Google Nexus 6 Its the end of the Nexus brand

[Ry]

Marketing didn't drive my sale of the Note 3. I don't watch commercials or events. User experience, reviews, sd cards, spen, removable batteries, long battery life, and other features drove my sale.

All marketing does it get the foot in the door and bring awareness. The rest depends on the product.

I'm not talking about the people that post on sites like this.

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[Ry]

and unfortunately for Samsung that's backfired. They spent so much on advertising that profits are down 60% over last year.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/sams...ts-plunge-on-weak-smartphone-sales-1412641323

They're still in a better place than Motorola, LG, and HTC.

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[tdizzel]

and unfortunately for Samsung that's backfired. They spent so much on advertising that profits are down 60% over last year.

Samsung Electronics Third-Quarter Profit Plunge on Weak Smartphone Sales - WSJ

Uh, no. Marketing is a cost of doing business. Having a lower profit because you spent the amount you budgeted for isn't backfiring. By that reasoning, building phones backfired because the cost of the parts lowered profits. Paying employees backfired because salaries caused profit to be lowered. Having income backfired because they had to pay taxes and that caused profit to be lower. Did they spend a crapload more than anyone else on marketing? Yes. Did it "backfire?" Absolutely not.
Now if a large amount of their customers saw their ads, were put off by them and switched brands, that would be backfiring.

 

[qnet]

It seems like some of you have not been into the Nexus phones that long. There have been only two Nexus phones that sold initially at a cheap price, the N4 & N5, both of which were the last two Nexus phones. All the other phones, the Nexus One, Nexus S, and Galaxy Nexus all had premium prices. I know this because I've owned and payed full price for them all.

I'm probably one of the original Nexus fanboys. Every year the Nexus is released, I hear different complaints. Every year the Nexus phone gains new fans in one way or the other, without them really understanding what the Nexus program is about. To be honest, I don't totally understand what it's about, and I'm not sure Google does either.

I'm sure I've told this story before somewhere on this forum, but here goes, LOL. When the Nexus One was released it was a high end phone from my understanding. At the time It was sold online only through Google. The Play store didn't exist back then, only the Android market, and it was just an app store. T Mobile was the main carrier you had to sign up with to use the Nexus One. A friend of mine recommended I take a look at the Nexus One, since I didn't want to switch to AT&T to buy an Iphone.

To make a long story sort of short, I bought the Nexus One, along with the car & desk docks, and loved it. The Nexus One didn't sell very well and it had it's issues early on. After only a few months, Google stopped selling the Nexus One and all it's accessories. The only way you could get a Nexus One after that was if you were a developer (all you had to do was pay a small dev fee I believe).

From then on the Nexus program became a myth, a developer or Google reference phone. I hear that a lot, and maybe that's what Google has told some of the tech sites, including this one. However IMO I think they initially meant it to be a premium phone, it just didn't sell well, and a lot of people didn't know about it.

The Nexus 6 is the Nexus phone I've been waiting for. They went all out on specs and the price reflects that. As much as I like the other Nexus phones, there was always something missing.

Anyway, I enjoy this time of year and like to come on here and read you guys/gals conversations. It means the new Nexus phone is right around the corner. I do share the OP concerns about VZW getting the Nexus again, but I think it may be different this time. Even it it isn't, a least it's not exclusive to big red.

 

[Chex313]

Uh, no. Marketing is a cost of doing business. Having a lower profit because you spent the amount you budgeted for isn't backfiring. By that reasoning, building phones backfired because the cost of the parts lowered profits. Paying employees backfired because salaries caused profit to be lowered. Having income backfired because they had to pay taxes and that caused profit to be lower. Did they spend a crapload more than anyone else on marketing? Yes. Did it "backfire?" Absolutely not.
Now if a large amount of their customers saw their ads, were put off by them and switched brands, that would be backfiring.

When you spend billions in marketing, and you lose 33% market share than your advertising backfired. I stand by what WSJ and every other analyst is saying...These are not my ideas, If you know more than these analysts good for you.

Samsung still has around 25% of the market, down from 33% a year ago, but a trio of Chinese firms Lenovo, Huawei and Xiaomi have rapidly grabbed a big slice. It was the whole Galaxy range which propelled Samsung's profits ever higher and phones like the latest Galaxy Note 4 still get glowing reviews.

Also I could care less about Samsung... its a Korean CO. and I own 0 stock in it. I don't use an iphone but I care about Apple because its American and I own stock. The more market share Samsung loses the happier I am.

I do not have a degree in marketing, but if you think you can't dramatically overspend in advertising you are mistaken.

Jingoism for Korea is nothing I strive for.

Apologies to our South Korean members.

 

[WeAreAllUnique]

Re: Google Nexus 6 So its just anothe phone now, not special?

I think the Nexus program is a needed program in the Android community unless manufacturers begin giving consumers the option of deleting their skins.

Scribbled from the mighty pen of my Galaxy Note 4!

 

[wtherrell]

Re: So its just anothe phone now, not special?

Note4 is 699 unlocked on Verizon, with better hardware.

At $350 its easy to excuse the N5 shortcomings. At $650 the N6 cannot have any.

Sorry, the Note4 on Verizon isn't unlocked at all. The bootloader is locked down tighter than Ft. Knox. And TOUCHWIZ! If Verizon Note 4 were truly unlocked it would be my choice. Also I think the radios in Motorola phones are much better than Samsung. So the Nexus best thing is the N6.
If you don't plan to root /rom Note4 will probably offer more right out of the box.
But for us flashaholics with the truly unlocked Nexus: Oh, the places we'll go!

 

[truebruin]

Re: So its just anothe phone now, not special?

Sorry, the Note4 on Verizon isn't unlocked at all. The bootloader is locked down tighter than Ft. Knox. And TOUCHWIZ! If Verizon Note 4 were truly unlocked it would be my choice. Also I think the radios in Motorola phones are much better than Samsung. So the Nexus best thing is the N6.
If you don't plan to root /rom Note4 will probably offer more right out of the box.
But for us flashaholics with the truly unlocked Nexus: Oh, the places we'll go!

There is a Developer Edition of the Note 4 for Verizon. It costs $700 off-contract and has an unlocked bootloader. So yes, it is truely unlocked.

 

[wtherrell]

Re: So its just anothe phone now, not special?

There is a Developer Edition of the Note 4 for Verizon. It costs $700 off-contract and has an unlocked bootloader. So yes, it is truely unlocked.

But because the regular version is locked down and the the Dev edition at present is very difficult to obtain, the future of development for it looks bleak indeed. I don't think there's going to be a "Loki" this time around. For the Nex, very bright.