Google's Nexus success a battle won at home or over seas?

[bunique4life05]

LTE will eventually replace 3G and hspa. What will Google do then with the Nexus line?

Is Google success with Nexus line determine by United States or internationally? Which market has the most profit or if they successful in either market doesn't really matter if they struggle in the other? For example look at Huawei and the Sony Xperia line because they are international successful but in comparison in stakes there market share is small.

LTE is big market in US but globally a relatively a small market is this what strives Google to stay with hspa?

For Google if they succeed international the us market is only 1/6th of cellular market. Then take in account that half international market is running LTE is still twice as big as us market. Really LTE is issue in major profit sales in the states for the Nexus 4 but internationally there is much room for success.


This bring new perspective to what Andy Rubin spoke with theverge.

"We certainly have a desire to offer devices on every carrier on the planet," he told me. "The tactical issue is GSM vs. LTE. A lot of the networks that have deployed LTE haven't scaled completely yet ? they're hybrid networks. They'll do their old thing and they'll do LTE, which means the devices need both radios built into them."
"WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE DEVICES ARE AVAILABLE FOR EVERY NETWORK ON THE PLANET."
But there's more. It's not just a technical issue for Google. I can hear it in the way Rubin talks about the landscape of the wireless industry.
"For now we're gonna sit back and watch those networks evolve. Two radios in a device right now certainly raises the cost, and diminishes battery life." This point seems to frustrate him. "When we did the Galaxy Nexus with LTE we had to do just that, and it just wasn't a great user experience. It's possible to do it right, but that's not where we'll put our resources initially. Tactically, we want to make sure the devices are available for every network on the planet."

Google has to consider simply more than the US market because the international market obviously much larger share for profit. The US is just one market the Nexus brand is trying to break into but the US market is not a do or die for the Nexus brand.

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[Woosh]

LTE will eventually replace 3G and hspa. What will Google do then with the Nexus line?

Is Google success with Nexus line determine by United States or internationally? Which market has the most profit or if they successful in either market doesn't really matter if they struggle in the other? For example look at Huawei and the Sony Xperia line because they are international successful but in comparison in stakes there market share is small.

LTE is big market in US but globally a relatively a small market is this what strives Google to stay with hspa?

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Obviously by the time LTE becomes officially standard we will see better radios and the ability to access most if not all of them with a single radio.

But its a bit difficult to measure success here. Because I don't know Google's true motives with this phone. If you told me this phone was going to be $500 and available for every network I could say that Google is making a play for the mainstream and is attempting to compete srsly with its competition. But that didn't end up happening.

So lets say Google sells a million units and a good amount of them are devs who get the phone and update their apps to the proper OS because they have access to a great test phone at a great price. This is something to measure success on as well as profits.

I don't think this will hit Samsung numbers in sales. But, like I said....I don't rly know if that was their intentions either. Now more than ever this seems like a dev phone .

The next question is will these phones even be needed by the time LTE becomes overly prevalent. Google is making smoother and smoother OS and as time goes on they may find a way to sort out this update situation and be able to rely more on their partners success rather than needing to make their own line.

 

[bunique4life05]

Obviously by the time LTE becomes officially standard we will see better radios and the ability to access most if not all of them with a single radio.

But its a bit difficult to measure success here. Because I don't know Google's true motives with this phone. If you told me this phone was going to be $500 and available for every network I could say that Google is making a play for the mainstream and is attempting to compete srsly with its competition. But that didn't end up happening.

So lets say Google sells a million units and a good amount of them are devs who get the phone and update their apps to the proper OS because they have access to a great test phone at a great price. This is something to measure success on as well as profits.

I don't think this will hit Samsung numbers in sales. But, like I said....I don't rly know if that was their intentions either. Now more than ever this seems like a dev phone .

The next question is will these phones even be needed by the time LTE becomes overly prevalent. Google is making smoother and smoother OS and as time goes on they may find a way to sort out this update situation and be able to rely more on their partners success rather than needing to make their own line.

I think there intention is to be successful international because such bigger market than the US. I think we like to measure success with US as if the US is world which is not the case. Eric Schmidt made this point relavent with his international press events for the Nexus 7.

Google intent from beginning was more to make a market in US but always knew the International market was important. Google has tried to get Nexus line how to US market by making compromises with delayed carrier updates, bloatware and fundament nexus features blocked. Now with Nexus 4,7, and 10 they pushing Nexus line how they intended regardless what US market wants (LTE) and probably focusing on catching the larger international market. If they gain success international which I believe they will then they can wait until the LTE market in US can work with the Nexus line without compromises.



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[Ry]

Clearly it's still a hobby for Google.

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[anon(847090)]

Verizon and sprint gnexus are a shame for the Nexus line of devices.
LTE is not standard yet and google have to make different device for different markets. thats not the case with GSM.

ATT dont even have a lot of cities with LTE and they make their own standards.

googl is a MNC and it does mattr if they win at home or outside. all it matters is to make it popular.

 

[bunique4life05]

Clearly it's still a hobby for Google.

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I though this as well but I think this is a misconception only looks that way if you focus solely on what they have done in the US market. If you look back to the Nexus One and now but they making the international market there goal. Furthermore I think this what Google has comes to terms with is US market can wait(LTE) because right now the us market comes with to many comprises to the Nexus Line so Google does not have make big strive more this particular market when the international market(Non LTE which is more than two times the US market) is so much bigger. Google has been side track to break into the US market which on surface would made Nexus line seems like "hobby" for them in your terms.

 

[bunique4life05]

Verizon and sprint gnexus are a shame for the Nexus line of devices.
LTE is not standard yet and google have to make different device for different markets. thats not the case with GSM.

ATT dont even have a lot of cities with LTE and they make their own standards.

googl is a MNC and it does mattr if they win at home or outside. all it matters is to make it popular.

Popularity equals sales. If Google is successful in either market they will also be popular. I don't understand your last statement.

 

[Fairclough]

America's market is big, however China & Asia's market is BIGGER!
Who ever wins the Asian market will dominate, sorry American's. I looked at their mobiles, they are fantastic, their middle range has a few equivalent of the Nexus 4. A few companies have released phones that match the power of it and are infact cheaper (mind you they are making a loss on purpose to undermine their competition), soon they are releasing the worlds thinnest phone with SIII international specs. The problem with their market is, there is too many options for a single brand to control. The reason I am saying this, LTE cannot determine the success of the Nexus 4. China is a GSM country, no LTE there and look at its market place.

 

[Ry]

America's market is big, however China & Asia's market is BIGGER!
Who ever wins the Asian market will dominate, sorry American's. I looked at their mobiles, they are fantastic, their middle range has a few equivalent of the Nexus 4. A few companies have released phones that match the power of it and are infact cheaper (mind you they are making a loss on purpose to undermine their competition), soon they are releasing the worlds thinnest phone with SIII international specs. The problem with their market is, there is too many options for a single brand to control. The reason I am saying this, LTE cannot determine the success of the Nexus 4. China is a GSM country, no LTE there and look at its market place.

There are CDMA prodivers in Asia.

And China is not exclusively a GSM country.