Correct me if I'm wrong but is this what HTC want evo owners to pay for?

[delta7]

Evo 4G LTE Teardown (Evo One X) - YouTube

seems pretty simple to me.

 

[usguyver]

Evo 4G LTE Teardown (Evo One X) - YouTube

seems pretty simple to me.

What are you talking about exactly I have an evo and it works great.

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[delta7]

Changing the battery

 

[kronosqq]

Talking about paying for battery replacement if it dies? Maybe? More specific please.

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[Topgonzo]

Why do you ever need to do this? You don't need to change the battery..

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[Mikey47]

Why do you ever need to do this? You don't need to change the battery..

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Overtime batteries lose their ability to hold as much charge as they did when they were fresh.

I think the OP is just referring to the people who have said you have to send your phone in to have a new battery put in if your original is not holding as much as it could, or if the battery goes bad. It really is pretty simple.

I think the OP could have been more clear, but I think that is what he's getting at.

 

[The Hustleman]

Why do you ever need to do this? You don't need to change the battery..

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Do you really have to ask?

1. Batteries (ESPECIALLY HTC batteries) lose charge capacity over time. If it's stuck in the phone you have to send it in and they don't send you the same phone they send you a refurbished phone (good friend has the problem with her droid DNA battery going out and was upset she couldn't change it). They didn't send her the same phone.

2. On long days a user shouldn't have to lug a charger around. Just grab a spare battery out your back pocket, car, wallet, or purse, change it, and keep it moving. Really makes for a better user experience rather than sitting around tethered to a charger. Until we can get a battery that can withstand 24 hours of heavy use, this will keep happening. Not even the RAZR MAXX can do 24 hours of heavy use (I've tried!)

3. It eliminates the need for charging cases like mophie. A product that just shouldn't be needed. Now you have a bulky case without the style or level of protection that you need just for extra battery life that any decent manufacturer would let you just swap it out.


4. There's no logical reason to NOT have a battery that's removable. It shows this whole "form over function" mindset, who cares how it looks? How it works is what's really important. Plus a lot of good looking phones have had removable batteries.

Remember the galaxy Nexus? Bad battery life but you can get extended life batteries to compensate bit then they dropped the nexus 4 with no removable battery and same problem. Only now you have no options. At least we had cheap chinese batteries before!


Just a bad concept and no one can show me a good part

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[Mikey47]

Do you really have to ask?

SNIP

Just ignore Hustler and he'll crawl back to his sg3 forum (hopefully).

 

[BigDinCA]

Do you really have to ask?

1. Batteries (ESPECIALLY HTC batteries) lose charge capacity over time. If it's stuck in the phone you have to send it in and they don't send you the same phone they send you a refurbished phone (good friend has the problem with her droid DNA battery going out and was upset she couldn't change it). They didn't send her the same phone.

2. On long days a user shouldn't have to lug a charger around. Just grab a spare battery out your back pocket, car, wallet, or purse, change it, and keep it moving. Really makes for a better user experience rather than sitting around tethered to a charger. Until we can get a battery that can withstand 24 hours of heavy use, this will keep happening. Not even the RAZR MAXX can do 24 hours of heavy use (I've tried!)

3. It eliminates the need for charging cases like mophie. A product that just shouldn't be needed. Now you have a bulky case without the style or level of protection that you need just for extra battery life that any decent manufacturer would let you just swap it out.


4. There's no logical reason to NOT have a battery that's removable. It shows this whole "form over function" mindset, who cares how it looks? How it works is what's really important. Plus a lot of good looking phones have had removable batteries.

Remember the galaxy Nexus? Bad battery life but you can get extended life batteries to compensate bit then they dropped the nexus 4 with no removable battery and same problem. Only now you have no options. At least we had cheap chinese batteries before!


