Forum Members Initial Thoughts & Reviews of the Fascinate

Cory Streater

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Howdy everyone,

Happy launch day! I know many of you have been waiting patiently for this day to arrive, and are anxious to share your thought and opinions about your brand new Fascinate!

The purpose of this thread, is to hear members thoughts & opinions on how the Fascinate stacks up amongst a suggested list of attributes:

  • Aesthetics
  • Screen
  • Hardware
  • Phone - including bluetooth & speakerphone usage
  • Overall User Interface & Samsung TouchWiz
  • Signal quality (Compared to other devices)
  • GPS
  • Social Networking
  • Email/Calendar
  • Battery Life
  • Performance
  • Media (music, movies, DLNA)
  • Samsung Widgets reviews
  • Swype vs. Android Keyboard
  • Camera (both still & video)
  • How the Fascinate compares to your previous smartphone (if applicable)
  • Likes/dislikes

Feel free to provide as little or as much detail as possible, while trying to make it as useful as possible. Hopefully this will help others who are considering the Fascinate, but would like to hear some user feedback first. Also, please do not review the Fascinate prior to having one ;)

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Got it

Ok so I just got the phone. Let me say I got no regrets going from my droid 2. The phone is fast even with multiple things going. I have no problem with bing. I actualy am starting to like it. I have had this phone or a hour but still. I have already loaded google maps and it works fine. Both bing maps and google maps have worked fine with gps. They have been realy close to actual location. It fast on the internet with wifi and 3g. It will take me time to get use to the ui. Touch wiz is actualy nice
. All in all first impressions is I LOVE it. It notifies me quick when I get an email or text. On youtube videos that are in HD like avatar trailer pic is crisp and vivid. Sound is clear and crisp. There is no distortion. Any guestions just ask.

Ps did a gps test locked onto 7 satellites with 32 foots accuracy. While moving
 
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I got my Fascinate at 10:30 am EDT and so far it is a great phone MUCH BETTER than Droid2!!!!!!! The feel of the phone is great not a heavy phone!
 
• Aesthetics
⁃ Great feel and look. Some comments comparing it to the iphone, but I'm not bothered by those kind of things. Fingerprint magnet. Whatchagonnado?
• Screen
⁃ Obviously the screen is amazing. I've got it running at full brightness, and I think I may be damaging my retinas. I have it just sitting on my desk dock and people walk by and catch it out of the corner of their eyes. I've had about 6 random visitors checking it out in ~4 hours.

• Hardware
⁃ Zip zoom. Fast, those live wallpapers that make the Droid X sluggish work just fine here.

• Phone
- including bluetooth & speakerphone usage
⁃ Haven't used it, I don't use my phone as a phone, more of a pda.

• Overall User Interface & Samsung TouchWiz
⁃ Feels light, airy. Quicky replaced with Launcherpro, so not too much usage out of TouchWiz.

• Signal quality (Compared to other devices)
⁃ About the same as my Blackberry Curve.

• GPS
⁃ Not tested, others reporting good news here.

• Social Networking
⁃ Not tested

• Email/Calendar
⁃ Unique situation here at work, so corp email is working OK, just a bit funky. Gmail integration is 100%, works great.

• Battery Life
⁃ Haven't had it long enough..

• Performance

⁃ Slick, fast. Haven't done any official benchmarks but it's pretty darn smooth.

• Media (music, movies, DLNA)
⁃ Nothing yet really..

• Samsung Widgets reviews
⁃ Nothing..

• Swype vs. Android Keyboard
⁃ Love the swype.. Have to remind myself to type in the non-dictionary words though. Going to take a bit to get used to, but I like it. Much faster than my hunt and peck.

• Camera (both still & video)
⁃ Awesome stuff. 5MP is a bit low, but it's a damn good 5MP. Very sharp photos.

• How the Fascinate compares to your previous smartphone (if applicable)

⁃ I had blackberry curve, you don't wanna know. It's better.

• Likes/dislikes
⁃ Like a lot, do not like having to hit the right power button to wake the phone up. Going to look into that..
 
