evleaks: Verizon will carry the two Pixel phones

[Ry]

https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/761435995627663360

 

[Ry]

Re: evleaks: Verizon will carry the two Nexus devices

"Nexus" in quotation marks is likely a dig at "Galaxy Nexus isn't a real Nexus" (which is still silly, a what ever Google calls a Nexus is a Nexus).

 

[effreyj]

Re: evleaks: Verizon will carry the two Nexus phones

Man I hope that there's also an unlocked version that still works on Verizon. Also, I'm guessing the prices of the nexus phones will be a lot higher than last year and be similar to the prices of the Moto Z Droid phones...

 

[deesugar]

Re: evleaks: Verizon will carry the two Nexus phones

Since Verizon doesn't offer any discounts when you upgrade phones, what would be the benefit of buying a Verizon branded Nexus that would be full price and locked?!?

If they're saying that only Verizon locked Nexus phones will work on their network then that changes what a Nexus phone is and change peoples options on Fi if they want to change carriers.

 

[Unobtanium]

Re: evleaks: Verizon will carry the two Nexus phones

Man I hope that there's also an unlocked version that still works on Verizon. ...

Exactly this. I have been pleased with my Moto X PE, the near stock experience, and the absolute lack of carrier bloatware. If Moto were better about security updates, and the XPE had a bigger battery, I probably wouldn't look at buying Nexus this year. If Moto was supporting updates and the G4+ had NFC, I'd probably have one of those.

 

[deesugar]

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I guess I don't understand why they would sell both unless Verizon thinks their customers are too stupid to know how to buy a Nexus phone and by making it easier selling them at their stores they can lock the customers on their network? That would be the only rational for selling both. Also lots of ugly Verizon branding on phone and bloatware. They'll be called "Vexus" phones, updates will go through Verizon not Google which means they'll never get updated

 

[Ry]

Re: evleaks: Verizon will carry the two Nexus phones

Since Verizon doesn't offer any discounts when you upgrade phones, what would be the benefit of buying a Verizon branded Nexus that would be full price and locked?!?

If they're saying that only Verizon locked Nexus phones will work on their network then that changes what a Nexus phone is and change peoples options on Fi if they want to change carriers.

Verizon phones aren't locked.

Some advantages:
- you can actually go to a physical store and buy one.
- you can just put the phone payments on your Verizon bill.

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[jhimmel]

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Verizon phones aren't locked.

Some advantages:
- you can actually go to a physical store and buy one.
- you can just put the phone payments on your Verizon bill.

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And VZW specific features should be hassle free - such as WiFi calling and Verizon Visual Voice Mail. Some people have gotten their non-Verizon unlocked (band compatible) handsets to work with these features, but it seems many were not able to.

However, to me, the big draw of Nexus handsets is always getting the latest OS. For sure this will be ruined by Verizon unless they get a special agreement (Like Apple does).

 

[Old Stoneface]

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And VZW specific features should be hassle free - such as WiFi calling and Verizon Visual Voice Mail. Some people have gotten their non-Verizon unlocked (band compatible) handsets to work with these features, but it seems many were not able to.

Those things should be hassle-free, anyway. And they would be if VZW wasn't trying to coerce people into buying their bloatware-ridden, VZW-branded devices, instead. They're still trying to play the lock-in game.

I've been pleased with VZW as a Corporate wireless provider, at work, but I'd be disinclined to use them, personally, even if they were as economical, and offered as many benefits, as TMO. Their heritage is "The Phone Company" and it shows. They're being dragged, kicking and screaming all the way, into the 21st century and they're resisting it at every turn.

 

[Ry]

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Those things should be hassle-free, anyway. And they would be if VZW wasn't trying to coerce people into buying their bloatware-ridden, VZW-branded devices, instead. They're still trying to play the lock-in game.

I've been pleased with VZW as a Corporate wireless provider, at work, but I'd be disinclined to use them, personally, even if they were as economical, and offered as many benefits, as TMO. Their heritage is "The Phone Company" and it shows. They're being dragged, kicking and screaming all the way, into the 21st century and they're resisting it at every turn.

