Camera improvements not included in latest update

[milehigherik]

I get the feeling Samsung is okay with their lackluster photo quality. It's the biggest crock of crap I've ever seen. They have what seems to be the best hardware. I remember for the s9 they said camera reimagined or redesigned. It was a big bunch of garbage. Dual aperture that really didn't do much at all. Facial smoothing has been an issue on the Galaxy series since it's inception. Why the heck would they fix it now? It's almost like they like their smoothed over images. It's really interesting because when the front-facing camera on a Samsung does not recognize your face as a face it makes pretty good detail in the photo. However as soon as it recognizes your face as being a face it smooths the hell out of it making a mess of the photo. If you wanted to take a picture of a pimple on your face or an ingrown hair with the front-facing camera you would not be able to do so on a Samsung device because it will smooth the heck out of your photo...same with the rear facing camera on a Samsung as soon as it recognizes a face it messes up the photo making you look like an oil painting. That's not art Samsung. My face is art give it to me as I see it in the mirror. Not as you want to see my face.wtf

 

[milehigherik]

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However Samsung has already vowed if they have an update coming for the facial smoothing. Which has been in the works since the Galaxy s8 series. So hang tight right around the corner.. It's a perpetual work in motion.

Kind of like the major highway in every town. Always under construction, but it's never fixed.

 

[Peter Scooze]

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I get the feeling Samsung is okay with their lackluster photo quality. It's the biggest crock of crap I've ever seen. They have what seems to be the best hardware. I remember for the s9 they said camera reimagined or redesigned. It was a big bunch of garbage. Dual aperture that really didn't do much at all. Facial smoothing has been an issue on the Galaxy series since it's inception. Why the heck would they fix it now? It's almost like they like their smoothed over images. It's really interesting because when the front-facing camera on a Samsung does not recognize your face as a face it makes pretty good detail in the photo. However as soon as it recognizes your face as being a face it smooths the hell out of it making a mess of the photo. If you wanted to take a picture of a pimple on your face or an ingrown hair with the front-facing camera you would not be able to do so on a Samsung device because it will smooth the heck out of your photo...same with the rear facing camera on a Samsung as soon as it recognizes a face it messes up the photo making you look like an oil painting. That's not art Samsung. My face is art give it to me as I see it in the mirror. Not as you want to see my face.wtf

I don't think that was a camera update just the March security patch. Supposedly there is another update coming. If it actually fixes anything who knows. Autofocus needs fixing fast though among the things u also laid out

 

[mjs2011]

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Yep that wasn't the update

 

[EMGSM]

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I get the feeling Samsung is okay with their lackluster photo quality. It's the biggest crock of crap I've ever seen. They have what seems to be the best hardware. I remember for the s9 they said camera reimagined or redesigned. It was a big bunch of garbage. Dual aperture that really didn't do much at all. Facial smoothing has been an issue on the Galaxy series since it's inception. Why the heck would they fix it now? It's almost like they like their smoothed over images. It's really interesting because when the front-facing camera on a Samsung does not recognize your face as a face it makes pretty good detail in the photo. However as soon as it recognizes your face as being a face it smooths the hell out of it making a mess of the photo. If you wanted to take a picture of a pimple on your face or an ingrown hair with the front-facing camera you would not be able to do so on a Samsung device because it will smooth the heck out of your photo...same with the rear facing camera on a Samsung as soon as it recognizes a face it messes up the photo making you look like an oil painting. That's not art Samsung. My face is art give it to me as I see it in the mirror. Not as you want to see my face.wtf

I'm with you on this one. I cant stand all the smoothing. I've complained about it for a while. I want to see the detail. Even if you turn the option to smooth skin off, it still does it. I hate that.

 

[buzzy3970]

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Who in the U.S has recieved the camera update though?

 

[Peter Scooze]

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Who in the U.S has recieved the camera update though?

Don't think anyone has only Korea

 

[ThrottleJohnny]

Who in the U.S has recieved the camera update though?

There was no camera update. Supposedly it was just the March security update.

I'm in no hurry to get a new phone. I'm just sitting back watching all the early adopters complain.

I'll wait until Samsung addresses the issues with a firmware update, like Google did with the Pixel 4. They have about a month or so. If I hear there was an update to fix early issues, I'll jump.

Otherwise, One Plus will get my money.

