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Now that Google has purchased Motorola Mobility I wonder how this will affect our "free" upgrade?
Google mobility and 4G upgrade
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I don't think it will. The actual purchase and changing of hands is a long way off. Even if it was tomorrow, Google absorbs the liabilities along with the benefits of Motorola Mobile, so would be responsible for upgrading us.
There is just no way for anyone to take away that offer without extreme pain... from a penalty and compensation for false advertising angle as well as from a public opinion angle. Google would never start off it's relationship with the community as a hardware supplier by screwing over all the Honeycomb GED owners. ;-)
If anything, I would think Google would immediately be in talks with Motorola to find out how to get the upgrade going as soon as possible. Maybe even throw their own money at the problem, if it's a hardware issue.
There is just no way for anyone to take away that offer without extreme pain... from a penalty and compensation for false advertising angle as well as from a public opinion angle. Google would never start off it's relationship with the community as a hardware supplier by screwing over all the Honeycomb GED owners. ;-)
If anything, I would think Google would immediately be in talks with Motorola to find out how to get the upgrade going as soon as possible. Maybe even throw their own money at the problem, if it's a hardware issue.
Because Live2ride883 has been arguing with me about something for awhile now. The basics are that you will begin to see the 4G upgrades in early September. The reason I requested for him to PM me is because I didn't want to call him out publicly on this forum, which is not allowed.
The hardware is purely a Motorola issue, not Google. Google is not that involved with this upgrade.
Not anymore. I'd be shocked if they haven't already had many serious talks between the two about managing the upgrade.
The upgrade and the lack thereof, is a significant financial, marketing, and branding liability for Motorola Mobility. Google is paying billion$ for them. You betcha it's a serious topic of conversation.
The Google-Motorola acquisition is not complete. It will take months. Sure they're talking. They always have. The 4G upgrade has almost nothing to do with Google. It has to do with hardware. Verizon has more to do with this upgrade than Google does.
You're ignoring some business fundamentals here.
Google intends to buy Motorola Mobility. When a company buys another, their primary concerns are the details of what they are buying. In those details are the assets, liabilities and brand value of the company.
Upgrading all the XOOMs with 4G radios FOR FREE is a significant financial liability on the books of Motorola Mobility. It also represents a marketing and brand value liability. This situation is of keen interest to the purchasing company... Google. They would work together to make sure the situation were under control.
What you are saying WAS true, but it is not anymore. The game changed the moment Google and Mot Mob decided it was in both of their best interests to move forward with the purchase. Remember, this is not a hostile takeover. Nobody is swallowing any poison pills here. They are working together.
This isn't speculation. This is business fundamentals. I'd be floored... and so would any analyst... if what I described is not happening.
I don't know what your level of education or experience is, but what you just stated sounded like it came out of a business strategy textbook. While I do agree with your opinions generally, you are flat out wrong in this case. Google can back out of this deal at any time, albeit for a hefty price. That being said, I'm sure Google and Motorola are in deep discussions about various things. One of them is not the 4G upgrade of the Xoom tablet. Let's remember, Google agreed to pay $40 per share for a company that was trading at $22. Motorola has already incurred the vast majority of the liabilities associated with the upgrade, the chips. The shipping and labor costs are significant, but not extreme. Also, where can you find any details from Google regarding this issue? In fact Verizon is the one who will be notifying you of the upgrade. I have been in deep discussions with folks at Motorola about this particular issue. Very intense and specific discussions. I must humbly say that you are completely off base on this topic. The Xooms will begin to be upgraded the 2nd week of September. That is a fact. Be patient and trust me on this one.
Also, Motorola has more CURRENT assets than they do TOTAL liabilities. The costs associated with the upgrade are expenses.
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Not interested in PM'ing you at this time, as far as I am concerned the question was answered before you posted anything here.
As for me arguing with you on any issue, here is my reply: Any previous discussion in other threads that we have had has no bearing on this thread at all as far as I am concerned.
If you have anything to add please feel free to put it here in public for all to see.
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Actually it wasn't. I have the exact date of the upgrade and mine will be upgraded before anyone else's. In addition to that I have already received other compensation from Motorola. If you would like to know, PM me. If not, so be it. I made assurances to Motorola that I will not make public the information that I have yet to do. So, I was going to share it with you privately. Also, to rub it in a little bit as well. But I don't think I will be doing that anymore. Oh, and by the way, you were wrong all along. I gave you the opportunity to see that you and all the other naysayers were wrong, but you declined. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.