Just a bad concept and no one can show me a good part

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1. All batteries lose capacity to charge over time. Li-Ion and Li-Po take an exceptionally long period of time for that to happen, but it does happen over thousands of charging cycles. I'm not sure why you say HTC batteries ESPECIALLY. They don't make their own batteries. Most OEMs don't. Samsung does and so does Sony. They even sell them to other OEMs like HTC. I've had HTC phones long before Android and battery life was comparable to anything else out there. It has been for me, anyway. And I am a pretty heavy user.

2. Everyone's situation is different, but I can't recall a charger weighing more than a few ounces. If you're in your car, why wouldn't you just charge it? Sure seems simpler than turning it off, removing a flimsy plastic back cover, replace, reboot, wait.... then use. I'm not saying having a spare isn't a smart idea. It is, if your phone has a removable battery. If it doesn't, then I don't see charging it up here and there as being a burden. What else are you doing with it at your desk or in your car that wouldn't allow it to charge?

3. I'll remember this "decent manufacturer" thing when Samsung starts adding non-removable batteries. But having a charging case is fine for some. An external battery pack is great too. There are always options. They aren't always cheap, but it isn't as if the OEM replacements are dirt cheap. They aren't. Because if you really want to ensure quality you go with the OEM battery, not a 3rd party. There are tons of articles all over that detail 3rd party battery performance as being lackluster, at best.

4. There are plenty of logical reasons. It's cheaper to not have to build a battery with contacts and a hard case to eliminate damage or personal injury during handling. You can get the same capacity on an internal battery using a smaller footprint than a removable one. You can use the same size footprint and deliver a higher capacity. You can take advantage of smaller spaces inside the device and shape the internal battery however it needs to be to fit inside. You can make the device lighter and thinner. If you ever need to replace it, you can do it yourself if you're technically inclined, even a little bit.

An internal battery isn't going to suit everyone and I get that. This is my first device with one and I was a little gun-shy at first, but I have been pleasantly surprised. Certainly there is nothing out there that will suit you. I have friends that use the RAZR MAXX and love it, getting as couple days at a time without issue. My brother swears by his, getting at least 24 hours regularly. And he spends hours at time searching for service because he works out in remote locations a lot. You want to talk about battery killers? THAT is number 1, even more than screen-on time. But all of these blanket statements defeat the point of Android: choice and options. Battery technology isn't catching up to these devices in a timely manner, but processor and screen tech is getting better so the battery becomes less and less of a concern for me. My concern is still lack of a microSD slot on newer devices. It isn't about the storage capacity, it's about the immediate portability of my personal stuff. But that's just me. Some people don't like it because of the storage capacity, and some people could care less. Gotta' love Android!

 

[Mikey47]

Just ignore Hustler and he'll crawl back to his sg3 forum (hopefully).

1. All batteries lose capacity to charge over time. Li-Ion and Li-Po take an exceptionally long period of time for that to happen, but it does happen over thousands of charging cycles. I'm not sure why you say HTC batteries ESPECIALLY. They don't make their own batteries. Most OEMs don't. Samsung does and so does Sony. They even sell them to other OEMs like HTC. I've had HTC phones long before Android and battery life was comparable to anything else out there. It has been for me, anyway. And I am a pretty heavy user.

2. Everyone's situation is different, but I can't recall a charger weighing more than a few ounces. If you're in your car, why wouldn't you just charge it? Sure seems simpler than turning it off, removing a flimsy plastic back cover, replace, reboot, wait.... then use. I'm not saying having a spare isn't a smart idea. It is, if your phone has a removable battery. If it doesn't, then I don't see charging it up here and there as being a burden. What else are you doing with it at your desk or in your car that wouldn't allow it to charge?

3. I'll remember this "decent manufacturer" thing when Samsung starts adding non-removable batteries. But having a charging case is fine for some. An external battery pack is great too. There are always options. They aren't always cheap, but it isn't as if the OEM replacements are dirt cheap. They aren't. Because if you really want to ensure quality you go with the OEM battery, not a 3rd party. There are tons of articles all over that detail 3rd party battery performance as being lackluster, at best.

