Flip Floppin'

[Ngmasterj]

To those who have the finances to switch between phones as they please and want to be on the bleeding edge of mobile technology, and to those who are undecided between getting the Evo 3D/Samsung Galaxy S II/Photon/Nexus 23x 5gs Prime, let me just say that all these phones are great, and you'd be lucky to have any one of them. That said, you shouldn't buy a phone based on out-of-the-box performance. I know right now the reigning champ is the GS2 by majority as far as which phone is superior, but who cares? All the speed/responsiveness/performance of the GS2 or any phone for that matter can be crippled with one crappy OTA from Samsung.

What happens if the GS2 gets an OTA that slows it down, or the Evo 3D gets an OTA that speeds everything up? Are you going to keep flip flopping back and forth between phones? My point is, is that out-of-the-box performance of these phones are irrelevant. The internals of all these phones are great and you're not guaranteed the performance and stability that you currently see.

IMHO, I'm slightly disappointed in the Evo 3D's current performance when compared to the SGSII. Especially when after I watched this video: HTC EVO 3D vs. Samsung Galaxy S 2 (Video)
But why I would still pick the Evo 3D over this any day is because the performance of either phone can be modded or hacked to whatever I want. It's the hardware that I care about, and so far the Evo 3D is able to keep up with the SGS2 WHILE PUSHING 20% MORE CONTENT (I don't know if it's actually 20%, lol I just know it's more). I know that in whatever ways the SGS2 can one-up my Evo 3D, I can eventually do the same or better with my Evo 3D (assuming development will be off the hook on this phone). HTC is also known to pump out OTA's like it's no tomorrow, so even if you're not into rooting, know that whatever problems you have with the phone now is TEMPORARY, and will not last forever.

HTC has earned my respect over the years with their timely OTA's, fantastic build quality, and quick response to customer outcries, whereas Samsung has been consistently deaf to the demands of the Android community and has deliberately taken advantage of their customers, burning us in the past. Whatever missed success they receive in the US market, they earned every single bit of it with their gimped Galaxy S variants and ungodly slow firmware updates. I don't care how good the phone is now, it doesn't mean it will be good in a few months without proper support. Plus, if I wanted my android phone to look and behave like an iphone, I would get an iphone. And as for you Motorola... sigh. I tried to love you but pumping out new droids every 2 weeks with each somehow actually being worse than the last, and that god-awful Webtop... they're working in the wrong direction.

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[crzycrkr]

I agree with just about everything you said. I do take issue with everyone praising HTC build quality though, especially in referencing the EVO. I loved HTC build quality until my EVO. Every EVO I've ever seen has the cracks in the plastic frame surrounding the screen. My screen just started lifting on the bottom. That was a big problem in the beginning if I recall correctly. Plus the case is all plastic, just like the Samsung's everyone rips on. As soon as HTC bring something with the build quality of the Nexus One to Sprint I'll be back on board with them. Apparently those only go to GSM carriers though.

I just traded my EVO for a Nexus S, and I'll say this phone feels more sturdy in my hands than my EVO. only thing I miss is the soft touch battery door.

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[Jerry Hildenbrand]

What happens when HTC decides not to support the phone for the full two year contract, even when Google says it would see major benefits from the latest OS?

What if HTC decides to not give out the GPL code they are required to release, even after years of requests?

Just a couple more "what-ifs" that have actually happened to throw in your mix. One company is no better than the other. They are all in it for one thing only, and that's not your loyalty. It's your money.

 

[Ngmasterj]

What happens when HTC decides not to support the phone for the full two year contract, even when Google says it would see major benefits from the latest OS?

What if HTC decides to not give out the GPL code they are required to release, even after years of requests?

Just a couple more "what-ifs" that have actually happened to throw in your mix. One company is no better than the other. They are all in it for one thing only, and that's not your loyalty. It's your money.

True, in fact I wouldn't say that HTC is the most loyal company either. Especially with that recent fiasco with Gingerbread almost not making it to the Desire. Yeeesh. I would hate to imagine this phone not getting upgraded at least for two more firmware updates. Though this idea would probably end up doing more damage than good, I'd like to see Google get into the hardware business and just start making Nexus phones that pushed the boundaries of tech like the Nexus One did (yes yes, I know HTC manufactured the phone).