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OK, so it is now clear you have zero biz schooling. Why would you engage in a conversation when, clearly, the meaning and context of the terms used are foreign to you? It's OK not to know stuff, but continuing on as if you do erodes credibility.
I work with many young engineers. Their primary fault... the fault with many young people... is their inability to accept they are ignorant of something. I remind them of Votaire's quote: "Judge a person by their questions, rather than their answers."
I always reserve the right to be wrong. It happens to all of us. Over the years, I have found things I believed turned out to be faulty info. But when my brain comes up dry or with limited info on a subject, I ask questions to further my understanding, rather than be so arrogant as to correct someone that seems confident in the subject.
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I emailed Verizon yesterday regarding the 4g LTE upgrade. Here is there response: (I find it worrisome that they refer this as a software upgrade)
Thank you for contacting Verizon Wireless. We greatly value your business and we are committed to provide you the best customer service possible. I am sorry to hear about the difficulties that you have been experiencing with your service. I wanted to send you an email to provide as much information as I can.
Xxxxxxxx, (My name has been removed)
The software update is still in its final stages of development however you along with myself and many others share the anticipation of the software push for the 4G functionality of the XOOM, once the update becomes available it will be rolled out in stages and not everyone will receive the update at the same time you will receive a notification to your device once it does become available advising you to update your device.
Most questions regarding your device can be answered by visiting us at https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...TPS://www.verizon.com/support/&token=XuxUTGf6. Simply sign in or register for additional account information.
I hope that this information is helpful to you. However if you need additional assistance, please reply to this email with a daytime number to reach you. You can also give us a call at 800-922-0204 and press option 3 for technical support. You will want to make sure that you are calling from a separate line and that your device is available so that we can assist you further. We appreciate your business and thank you for using Verizon Wireless products and services.
Brian
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Thank you for contacting Verizon Wireless. We greatly value your business and we are committed to provide you the best customer service possible. I am sorry to hear about the difficulties that you have been experiencing with your service. I wanted to send you an email to provide as much information as I can.
Xxxxxxxx, (My name has been removed)
The software update is still in its final stages of development however you along with myself and many others share the anticipation of the software push for the 4G functionality of the XOOM, once the update becomes available it will be rolled out in stages and not everyone will receive the update at the same time you will receive a notification to your device once it does become available advising you to update your device.
Most questions regarding your device can be answered by visiting us at https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...TPS://www.verizon.com/support/&token=XuxUTGf6. Simply sign in or register for additional account information.
I hope that this information is helpful to you. However if you need additional assistance, please reply to this email with a daytime number to reach you. You can also give us a call at 800-922-0204 and press option 3 for technical support. You will want to make sure that you are calling from a separate line and that your device is available so that we can assist you further. We appreciate your business and thank you for using Verizon Wireless products and services.
Brian
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Data Technical Support
The reason why I said that about the textbook was because I know what those terms are, and I was suggesting that you have no clue what you're talking about, like you just regurgitated information from said textbook. I am 35 years old. I have a Master's degree in business administration and run my own business, thank you. I will be more than happy to send you a screen shot of 4G running on my Xoom in about 2-3 weeks. Have wonderful day.
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I am very sad to inform you it certainly doesn't show from your posts.
I'm not sure why you're offering me a screen shot of 4G running. I didn't doubt you screamed loud enough and long enough that Mot put you to the head of the update list.
I'm not even sure I want the upgrade. 90% of the time I'm in WiFi. The other 10% rarely needs more than 3G provides. I'll wait until I hear about power consumption differences before I send my unit in.
Please explain why my posts don't reflect that, specifically. Yes, you are correct about the position of the update list. I didn't scream at all. It was a simple letter. The whole point you made was that the upgrade would be affected by the future Google acquisition of Motorola Mobility. I said that it would in no way affect the upgrade. You disagreed citing various theories of M&A operations, while using jargon you would find in a textbook to sound intelligent. Neither one of us knows to what extent Google and Motorola speak about the upcoming acquisition. My whole point was to tell you that in no way will the 4G upgrade be affected by said acquisition. I have specific, detailed knowledge of the upgrade, but you choose to dismiss it. That's OK. Fortunately we live in the USA and that entitles you to have opinions, no matter how ignorant they may be. If you would be specific as to how any of my posts would show a lack of understanding of the capital markets, I would welcome that. Also, your decision not to upgrade your Xoom would presumably result in cost savings for Motorola. If many other people feel the way you do, that would result in even more cost savings for Motorola, correct?
Seems like its just the two of you going back and fourth on this. Before it gets to personal or out of line take it to a pm to work it out. This post is not going anywhere now but into a argument.
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