difference for me - option to use smaller portable bluetooth keyboard.
 

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USB rationale tossed out - tethering only works via bluetooth and wifi..

Lag on the A700 as mentioned by others is real - still have to see what can be done to improve it.
I believe TF700 will have gorilla glass - A700 does not.

But A700 was cheaper.. works reasonably..
 

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Disabling helps, but some apps once in a while will lag.
Probably an ics or launcher issue. Heat builds on games= but i dont use it for games much.
Screen is good bright enough. Bluetooth tethering is good. Bluetooth keyboard works at same time with data no issues.

I like the a700 a lot.. ics automatically disables software keyboard when BT one is paired.

Very good value...
 

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Can you specify the ways to improve performance that you are referring to, or provide a link or links? I've tried a few I've found by Googling (normal fonts, ring off) that haven't really done much.
 

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I have had an A700 since the day Amazon started shipping them. on the whole I liked it, but had concerns about the touch sensitivity and a few performance issues.

I bought a TF700 last week to see if it was better. The ASUS doesn't really feel faster, but has a better touch interface and an INCREDIBLE display. It looks like they've fixed the WiFi and GPS problems that plagued the Prime. But the tablet feels almost too thin for me to carry comfortably.

In the Acers favor, the screen may not be as bright, but the colors on the A700 screen look better and it feels more comfortable to carry.

I don't care about the ASUS keyboard dock. I would rather use a Bluetooth keyboard anyway. I own the one from Logitech.

But because of the touch screen issues, the ASUS was winning on points until the .029 update that Acer released yesterday. There have been some conflicting reports around the web, but for me it completely resolved the screen sensitivity issues and is a general step forward.

Today, I returned the ASUS TF700.
 

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The only thing I am concerned about is that the upcoming Asus Transformer Prime Infinity will 1.6GHz variant of the Tegra 3 (this model uses the 1.3GHz chip). I will receive mine tomorrow but wonder if it is worth waiting 3 weeks for the Infinity for $50 more, since I have heard that the 1080p resolution really stretches the Tegra 3, leading to overheating with intense use (games, I'm guessing).

The A700 looks nice but it does have a few issues though as mentioned in Acer Iconia Tab A700 Review, Specs, and Price
 

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The only thing I am concerned about is that the upcoming Asus Transformer Prime Infinity will 1.6GHz variant of the Tegra 3 (this model uses the 1.3GHz chip). I will receive mine tomorrow but wonder if it is worth waiting 3 weeks for the Infinity for $50 more, since I have heard that the 1080p resolution really stretches the Tegra 3, leading to overheating with intense use (games, I'm guessing).

The A700 looks nice but it does have a few issues though as mentioned in Acer Iconia Tab A700 Review, Specs, and Price

Actually there are no issues mentioned in that article. They only had one minor "con" which I don't agree with.

If you decide to wait for Asus you run the risk of the Asus trap that happens time after time with every single thing they release: announce early, deliver late, product shortage, fatal flaws, late updates.



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