Right now customers are not exactly in the greatest spot. We're at the mercy of greedy carriers who throttle your speeds, cap your usage, and bloat your phone. And then we have OEMs that could give a crap about what Android was founded on: openness and choice, and instead exploit this to their own gain by short-selling customers product and locking down their devices.

 

[nkd]

Ok Ok, now let me see, I love my evo 3d and if it doesn't matter about a phone, then let everyone pick the phone they want. Let it be, evo 3d, sgs2, thunderbolt, droid charge, or whatever. I hate threads that make justifying a phone priority. you dont have to justify **** to anyone. Buy your phone, enjoy it, who cares what someone thinks. They are not using it. Would I get the SGS2, no probably not, but may be I will, I wouldn't let anyone tell me otherwise. I would buy the phone I want whether it is sgs2 or evo 3d. I really dont think I would either try to talk crap about either one of them online in a forum, people who do that got issues, I mean there are other things to worry about in life then a damn phone. Buy it, enjoy it, sell it, enjoy another one.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

Ok Ok, now let me see, I love my evo 3d and if it doesn't matter about a phone, then let everyone pick the phone they want. Let it be, evo 3d, sgs2, thunderbolt, droid charge, or whatever. I hate threads that make justifying a phone priority. you dont have to justify **** to anyone. Buy your phone, enjoy it, who cares what someone thinks. They are not using it. Would I get the SGS2, no probably not, but may be I will, I wouldn't let anyone tell me otherwise. I would buy the phone I want whether it is sgs2 or evo 3d. I really dont think I would either try to talk crap about either one of them online in a forum, people who do that got issues, I mean there are other things to worry about in life then a damn phone. Buy it, enjoy it, sell it, enjoy another one.

I came over from TiPb a few weeks ago and never really ventured to AC before then. I scored a Xoom from work which got me a little interested in Android (not very impressed overall though) and now the EVO 3D (very impressed as I don't seem to have the software bugs a lot of folks are talking about) Since there is only one phone released at a time by Apple you don't get a lot of arguement about what phone to get over there I was surprised to see all the trolling between the Android subforums but I guess it makes sense. People don't want to be caught with a crappy device especially if you upgrade every 2 years. What I don't get about this Samsung Galaxy S II thing though is you can't even get the phone at a US carrier right now (If I'm not mistaken). Not that you can't get it other ways but I'm sure its a pain. Not only that, the phone probably won't be released for 4 months AFTER the EVO 3D release. I don't know about you guys, but that's a long time in my gadget world especially with such a spec giant like the EVO 3D sitting there RIGHT NOW.

So to tell you the truth, I really could care less about the SGSII because when I decided to get an Android device it wasn't easily available to me. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't exist. And when it does, if it really is that much better than the EVO (not very likely looking at the specs, touchwiz, Samsung support history, difference in pixel density etc) I'll go get it. If money's an issue, I'm sure people can work something out by selling their EVO on Ebay or CL and use the proceeds to pay for the phone like that. This really is a nice device, it would be a shame if someone could't enjoy it becuase their worried about a phone that's coming out in the fall.

 

[cj100570]

Ok Ok, now let me see, I love my evo 3d and if it doesn't matter about a phone, then let everyone pick the phone they want. Let it be, evo 3d, sgs2, thunderbolt, droid charge, or whatever. I hate threads that make justifying a phone priority. you dont have to justify **** to anyone. Buy your phone, enjoy it, who cares what someone thinks. They are not using it. Would I get the SGS2, no probably not, but may be I will, I wouldn't let anyone tell me otherwise. I would buy the phone I want whether it is sgs2 or evo 3d. I really dont think I would either try to talk crap about either one of them online in a forum, people who do that got issues, I mean there are other things to worry about in life then a damn phone. Buy it, enjoy it, sell it, enjoy another one.

Amen! All this angst every time new phones are on the horizon is hi-la-ri-ous! There's always a better phone on the horizon. Buy the phone that you want and then STFU and enjoy it. There's no need for this constant bickering back and forth about which phone is better than which when it comes to support, build quality, etc. I got the E3D on day one just as I did with the original Droid, Incredible and the X. I've never regretted any of my choices and didn't down others for theirs.