There's valid reasons that all carriers are like that, no matter how good the marketing hype may sway opinion.

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[anon(9072051)]

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Verizon thinks their customers are too stupid to know how to buy a Nexus phone and by making it easier selling them at their stores they can lock the customers on their network?

That actually harkens back to the meh old days when someone at the phone company simply handed you the rotary phone (maybe 2 or 3 colors and 2 or 3 styles to choose from based on availability) assigned to you when you opened an account. I imagine a lot of people have had that sort of anachronistic relationship to a carrier handed down to them by default, and the carriers themselves have got to think fondly of those days of total trickledown control. So, yeah, Verizon probably does kindasorta think like that.

Still, I like that "Vexus" idea. Especially if they just "scratch out" the N and gouge in a bigass V!

 

[npaladin-2000]

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There's valid reasons that all carriers are like that, no matter how good the marketing hype may sway opinion.

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THey're valid as far as the carrier goes, but the reasons are not necessarily consumer-friendly, and the consumers are finally starting to realize it.

Unfortunately, that whole Band 13 rule kinda backfired a bit. Yeah, Verizon has to sell their phones unlocked because of it, but guess what? They don't have to support Band 12, just Band 13, which makes their phones undesirable on other people's networks at best anyway. So since no one else uses Band 13, there's an element of lock-in anyway. Oops.

 

[Old Stoneface]

Re: evleaks: Verizon will carry the two Nexus phones

There's valid reasons that all carriers are like that, ...

"Valid" from whose perspective?

 

[Ry]

Re: evleaks: Verizon will carry the two Nexus phones

THey're valid as far as the carrier goes, but the reasons are not necessarily consumer-friendly, and the consumers are finally starting to realize it.

Unfortunately, that whole Band 13 rule kinda backfired a bit. Yeah, Verizon has to sell their phones unlocked because of it, but guess what? They don't have to support Band 12, just Band 13, which makes their phones undesirable on other people's networks at best anyway. So since no one else uses Band 13, there's an element of lock-in anyway. Oops.

And if you want Band 12 on another carrier, you'll have to go through what appears to be a tedious and cost-prohibitive VoLTE certification process.

 

[Ry]

Re: evleaks: Verizon will carry the two Nexus phones

"Valid" from whose perspective?

Until all carriers become dumb pipes, they're all just old phone companies being dragged, kicking and screaming all the way, into the 21st century.

 

[npaladin-2000]

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And if you want Band 12 on another carrier, you'll have to go through what appears to be a tedious and cost-prohibitive VoLTE certification process.

Only on T-Mobile. AFAIK AT&T doesn't require it, and they also use Band 12 (formerly 17). And no, I'm not sure why T-Mo is requiring it, though it's probably because they don't have any HSPA-850 coverage to fall back on. But eventually they're gonna have to lay off.

 

[myhui]

Re: evleaks: Verizon will carry the two Nexus phones

What about Project Fi phones then? Will they work on bands 12 and 13?

I'm referring to getting either Nexus 2016 phones via a Project Fi new subscription.

Will they support voice over WiFi and voice over LTE for all carriers that Project Fi uses?

World wide?

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[Ry]

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..what if the new Google-sold Nexus phones don't support Verizon and Sprint like the Nexus 6, 5X, and 6P? That could be a reason for this Verizon variant.

 

[Aquila]

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..what if the new Google-sold Nexus phones don't support Verizon and Sprint like the Nexus 6, 5X, and 6P? That could be a reason for this Verizon variant.

And that would SUCK but ... I think it might be enough for me to not buy it; not sure. Depends on whether or not it could be software converted like the old GPE phones and somehow still work on Verizon.

 

[Unobtanium]

Re: evleaks: Verizon will carry the two Nexus phones

..what if the new Google-sold Nexus phones don't support Verizon and Sprint like the Nexus 6, 5X, and 6P? That could be a reason for this Verizon variant.

Then I sure won't buy one out of the gate; I would want to see if Verizon puts themselves between timely updates and the device. I also very much like not having their bloat ware, even disabled. As much as I like stock Android, I might look at an unlocked S7.

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