Forbes says the LG V30 is as underrated as the iPhone X is overrated

[Buddy1969]

Even here on AC people seem to be biased towards Samsung. Which is the best waterproof phone? Here they tell us, it's a Samsung.

I mean: if I rate a phone for being waterproof, I rate it for not breaking under harsh circumstances, am I not right?
Therefore it seems only logical that, if both phones rate IP68, the one with the MIL-STD810g rating is better under harsh conditions, isn't it?

But no, in ACs eyes Samsung is better ... because? Well, because: Samsung. Nothing else.

Very strange...

 

[irvine752]

Even here on AC people seem to be biased towards Samsung. Which is the best waterproof phone? Here they tell us, it's a Samsung.

I mean: if I rate a phone for being waterproof, I rate it for not breaking under harsh circumstances, am I not right?
Therefore it seems only logical that, if both phones rate IP68, the one with the MIL-STD810g rating is better under harsh conditions, isn't it?

But no, in ACs eyes Samsung is better ... because? Well, because: Samsung. Nothing else.

Very strange...

The phone rated with MIL-STD810G is clearly better for harsh conditions. People seem to be misinformed that's all.

 

[chanchan05]

Even here on AC people seem to be biased towards Samsung. Which is the best waterproof phone? Here they tell us, it's a Samsung.

I mean: if I rate a phone for being waterproof, I rate it for not breaking under harsh circumstances, am I not right?
Therefore it seems only logical that, if both phones rate IP68, the one with the MIL-STD810g rating is better under harsh conditions, isn't it?

But no, in ACs eyes Samsung is better ... because? Well, because: Samsung. Nothing else.

Very strange...

It's not strange at all. Because the MIL-STD810g is just a BS term manufacturers use to make you think their phone is better. It doesn't even mean it's tested for harsh conditions. That rating can be given to non water resist devices because it's just a drop test. It's not standardized, and it's badge on the box doesn't even mean testing was actually done. At the least all it means is that after being dropped from a height of 4ft onto a floor made of 2in plywood on top of concrete, the phone is still usable. Samsung's own internal tests in their factories way surpass that rating. Actually I can't even think of any major phone model right now that will fail that test.


https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/www...phone-cases-military-drop-test-standards/amp/

 

[PAC757]

I agree the "MIL-STD810g" thing is not a real test and you are correct, for a manufacturer to use it I think all the phone has to be is water "resistant" like the IP ratings. There is a YouTube video, sorry I can't find the link, but they drop both the V30 and a Note 8, from a set height onto concrete from a set metal platform using a mechanical arm to slowly push the phone off the edge in an exact position so that both phones drop in the same orientation. They did 5 drops on each, on the face, back, top, bottom and sides. They of course both had the front glass broken, but after the 5 drops the back of the V30 had some scratches and one or 2 cracks, the back of the Note shattered on the second drop, and the touchscreen on the V30 worked without a problem at the end of the test where as the Note had multiple dead spots on the screen that wouldn't respond to touch.

 

[Buddy1969]

I've seen a few such tests and comparisons on YouTube. Seems that the glass back cracks quite early, while the front stays in usable condition for quite a while. The V30 was almost all the time the phone with the least damage or the one most usable after the tests. So whereas the MIL-STD just states, that it passes the Military standard test for durability and this is not a "Standard" in the strictest sense, it still seems that this phone can take a punch and while not staying nice and beautiful is still mostly in tact.

 

[chanchan05]

I agree the "MIL-STD810g" thing is not a real test and you are correct, for a manufacturer to use it I think all the phone has to be is water "resistant" like the IP ratings. There is a YouTube video, sorry I can't find the link, but they drop both the V30 and a Note 8, from a set height onto concrete from a set metal platform using a mechanical arm to slowly push the phone off the edge in an exact position so that both phones drop in the same orientation. They did 5 drops on each, on the face, back, top, bottom and sides. They of course both had the front glass broken, but after the 5 drops the back of the V30 had some scratches and one or 2 cracks, the back of the Note shattered on the second drop, and the touchscreen on the V30 worked without a problem at the end of the test where as the Note had multiple dead spots on the screen that wouldn't respond to touch.

Depends on the fall. There are other videos where the v30 broke first, or the Note 8 broke first. It's all in the angle of the drop. They're still both glass.