Energizer PowerMax P18K Pop 18,000 mAh

[datum9]

Where is the Energizer sub-forum?

This deserves discussion. I am fed up with poor battery life. I want 2-day runtime.

I will definitely buy this device.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...ower-max-p18k-pop-huge-battery-phone-mwc-2019

 

[belodion]

Oh yes, that. It is indeed interesting. If there is enough interest among members, a subforum may be created.
I’ve read your other thread about the device:
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sh...tral.com/showthread.php?t=944898&share_type=t Other members can post about it in that thread, or in the present one. For the time being, you are the Energiser subforum.

 

[Almeuit]

Where is the Energizer sub-forum?

This deserves discussion. I am fed up with poor battery life. I want 2-day runtime.

I will definitely buy this device.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...ower-max-p18k-pop-huge-battery-phone-mwc-2019

I don't think a forum has been made yet since it isn't going to be out for a few months.

As for buying it -- no go for me. I see no real world use for me to have 2 day runtime.

 

[eshropshire]

I don't think a forum has been made yet since it isn't going to be out for a few months.

As for buying it -- no go for me. I see no real world use for me to have 2 day runtime.

For less weight get a big battery and use it when you phone runs low. Much more convenient. When I travel for 30+ hours going to India I have a small battery that fits in my shirt pocket with my Note 8 and delivers over 2 full charges.

My sister works in refugee camps and power can be very limited at times. She carries several high power battery packs that can get her through over a week if necessary. When she gets power she recharges the packs. She has never run out of power before she gets some power.

I guess there is a small specialized market for a massively chunky phone that will always be massive. Seems like a big battery cases would be a better solution so your phone is only big when you need a very long battery life.

 

[tpjoynt]

I agree, I think battery packs are the way to go. When you're using the phone you can actually hold it, and charge it when you're not using it. I wonder how many people will actually buy this / if there's some special market for it I'm not aware of.

 

[anon(10181084)]

The biggest advantage to a big battery in a phone is that you need to charge it less, which automatically means more years of lifespan

 

[tpjoynt]

yeah I guess you'd go through less charge / discharge cycles. Maybe that's why my pixel battery is so bad now

 

[mohit9206]

Would prefer a slimmer 6000mah version.

 

[belodion]

I've suddenly realised something: since the phone is so thick - 18mm I believe - they could have fitted a camera with a MUCH longer focal-length lens than normal phones, and a correspondingly MUCH larger sensor. Think of the image quality!

Of course, they may have DONE precisely that.

Edit: I've checked the specs, which describe three rear cameras, 12mp, 5mp, and 2mp, but with no indication of focal length and sensor size.

 

[eshropshire]

yeah I guess you'd go through less charge / discharge cycles. Maybe that's why my pixel battery is so bad now

Why not have the battery replaced?

 

[Mooncatt]

Now when I'm having trouble going to sleep and laying on my back playing with the phone and I drop it, it'll knock me out cold and no more insomnia. Awesome!

 

[anon(10181084)]

I've suddenly realised something: since the phone is so thick - 18mm I believe - they could have fitted a camera with a MUCH longer focal-length lens than normal phones, and a correspondingly MUCH larger sensor. Think of the image quality!

Of course, they may have DONE precisely that.

Edit: I've checked the specs, which describe three rear cameras, 12mp, 5mp, and 2mp, but with no indication of focal length and sensor size.

Doubt it. I heard this is some sort of rebranded Elephone phone with a thicker case and bigger battery. It is even missing a headphone jack like the said Elephone device...

 

[belodion]

^ You could well be right. I've researched, and found that there are Elephone devices with three rear cameras and a pop-up double front camera.

 

[Almeuit]

The biggest advantage to a big battery in a phone is that you need to charge it less, which automatically means more years of lifespan

I never keep a phone 2 years so that point doesn't help me at all.

 

[anon(10181084)]

I never keep a phone 2 years so that point doesn't help me at all.

But it helps other people, like me.

 

[datum9]

I never keep a phone 2 years so that point doesn't help me at all.

Battery capacity does not suddenly drop of, it begins before the device is even used. Li-ion batteries decline in capacity even if not used.

I care about capacity, never want to run out of power and risk downtime at a critical point. Not everyone replaces their phone annually, some people like myself, sometimes keep their phones for 2 years and beyond if the device is really nice (Samsung Note 4, LG V20). This is a prime candidate for 2+ year use.

After 2 years, it will decline in capacity, probably from 18K to 16K mAh.

 

[datum9]

I've suddenly realised something: since the phone is so thick - 18mm I believe - they could have fitted a camera with a MUCH longer focal-length lens than normal phones, and a correspondingly MUCH larger sensor. Think of the image quality!

Of course, they may have DONE precisely that.

Edit: I've checked the specs, which describe three rear cameras, 12mp, 5mp, and 2mp, but with no indication of focal length and sensor size.

Interesting point.

My question at this point, will a Verizon version be released?

 

[Almeuit]

Battery capacity does not suddenly drop of, it begins before the device is even used. Li-ion batteries decline in capacity even if not used.

I care about capacity, never want to run out of power and risk downtime at a critical point. Not everyone replaces their phone annually, some people like myself, sometimes keep their phones for 2 years and beyond if the device is really nice (Samsung Note 4, LG V20). This is a prime candidate for 2+ year use.

After 2 years, it will decline in capacity, probably from 18K to 16K mAh.

And that is such a tiny decline that it makes it not even a concern for me.

 

[datum9]

And that is such a tiny decline that it makes it not even a concern for me.

Correct. An inevitable decline in capacity from 18K to 16Mah is tolerable, since you still have a ton of mAh capacity, namely 16,000 mAh.

however, 'normal' phones with relatively tiny capacity between 3000-4000mAh take a huge hit even after a year. I've had my Samsung S8+ for about 1.5 years and I already noticed a major reduction in runtime in the stock battery. It doesn't hold as much charge, because after X number of charges, the battery will inevitably lose capacity. 20% reduction from a 3500mAh cell means you end up with 2700mAh, 20% off 18,000 mAh means you end up with 14400 mAh.

Li-on batteries are not an infinite resource, they can only be charged X number of times before they lose capacity. A device with 1500 charges on it just won't have the same capacity as new and it wasn't very high when it was new to begin with.

 

[Almeuit]

Correct. An inevitable decline in capacity from 18K to 16Mah is tolerable, since you still have a ton of mAh capacity, namely 16,000 mAh.

however, 'normal' phones with relatively tiny capacity between 3000-4000mAh take a huge hit even after a year. I've had my Samsung S8+ for about 1.5 years and I already noticed a major reduction in runtime in the stock battery. It doesn't hold as much charge, because after X number of charges, the battery will inevitably lose capacity. 20% reduction from a 3500mAh cell means you end up with 2700mAh, 20% off 18,000 mAh means you end up with 14400 mAh.

Li-on batteries are not an infinite resource, they can only be charged X number of times before they lose capacity. A device with 1500 charges on it just won't have the same capacity as new and it wasn't very high when it was new to begin with.

Yeah but as I said i don't keep a phone more then a year so the decline to me is eh. Even if I do decide to go I will never go over the 2 year mark for sure.