Got mine hour ago. Screen is great, google maps works great with fast gps locks. So far so good..
 
After reading the positive reviews here I decided to go ahead and get one (or at least try it for 30 days). I have a DINC which I really like, just wish it had a bigger screen. I like sense, so it's taking a little while to get used to touch wiz. So far the screen is great and I have a harder time seeing the pixels than I did on the DINC's screen which always bothered me. My GPS did not pick up where I was until I went outside and then it was accurate to 10 meters, although my dinc was accurate to 6 feet, but still, that's both pretty good. The one thing I'm noticing is when I place a call, I can almost hear myself while speaking. I think this is a phenomenon that occurs with some phones, not too annoying yet, but we'll see. I also picked up the black hard plastic verizon case with the built in kickstand. It's ok but I like having a kickstand. More to come later as I try it out more.
 
Great phone. Really love it. Facebook contacts were kinda tricky, not as easy to setup as the Sense Facebook in the Incredible. Miss some of featues that Sense has but Im getting along. Keyboard is taking some getting used to, not liking the offset space bar.

Other then the most obvious things I really have not had a chance to mess with it at work.
 
FedEx man just got here so my new baby is on the charger. But one thing I have noticed so far is that the battery cover feel's kinda cheap, I guess I was hoping for some kind of metal or aluminum cover. I have a question for everyone, I want to use my phone as a hotspot but don't wanna pay VZ $20 pr mo. to use data that I already pay for, so what's the best option?
 
FedEx man just got here so my new baby is on the charger. But one thing I have noticed so far is that the battery cover feel's kinda cheap, I guess I was hoping for some kind of metal or aluminum cover. I have a question for everyone, I want to use my phone as a hotspot but don't wanna pay VZ $20 pr mo. to use data that I already pay for, so what's the best option?

Root.. if and when it gets here.
 
But one thing I have noticed so far is that the battery cover feel's kinda cheap, I guess I was hoping for some kind of metal or aluminum cover.

I definitely hope that Samsung comes out with a soft touch back...this thing is slippery as all get out. Not used to holding glossy phones and yes, it does feel cheap. As soon as I can get a new back cover I will. It's my main complaint with the phone.
 
Just checked it out at VZW store - observations and ?

Pros:

-When I went to download maps from market, I couldn't find it, as some people have experienced. But when I looked in apps, there it was! I guess someone else beat me to downloading it, (but I'm not sure how if it wasn't showing up in the market)

-Screen is gorgeous

-The thing flies! Had it running a video-heavy live wp, a few of the samsung widgets, and apps open in the background. Was flipping through screens with no stalls or stutters. Also played NFS with all of that running in the background with no problems.

-Runs smooth and looks good with LP

-Media controls on lock screen

-Size is perfect, for me. Wider and taller than my incredible, but slightly thinner, too. Tried out an employee's model in my pocket and it fits nicely

-Camera is better than my incredible, in my opinion. A complaint I've had with the dinc is its tendency to take blurry shots. Fascinate took sharper pics with less movement artifact. Faster shutter? App opens slightly faster, too.

Cons:

-Tried out a few things with Bing - doesn't seem to have a place in the app list to reset default. Long press defaults to bing voice, which sucks compared to both google and vlingo in terms of recognition and results

-Can't seem to set Vlingo to long press search key. I was really hoping for this functionality. Anyone have any luck doing this?

-Can't seem to set google contacts up with individual ringtones, which is annoying. Anyone know about this?

-Samsung widgets are nothing special. I don't like them aesthetically, but of course that's personal opinion. Otherwise tw seems very low key and unobtrusive. Switch to lp if you don't like the iclone look of the tw launcher.

-GPS, while not broken, is not as accurate as my incredible. Running GPS test side by side, my dinc consistently had 7-10 sats in view with 90% in use, while fascinate had 5 or 6 in view and in use. The result was 30-50 foot accuracy for fascinate vs 10-20 for dinc.
 
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I've done 3 returns on it, just today. Alot of problems with freezing, and having to pull the battery. And the touch screen just not working. Thought i'd let everyone know.
VZ TECH.
 
