Any benefit to wiping?

[xelhabb]

Factory reset is the way to go EVERY TIME.

Download RSD Lite and wipe away the problems. The phone always runs better after a factory reset and new OS install.

 

[adamjkok]

I upgraded to 2.2 from an un-rooted 2.1.. everything is fine.. just a few FC's and bugs.. would it be beneficial to do a complete wipe/reset and start fresh?

If you're on VZW, prepare to spend some quality time with CS... it's VZW policy that your phone is disabled after a wipe until you call #8899 (Account Investigations) and have your phone re-authenticated. Once you're connected, the call screener will disconnect and call you back on a landline than interrogate you as to why you wiped the phone and possibly harass you depending on your reason (in your case probably not)... the idea is that they wanna make you admit to a TOS violation if you've done anything... Than you'll get transferred a few times before they authenticate you...

Not everyone has had to do this but with my old Dare (bricked it twice) I always had to call and get harassed for being in special menus that "are reserved for Verizon technicians" and that "I shouldn't be playing with" (as in ##PROGRAM9700)...

Just wanted to throw that out there. Have a landline ready if you decide to go through with the wipe.

 

[ottscay]

I did a wipe today, no problems at all. It IS a little scary sitting there on the command screen waiting to see if it all goes well, but it returned to stock 2.2, and then I proceeded to spend a couple hours returning it to the way I want it. Which is now snappier than it was before. NFL app still FCs once in a while though.

 

[greydarrah]

I think there is some confusion. There is a difference between "wiping" (flash) and "resetting".
A reset just eliminates all your settings and really doesn't clean up all the stuff you want gone to make the phone run better.
Flashing, or "wiping", brings you back to stock 2.1 and the condition the phone was in when you took it out of the box. You must come online with Verizon and Google Sync.
Flashing is optimal before EVERY new OS install for so many reasons. If you don't flash the phone and install over all your settings, apps, patches, etc, you are begging for conflicts and problems with the phone.
Everyone with a smartphone should learn how to flash their unit back to stock and this would eliminate 90% of the issues with these phones.
Unfortunately, there is no instruction manual that will prepare you for this. The internet is your best friend. But once you take it little time to obtain the software and knowledge on how to use it - life in the smartphone world is wonderful.

While flashing is the ultimate way to go before an OS upgrade, I think it's unreasonable to expect even 5% of the phone owning population to have the technical understanding to do this. You're talking about a mass group of people that are incapable of remembering the simple task of rebooting their PC before calling someone for help because there printer wont print, or they can't get on the internet. I know it's not rocket science, but it goes well beyond the abilities of most users. If that level of cleansing is truly needed in an update, then the update itself needs to handle it...behind the scenes.

 

[xelhabb]

greydarrah,

you make a most compelling argument but....

The process does involve some self restorative aspects but the flaw is inherent in the OTA aspect of getting the new OS. What you must take into consideration is that a majority of the smartphone population does get the update without a problem. This is an amazing technological feat in my book.

But the whole notion of owning a smartphone that does all the wonderful things it does without it EVER burping or hickupping along the way is also somewhat naive.

Smartphone ownership, like car ownership, requires a bit of self education on the part of the owner. No piece of machinery is without its flaws. You either learn how to perform preventive maintenance / repair work OR you pay someone else to do it. Ownership implies you must obtain a modicum of knowledge about how your equipment works and needs to be serviced. Sometimes you get lucky and find someone to do the repair work free or for considerably less. But ALL equipment breaks at some point in time.

We all pay good money for these products and in that aspect, we should be able to expect stuff to run good most of the time. I think the DX does. But its a complicated device and learning how to keep it running well is incumbent of the owner IMO.

Semper Fidelis
Parris Island, First Battalion, B Company 1985
Methinks I should have gone to college first and went the O route...LOL

 

[wildman]

Im considering doing this... did ur X's run smoother or perform better?

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This usually resolves issues that user has experienced because the update does not remove the settings and apps that was originally intended to work on 2.1 and seems to not play well with the new 2.2 update.

While flashing is the ultimate way to go before an OS upgrade, I think it's unreasonable to expect even 5% of the phone owning population to have the technical understanding to do this. You're talking about a mass group of people that are incapable of remembering the simple task of rebooting their PC before calling someone for help because there printer wont print, or they can't get on the internet. I know it's not rocket science, but it goes well beyond the abilities of most users. If that level of cleansing is truly needed in an update, then the update itself needs to handle it...behind the scenes.

