I can't find any reason to get a 8 without phone support as the only reason I would even get it is to replace my phone, most people hardly talk on their smartphones anyways, I know I don't, my phone is really nothing more than a texting an internet device, and the few times I do use my phone is hands free in my car, so a larger phone would be better all around cause having two separate devices sucks, the only better solution is the Asus padfone that we don't get in the US, if we did that would be my phone, barring that the note 8 with call capability is the next best option, without phone capability though I see note reason in getting the note 8 over the note 10.1, especially given that you can find the note 10.1 for only $10 more than the note 8.