 

[Nostromo79]

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Don't think anyone has only Korea

Where their complexions are already impeccable. How is that a real test? ;-)

 

[dov1978]

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The skin smoothening thing is a real bug bear of mine too even if I really could be doing with it personally. If I turn off beauty mode in a camera app I expect it to actually be fully off. That's why I gave up on Huawei phones too. Their cameras are outstanding but this Asian thing with purposely adding skin smoothening kills me. I found the Pixel 3 xl camera overhyped and thought it was pretty average but when it came to taking photos of people with front OR back camera it was miles closer to reality.

 

[DanielLoreti]

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Some some pics on twitter from a Korean account with the update. Looks really good.

 

[buzzy3970]

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Where their complexions are already impeccable. How is that a real test? ;-)

 

[milehigherik]

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This is the first time that the face smoothing has been brought up in the mainstream regarding Samsung devices. I doubt they'll address that because as someone else mentioned in a different post that is a totally different photo algorithm to process photos much differently. Samsung has the hardware to make photos beautiful but they choose to smooth them instead of make them more detailed when it comes to selfies and faces.. also the focus being big issue for some. That will I certainly be corrected. The face smoothing though I'm not so certain if they will ever address that. It seems like they like that look.

 

[buzzy3970]

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The complaints are mostly on this forum. Checked reddit and most are enjoying their phones. See a lot complaints about the camera update when they haven't even recieved it lol. Like so many are quick to bash without all the factual info. Just can't wait to recieve mine so I can make my own judgement free of others opinion.

There was no camera update. Supposedly it was just the March security update.

I'm in no hurry to get a new phone. I'm just sitting back watching all the early adopters complain.

I'll wait until Samsung addresses the issues with a firmware update, like Google did with the Pixel 4. They have about a month or so. If I hear there was an update to fix early issues, I'll jump.

Otherwise, One Plus will get my money.

 

[buzzy3970]

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I think if it becomes a huge issue among the masses they will(remember them taking away the ad card)? I just don't know if the masses care. Most complaints are from tech enthusiast and tech reviews. I'm sure they are looking at reviews and taking notes.

This is the first time that the face smoothing has been brought up in the mainstream regarding Samsung devices. I doubt they'll address that because as someone else mentioned in a different post that is a totally different photo algorithm to process photos much differently. Samsung has the hardware to make photos beautiful but they choose to smooth them instead of make them more detailed when it comes to selfies and faces.. also the focus being big issue for some. That will I certainly be corrected. The face smoothing though I'm not so certain if they will ever address that. It seems like they like that look.

 

[ThrottleJohnny]

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The complaints are mostly on this forum. Checked reddit and most are enjoying their phones. See a lot complaints about the camera update when they haven't even recieved it lol. Like so many are quick to bash without all the factual info. Just can't wait to recieve mine so I can make my own judgement free of others opinion.

It feels like the same 4 or 5 people commenting on the phone. It feels like very few people pre ordered this year as there is very little early response.

It must be the price keeping people away.

 

[buzzy3970]

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Yea price plays a factor and also note honestly being a huge upgrade over the S10 series and especially the Note 10 series and I think Samsung knows that and hasn't decreased the S10 series too drastically. I wouldn't have upgraded at the 1,400 retail price as I'm content with my Note 10+, but with the trade in promos and pre order incentives it's enough for me to trade in my S10+ that goes unused.

It feels like the same 4 or 5 people commenting on the phone. It feels like very few people pre ordered this year as there is very little early response.

It must be the price keeping people away.

 

[Emig5m]

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My main complaint is that when filming it looks like it's using a low bit rate! The video isn't as clean as my S10 and looks more like a entry level phone! It also looks like 15fps, very jittery and studdery. I just received the March 1 update, don't know if that will help or not but there's no way I can except potato phone video recording quality!

 

[milehigherik]

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This is the first time that the face smoothing has been brought up in the mainstream regarding Samsung devices. I doubt they'll address that because as someone else mentioned in a different post that is a totally different photo algorithm to process photos much differently. Samsung has the hardware to make photos beautiful but they choose to smooth them instead of make them more detailed when it comes to selfies and faces.. also the focus being big issue for some. That will I certainly be corrected. The face smoothing though I'm not so certain if they will ever address that. It seems like they like that look.

not the best looking dude but here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. one of these was taken with the Samsung s 20 ultra factory camera and the one with a warmer tone is taken with the gcam mod installed... Clearly no facial smoothing. I earned every one of those wrinkles let me see em...

 

[buzzy3970]

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Wow 15fps. That's disappointing if true. Hopefully just software related and not hardware.

My main complaint is that when filming it looks like it's using a low bit rate! The video isn't as clean as my S10 and looks more like a entry level phone! It also looks like 15fps, very jittery and studdery. I just received the March 1 update, don't know if that will help or not but there's no way I can except potato phone video recording quality!