Bigger size battery?

[jiwon0522]

Why won't companies make bigger batteries for bigger phones? Strictly talking about their dimensions here. I'm looking at all those empty spaces on GS3 and GN and thinking they could make bigger/wider replaceable batteries, so that if there's extended batteries, they won't leave huge bulging back to phones.
Here's a comparison pic between optimus V and GNexus, and what i'm hoping for from future phones.
http://i.imgur.com/nj3AU.jpg
Both batteries are around 1.7x2.5 inches. I suspect GS3 is similar size.

Is there some sort of standardized size for phone batteries for the market? Got to do with interior phone design? etc?

 

[JHBThree]

Why won't companies make bigger batteries for bigger phones? Strictly talking about their dimensions here. I'm looking at all those empty spaces on GS3 and GN and thinking they could make bigger/wider replaceable batteries, so that if there's extended batteries, they won't leave huge bulging back to phones.
Here's a comparison pic between optimus V and GNexus, and what i'm hoping for from future phones.
http://i.imgur.com/nj3AU.jpg
Both batteries are around 1.7x2.5 inches. I suspect GS3 is similar size.

Is there some sort of standardized size for phone batteries for the market? Got to do with interior phone design? etc?

The nexus has more technology crammed into its frame. No space for anything bigger.

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[craZDude]

The nexus has more technology crammed into its frame. No space for anything bigger.

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It's true, this is pretty much what it comes down to. To include bigger batteries they would have to make the phones bigger (thicker) and heavier.

 

[Andrew Martonik]

The extra space there isn't wasted. There are actually more components in there that take up room, and it has a better screen, more RAM, better processor, and all higher end components. Not to mention that the GNex battery in your picture is 250mAh larger than the Optimus V's, but the V is still 13mm thick vs less than 9mm of the GNex.

If you want a larger battery, you're gonna have to give up the ability for it to be user-replaceable. Think of the Droid RAZR MAXX.

 

[DroidDavi]

At this point battery technology needs to advance. I think most manufacturers want to have thin phones. The good thing is the chips are becoming a lot better on battery .

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[Mobimop]

At this point battery technology needs to advance. I think most manufacturers want to have thin phones. The good thing is the chips are becoming a lot better on battery .

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Their working on it but it's much more complex than most think.

Battery tech improving as demand soars - Future of Tech on NBCNews.com

 

[JHBThree]

At this point battery technology needs to advance. I think most manufacturers want to have thin phones. The good thing is the chips are becoming a lot better on battery .

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It is advancing. Chemistry can only move so fast.

 

[DroidDavi]

It is advancing. Chemistry can only move so fast.

I know its advancing. Just not fast enough for most people. Some people don't want to compromise for thin opposed to battery size. My galaxy nexus last me all day just fine.

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[JHBThree]

I know its advancing. Just not fast enough for most people. Some people don't want to compromise for thin opposed to battery size. My galaxy nexus last me all day just fine.

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'Not fast enough' for people that know absolutely nothing about the chemistry behind these batteries. They don't have the slightest idea what they're talking about.

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[kgh00007]

Is anyone using the Mugen Power 2000mAhr extended battery? What are your thoughts on it? Is it worth it? Is it still working well after some time?

My battery was in the red after 8 hours in work with poor reception

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[AndroidBoricua]

Personally, I don't see why phones need to be so thin. At some point, thinner will definitely mean too fragile. I'd rather have my nexus be a bit thicker if it will allow the battery to be in the 2100 range. As is, my Nexus will not make it the whole day without needing a charge. I bought an extended battery and did not mind the extra bulk. It still fit in my pants pocket (jeans). I returned it because it didn't really add much in terms of up-time.

 

[dbareis]

It is advancing. Chemistry can only move so fast.

How about something different like a petrol engine

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[ryanr509]

Personally, I don't see why phones need to be so thin. At some point, thinner will definitely mean too fragile. I'd rather have my nexus be a bit thicker if it will allow the battery to be in the 2100 range. As is, my Nexus will not make it the whole day without needing a charge. I bought an extended battery and did not mind the extra bulk. It still fit in my pants pocket (jeans). I returned it because it didn't really add much in terms of up-time.

Ya I had the droid razr and to me that was on the brink, if not to thin. I'd much rather sacrifice thickness for a better battery. I mean what the RAZR Maxx is 2mm thicker and has twice the battery of the RAZR. That's a sacrifice I'd make in a heartbeat

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[SirGeorgeKillian]

It's true, this is pretty much what it comes down to. To include bigger batteries they would have to make the phones bigger (thicker) and heavier.

My Razor Maxx is pretty thin and can go up to 2 days on a single charge.....

I hate to say it, most of it comes down to price. If using a cheaper battery cost me even a dollar less, over the course of x, xxx, xxx units that is saving me that much more money. The ratio to how many more phones I would sell vs how much money I save by using cheaper batteries, cheaper components usually win.

And you can't say things like, if they would just make a good quality phone, everyone would buy it. Not true, otherwise the Maxx would be owned by almost everyone on verizon. Some people like Samsung or HTC more than Moto, and vice versa.

 

[DroidDavi]

'Not fast enough' for people that know absolutely nothing about the chemistry behind these batteries. They don't have the slightest idea what they're talking about.

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I agree but those people who know nothing make up alot more of the population then those of us that do. So the popular opinion is its not enough.


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[DroidDavi]

Personally, I don't see why phones need to be so thin. At some point, thinner will definitely mean too fragile. I'd rather have my nexus be a bit thicker if it will allow the battery to be in the 2100 range. As is, my Nexus will not make it the whole day without needing a charge. I bought an extended battery and did not mind the extra bulk. It still fit in my pants pocket (jeans). I returned it because it didn't really add much in terms of up-time.

In the age of skinny jeans and obesity thin is sexy. It plays to the mind of the consumer.

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[JHBThree]

I agree but those people who know nothing make up alot more of the population then those of us that do. So the popular opinion is its not enough.


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Who cares what they think? They don't know anything about what it takes to engineer a battery, so their opinion doesn't mean jack squat.

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[GQ50]

Will the Sprint or Verion Nexus Battery fit my GSM Nexus? And if not where can I find the 2100mah battery for the gsm?

 

[rob1261]

Just get the OEM Samsung extended battery for the nexus 2000 mha so worth it I regularly get about 15 hours on it with jellybean with about 3:30- 4:30 hours of screen on time. I actually got more out of it on ice cream sand which i guess all that buttery smoothness takes more battery power... but sooo worth it

 

[GQ50]

Just get the OEM Samsung extended battery for the nexus 2000 mha so worth it I regularly get about 15 hours on it with jellybean with about 3:30- 4:30 hours of screen on time. I actually got more out of it on ice cream sand which i guess all that buttery smoothness takes more battery power... but sooo worth it

Oh okay, who sells it? I checked here on Shopandroid but they only have the 1750mah and the fat boy 3500mah.