I've done 3 returns on it, just today. Alot of problems with freezing, and having to pull the battery. And the touch screen just not working. Thought i'd let everyone know.
VZ TECH.

Out of curiosity do your sales reps tell people to install task managers?
 
Hmm strange indeed. I was actually the only sale of the Fascinate as of around noon EST at my local store.
 

That's weird...because every single person that I've converted to Android has come home with one installed at the store. They are definitely pushing them...at least here in California. Task killers are the devil...especially on this phone that has it's own built in if you want to use it.
 
I definitely hope that Samsung comes out with a soft touch back...this thing is slippery as all get out. Not used to holding glossy phones and yes, it does feel cheap. As soon as I can get a new back cover I will. It's my main complaint with the phone.
You can get a gel body glove for it.
 
Hello,

My 2 year has finally come up and it's time to make a decision, or at least determine which phone I will do a 30 day trial with. In regards to smart phones, I am a past user of Palm 650, WM (Q an others), BB Storm1, Droid 1, and back to BB Storm 1(POS). The question is do I move forward with the Facinate for at least a year, Droid X, wait for the new HTC slider phone coming out, or go for the WP7, in Oct/Nov? I like the form factor, Apps, and ease of Use of an Iphone, but I hate it's reception problems, dependance on iTunes, and all the other BS that comes with Apple products. The thing I like about WP7 is that is will be extremely business centric (Security, Office docs, and Email), which is a huge requirement for my use. Android offers open OS, and BB.... Well, it does Email well. Bottom line, it will be some form of Android or WP7, on Verizon or Sprint. I have been a Verizon customer for 12 years, and I dont' see myself changing, but you never know.

On to my impression of the Facinate:

I spent a couple of hours on the Facinate in the store. The screen is very detailed, accurate, and looks far superior to the Droid X. I went into this reading all the countless blogs/forums on this phone, so I had a good idea of what people liked and disliked out of the gates.

I started by throwing away the bing search, bing maps, and anything associated with Microsoft. I figure if you have a Google phone, use google apps, beyond them being far superior at this point in time. As many of you know, this doesn't stop the code from doing redirects right back to these Apps for things like Search and Mapping tasks. The other thing I did was to was download Google maps/Navigate. Thankfully, I discovered that when you go to a webpage and hit the address, it gives you an option to do Google Maps, Bing, or VZ Maps. Once you hit G Maps, you then can hold down on the address to have it the navigation. Until a Root comes out, you can at least use Google Maps and Navigation, and not be subject to the inferior Bing options. The Navigation from Google is just like ever other Google phone, so no surprises there.

I next checked out need for speed to see how the 6-way axis worked. Nice graphics for a phone, and the game itself was OK. You could accelerate by tilting forward and decelerate by tilting it back. Also you could turn by tilting side to side. I think the possibilities with the superior accelerometer will be far greater compared to the other current available android phones, like DroidX, Incredible, or EVO.

Next I tried typing on the phone, since I have become very comfortable with using an on-screen keyboard opposed to physical keyboard. I noticed that typing on the Facinate was a little more difficult compared to the DroidX, in Portrait Mode. You do get a vibrate from the Facinate, that I am not aware if it is available on the DroidX. The portrait ease on the DroidX probably was due to the larger screen allowing for bigger buttons. On Landscape, I didn't notice any advantage on either, but I did make less overall mistakes when I was typing on a Droid2, although I was typing slower. I know it is a matter of getting used to, and I will once again be flying on my screen. The keyboard ease of use if VERY important to me since I write a tone of long emails and txt a lot amongst my clients, partners, and co workers.

One complaint on the forums is the look alike buttons compared to Iphone. I kinda liked the look and feel of the phone, but I wish it did have the home screen found with HTC Sense (Incerdible & EVO). I don't mind touchwize, but I did realize that they use third party widgets to do weather, time, and other functions, compared to HTC homebuilt apps. For Moto's DroidX, this portion was rather weak and boring. At the end of the day, I know anyone can make the home screen pretty by downloading Launcher Pro onto any of these phones.