4. There are plenty of logical reasons. It's cheaper to not have to build a battery with contacts and a hard case to eliminate damage or personal injury during handling. You can get the same capacity on an internal battery using a smaller footprint than a removable one. You can use the same size footprint and deliver a higher capacity. You can take advantage of smaller spaces inside the device and shape the internal battery however it needs to be to fit inside. You can make the device lighter and thinner. If you ever need to replace it, you can do it yourself if you're technically inclined, even a little bit.

An internal battery isn't going to suit everyone and I get that. This is my first device with one and I was a little gun-shy at first, but I have been pleasantly surprised. Certainly there is nothing out there that will suit you. I have friends that use the RAZR MAXX and love it, getting as couple days at a time without issue. My brother swears by his, getting at least 24 hours regularly. And he spends hours at time searching for service because he works out in remote locations a lot. You want to talk about battery killers? THAT is number 1, even more than screen-on time. But all of these blanket statements defeat the point of Android: choice and options. Battery technology isn't catching up to these devices in a timely manner, but processor and screen tech is getting better so the battery becomes less and less of a concern for me. My concern is still lack of a microSD slot on newer devices. It isn't about the storage capacity, it's about the immediate portability of my personal stuff. But that's just me. Some people don't like it because of the storage capacity, and some people could care less. Gotta' love Android!

No offense BigDinCA, but in think my response was more succinct and applicable.

You made awesome points, but you will never convince him.

 

[crxssi]

Do you really have to ask?

1. Batteries (ESPECIALLY HTC batteries) lose charge capacity over time.

Are you daft or just trolling? HTC's batteries are no more prone to lose capacity over time than Samsung's or anyone else's.

Changing the batteries in the Evo LTE is easy and takes about 5 minutes. It is no big whoop and not expensive. HOWEVER- that will NOT BE THE CASE with the HTC One, because they put the battery between the screen and the main board...

2. On long days a user shouldn't have to lug a charger around. Just grab a spare battery out your back pocket, car, wallet, or purse, change it, and keep it moving.

Or just grab your precharged external battery. And they cost only $35. And have double the capacity of an internal battery. And work with more than just one phone. I have one and have NEVER needed to use it with the Evo LTE. The internal battery is just that good.

4. There's no logical reason to NOT have a battery that's removable.

Well, I guess you really ARE daft. There are many well-known advantages to a sealed battery.... How about: can make the battery bigger/better use of space, can seal the phone better from the elements, can make the case stronger, can make the phone thinner. That is not to say ALL those will be done on any particular model, but they are clear possible advantages of a sealed phone.

 

[bigtank]

Do iOS, Windows Phone or BB users complain so much about battery life. In my experience I only seen it to this extent with Android owners. Why is that? Could it be our beloved OS isnt as efficient as it could be? If so why is this never the direction these rants go. Why is it always on the manufacturers(why doesnt X phone have a 5000mah battery)? just wondering

 

[kronosqq]

Do iOS, Windows Phone or BB users complain so much about battery life. In my experience I only seen it to this extent with Android owners. Why is that? Could it be our beloved OS isnt as efficient as it could be? If so why is this never the direction these rants go. Why is it always on the manufacturers(why doesnt X phone have a 5000mah battery)? just wondering

I don't know about WP and BB, after all they're less heard due to the smaller market share, but iPhone users most definitely do complain about battery life as well. That's something like the second most requested thing (better battery life) from iPhone users.

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[So Cold]

I don't know about WP and BB, after all they're less heard due to the smaller market share, but iPhone users most definitely do complain about battery life as well. That's something like the second most requested thing (better battery life) from iPhone users.

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+1 Everyone is always after better battery life, they even make a battery case for the note 2 to get it up to 6400 mAh (crazy!). And I can't say anything personally about WP but all the others always have complaints