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TBolt2011

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So I'm curious as to who we'll all be looking to if this phone is ever in our hands. Are there specific people sitting around here devoted to this? Will it all be in the Hacking forums? I'm very interested in rooting this thing when I can, and would even love to get creative enough or into it enough to be able to help out at some point (Small amount of programming knowledge). Just wondering who it is that we'll be seeing with most of the Bolt's rooting info.

Kind of a general question too... After reading about rooting once more, is it essentially just writing an app that lets you be the "administrator"? Everyone talks about making the su app, but they only briefly mention it and leave it there.
 

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I am confident that there will be a very active "Developer" community for this beast. If you have never been to xda-developers.com, I suggest you go over there and get familiar with it. A lot of those guys have accounts here and are more than happy to share when they cook up something good.

Technically, rooting your phone is possible by exploiting the Nand lock on the phone, which allows you to do a couple of things...

1) Make a complete copy of the phones files, in case you get a bad flash or for whatever reason need to restore the phone's original state. Do this right after rooting and do NOT delete this file.

2) It gives you permision to write over files HTC or VZW would rather you not. For example, you can rename cityid.apk to cityid.apk.bak so that the phone no longer recognizes it as an app and it doesn't show up on your phone (even though it is still "there")

3) Certain applications need "Super User" permissions, like Root Explorer, for example. So does Shoot Me and Titanium Backup. The SU app allows you to grant these apps super user permission.

4) It allows you to access all of the functions of the phone that have been locked down. For example, wireless teather. Instead of paying extra to unlock this feature, there are those who use other teathering apps (that need super user permissoin) to acomplish this without signing up for the service.

5) My personal favorite... Flashing ROM's and kernels. This allows you to re-image your phone and have a totally custom user experience. I know at least 50 people with DInc's, and not one of them is set up like mine. I am using a ROM ported over from the Desire Z, so it is sense 2.0 on a device that isn't "supposed" to have it. Way cool.

Keep an eye on this sub forum if you have the slightest interest in rooting and I know that there will be quite a few of us "Blazing the Trail" and sharing our tips and tricks for everyone else to have an easier and more positive experience than we did. Hope that answered at least some of your questions.
 

TBolt2011

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Awesome, I seriously can't wait. This would be the first Android I actually own, but I'm confident enough to root it. My MAIN reason is to get free HotSpot. I won't be using it constantly, but a few times a month probably and that's so convenient!

I'm pretty excited about this. Glad to see other people here are interested and I won't have to go very much further if at all. :D
 

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This will be my first Android device and coming from a jailbroken iPhone you can bet I'll try and figure out how to root the phone. Hopefully it's easy to do like jailbreaking has become.
 

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The team at unrEVOked really likes to support HTC phones, and I am sure this one is no different. They have permanent root for the Desire Z, so I'm sure they will have a one click method out as soon as they determine it's safe...
 

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The 1-click methods are super convenient, but I say if you're going to root you should go all in and get familiar with the manual process. I'm not saying you should memorize every step, but you'll appreciate it more when you know what goes in to it. Also, that's just one more thing to be an elitist about, which I will always partake in.
 

bkorver

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I agree with manually installing ROM's and doing the backups and wipes yourself, for kernels as well. I seem to have less "bad flashes" and fewer breakdowns than when I let ROM Manager do it. As far as the rooting process itself, unrEVOked roots, instals Clockwork and superuser in one fell swoop. It's definately safer for the average user who doesn't want to spend hours trying to pop out the sd card and put it back in at the exact second while typing commands in adb...

Long story short... you have a great point. Hats off to you, sir. But, I thing most people (myself included) would be better off waiting for unrEVOked to give us the green light... I don't have an extra $750 laying arround to replace my LTE paperweight.
 

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2) It gives you permision to write over files HTC or VZW would rather you not. For example, you can rename cityid.apk to cityid.apk.bak so that the phone no longer recognizes it as an app and it doesn't show up on your phone (even though it is still "there")

I wanted to quote this since it was in a long post. You can't underestimate the importance of RENAMING the apps you want to get rid of versus DELETING them. If you ever want to get an OTA update, these apps have to be there and functioning. It takes a minute or two to remove the .bak extension.

If you delete them, you are going to have to go on a wild goose chase. I can't tell you how may times I've seen people desperate to grab an OTA asking "Does anybody have the _____.apk?"

Great info, bkorver
 
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