This is a suggestion to avoid issues when a user does this update and when this hasn't been done the user usually noticed a number of issues.. I understand that not everyone has the knowledge to understand how to complete some of these processes and this is why a number of users try to give detailed information to allow you to resolve any issues. If you do not feel comfortable you can always notify CS but they will walk you through a similar process but without the further knowledge that the users of the forum has to contribute.

@xelhandroid
You explanation was nicely presented also..

 

[Angelworks]

I did a hard reset - I still have to reboot the phone twice a day (I haven't installed any 3rd party apps yet) because it starts to slow down to a crawl...

I would add too as well - under 2.1 I had months of uptime with no issues.

 

[wildman]

I did a hard reset - I still have to reboot the phone twice a day (I haven't installed any 3rd party apps yet) because it starts to slow down to a crawl...

I would add too as well - under 2.1 I had months of uptime with no issues.

Three question...

1. Did you make sure to disable the auto restore feature because without doing this the errors that the system had before you hard rest will be placed back on device?

2. Did you try running phone for a little while without installing all your apps because not all apps are 2.2 compatible yet.

3. Have you gave a Task Killer a try?

I haven't had to restart my device or experienced any lockups so I would say it may be a app, just because it worked fine on 2.1 does not mean it will work the same way on 2.2..... Just something to think about.

 

[Angelworks]

How do you disable auto-restore? Maybe that is my issue.

 

[greydarrah]

greydarrah,

you make a most compelling argument but....

The process does involve some self restorative aspects but the flaw is inherent in the OTA aspect of getting the new OS. What you must take into consideration is that a majority of the smartphone population does get the update without a problem. This is an amazing technological feat in my book.

But the whole notion of owning a smartphone that does all the wonderful things it does without it EVER burping or hickupping along the way is also somewhat naive.

Smartphone ownership, like car ownership, requires a bit of self education on the part of the owner. No piece of machinery is without its flaws. You either learn how to perform preventive maintenance / repair work OR you pay someone else to do it. Ownership implies you must obtain a modicum of knowledge about how your equipment works and needs to be serviced. Sometimes you get lucky and find someone to do the repair work free or for considerably less. But ALL equipment breaks at some point in time.

We all pay good money for these products and in that aspect, we should be able to expect stuff to run good most of the time. I think the DX does. But its a complicated device and learning how to keep it running well is incumbent of the owner IMO.

Semper Fidelis
Parris Island, First Battalion, B Company 1985
Methinks I should have gone to college first and went the O route...LOL

You're completely correct that people should have a degree of understanding and skill that will support their phone running. I think that if we ever get to that level of collective brain power, the world will be a better place. While a flash is great, I think that a factory reset without restoring data will probably suffice for 99.9% of the people that have problems. Personally, I think most upgrade issues are tied back to data corruption during restoration...same as it was in the RIM world.

I, too, did time at Parris Island. What a lovely place . It was the summer of 1981, and I can't help but smile thinking about it. Some of the best people I know came off that island.

 

[wildman]

How do you disable auto-restore? Maybe that is my issue.

Follow these settings during restore to avoid issues being restored automatically.


1. Uncheck "Back up my data" under Settings/Privacy

2. Click Factory Data Reset/Reset Phone

3. After reset is complete only Active Phone but do not input Google Email information

4. Once phone is at homepage go back into Settings/Privacy and make sure the Automatic Restore option is unchecked, even if grayed out, activate "Back up my data" and quickly disable "Automatic Restore"

5. After being sure that the Automatic Restore option is off it will be safe to log into Google and Backup Assistance and you can continue installing preferred apps and custom settings.

This process will stop all applications and settings from restoring automatically and restoring original issues that usually resolve a number of issues.

Also Fabrian posted a post on this also at http://forum.androidcentral.com/mot...traight-my-droid-x-2-2-update.html#post365140

 

[Angelworks]

Ok I'll try that, but honestly - I'm an IT professional and even I think this is a tad bit scary - especially if I have to do this for every upgrade. My phone used to be a device that just worked without any problems.

I never had to do any of this when my N1 was upgraded to 2.2 - that worked like a top.

 

[Tsunami T2]

I ran into all kinds of issues myself after bragging about how great the upgrade was. Somekind of Adw launcher error page was locked on my screen, and I could'nt get around it. I pulled the battery then uninstalled launcher and re installed...working like a charm now.

 

[Angelworks]

So something that seems to help - and doesn't involve wiping the phone. I uninstalled every single app I had on there - phone seems a lot more fluid/fast.

I'm slowly going through and installing what I like to see what might have caused the issue. This approach seems a lot more sensible than wiping the phone and making sure it doesn't auto-restore everything .

 

[nox]

Benefit to wiping:
No poo-poo residue?
Lol jk