Call quality seemed good, but I would have to travel up and down 101 and 280 (SF Bay Area) to truly understand it's overall quality. I assume it will be far superior to my current STORM or any AT&T phone. I have read that the Droid X is also good, but I will have to try it to be certain.

Web-surfing seemed similar to the DroidX, so there were no complaints here. Most likely I will end up using Firefox (when available), Skyfire, Dolphin, or a non Verizon version of Chrome. Hopefully that will initially take out the Bing dominance in the Internet Search engine.

They all have widgets for FB, Youtube, and anything you would find in any other Android phone, so it seems a wash in this respect.

One thing I liked but didn't find it customizable was the Car Doc and Docking Station apps. These were far nicer on the Facinate than compared to the DroidX version, but this does integrate tightly with Bing as the standard Search and mapping app. I couldn't find a way to change this, so hopefully someone could comment on a way to do this. I did see third party apps that you could get from the Market Place, but they still didn't seem as nice as the ones that came with the Facinate.

The camera seemed fine, but I will only be able to truely determine this when I take my own action pics and see how it handles motion and low lighting situations. I don't expect SLR quality, but I do expect the Facinate to be slightly better than the droidX due to a better sensor and software. I know many say that the DroidX is better due to it's 8 MP camera compared to the Facinate's 5 MP camera, but as most photographers know it comes down to basics of the sensor, color accuracy, ISO, Shutter speed, and F Stop capabilities, when comparing phone cameras. Mega Pixels do matter, but are more important when you blow up the pictures or when you are editing the photo. These are all crappy Jpeg photos, and unless you are blowing up these pics beyond 8x11, it comes down to the actual optical size and Sensor in the phone. IMO, the only phone that might produce decent photos will be Nokia N8, due to the size of the lens, the quality of the lens, and higher quality sensor. If you need a better photo, use a point in shoot or even better, a DSLR. Use your phone for those quick, fun photos that you may post on your FB page.

I didn't try the video recording feature, but I am sure it will be similar to the DroidX, which both are ok for those quick video clips. Again it comes down to the same capabilities as the camera, when comparing these phones.

A couple of conerns I do have about the phone is what a ROOT will actually do to the phone. For example, will it take out all the goodness that the touchwize does offer and put it to standard Android OS, or can you pick and choose what bloat ware you want to take out or keep. I like most things about the phone except for Bing integration. If I can replace this portion with Google, take most bloat ware out, and then add HTC Sense, then I would be an ecstatic camper.

The other concern is the memory. I normally understand this well, but lately this seems to be all too confusing. I am a heavy corportate user, web surfer, video streamer, Texter, Email users, Calendar User, Business Cloud App user, and slight phone gamer. Bottom line I push every phone I used to the max. I didn't keep the Doid1 because it was horrible for business use, and I wasn't a fan of Touchdown. With 2.1 it makes Android OS more bearable, and 2.2 will fix most of my concerns.

Oh, back to the memory thing. Typically RAM is used for app and phone processes. I see that the Facinate has 512 MB of RAM, but 128K is used for GPU, and the remaining for phone processes. I also see that there is 2GB internal memory that some say is for Apps, Pics, Musics, etc.. My question is, if the phone only has 384 KB of memory for processes, what happens when you fill up the phone with apps and it exceeds this amount. I would think that it would slow down to a hault and crash like my BB Storm did. Next, I hear the Froyo is supposed to open this RAM to allow access to the internal memory in the phone. Does this include SD card also, or is that just for Apps, pics, music, and the a like? Can someone comment who truly understands this and doesn't just speculate on this. If this is the case, then the DroidX wins hands down, and this might sway me to that device. Maybe the phone can use some of the ROM as RAM with Froyo, which then would be a limit of iinternal or Internal/SD memory. Again, if someone could comment on this, it would be great.

Overall, I think I will pick up the Facinate tomorrow to use for at least 30 days. It didn't feel too cheap as some say, and as long as the memory thing isn't an issue, then I know in a few weeks a ROOT will come out allowing me to do what I want with BING or any other program.

I hope this helps and I would love to hear feedback.
 

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