Got to spend a few days comparing my Note 4 to an iPhone Plus,,, the results were,,,,

[TheOpusFuller]

I think that's the problem. You have to futz with the setting in order to get decent battery life. Where as the iphone, you get good battery life out of the box.

I had my 6+ off the charger since 7am and it's at 99%, then again that's on standbye.

I just need to figure out what to do with this note 4 in order to get decent battery life. I'm at 30% right now and I've only been off the charger since 7am.

I would also counter that the rest of the features aren't just there if I chose to use them. Because of the bloated amount of features I have to spend time in order to figire out how to turn them off otherwise I'm the one who suffers because those features kill your battery.

I'm not saying the features are all bad. But some are just way too much and not needed.

I am digging it though.

 

[Haalcyon]

There is something to be said for simplicity and th email iPhone has that. A lot of people, including my wife and a lot of other tech-noobish types prefer a phone they can just pick up and start using to great effect. A phone that requires minimal effort to exploit. I notice that folks compare the iPhone 6 and 6+ to the Note. That doesn't seem like the fairest comparison as it seems like the iPhones should really be compared to the S5 or G3, etc. The Note 4 seems like a workstation-class device whereas the iPhones are mainstream. That said, I love spec overkill and love my Note 4.

 

[fragologist]

The reason, as I see it, for the plethora of options is to make the phone unique to you. If you wanted to you could use your note just like an iphone and not use any note 4 features. or you could just use a few . The point is a person might only use %10 of the features and another person may use a different set of features. It's what makes each android phone unique. Whereas every iphone is identical except for wallpapers and app icon arrangement. I'm not bashing the iphone because I get why people would not want to deal with all the features. Simplicity is not a bad thing. I just perfer android because I like to tinker with stuff.

I am in the process of making my Note 4 self aware.

 

[TheOpusFuller]

I hear ya. Again, not bashing the note 4 at all. It's a device I wanted to own otherwise I wouldn't have spent 700 bucks on it! Haha.

I need the gear vr like ASAP. Where can I get this today!!!

 

[fjd726]

I use both Android and iOS (I'm typing this post on my new Air 2 right now).

Im both a longtime iPhone and Galaxy phone user.

Just for curiosity I purchased a iPhone 6 Plus to do a little battle with my T-Mobile Note 4,,,, while the Plus does not suck, it could no way keep up with my N4.

Better call quality and way way way better picture and video quality with my N4 than the Plus,,,, I returned the Plus and happily paid the restocking fee.

Matter of fact, the thing that shocked me the most was how much better the N4 camera was compared to the Plus (all my picture and video comparisons were done indoors),,,, also, the instant pixel focus the Plus advertises,,, I sure didn't see it.

Both with video and still shots my Note 4 was way sharper and focused quicker than the Plus,,,, also the Plus video and stills looked washed out and dull compared to my Note 4.

And I've watched the videos on YouTube, Plus camera vs N4 camera and on some of these YouTube videos everything sometimes looks about equal,,,, that sure was not my experience,, my Note 4 destroyed the Plus with my indoor camera comparisons (flash on and off and HDR on and off) with video both my N4 and the Plus were set at 1920x1080p (the highest the Plus can record at,,, I wanted to keep it a fair comparison and did not use any video setting above what the Plus is capable off.

I had a long list of how many features and other ways my N4 beat out the Plus,,, but I just wanted to keep this post short.

In my opinion though,,, if your on the fence between the Plus or the Note 4,,,, get the Note 4.

Cheers
Davyo

My experience was the complete opposite. My plus blew away the Note 4 in camera photo quality by a mile. Every photo I took indoors with the 4 was blurry and unusable. Not so with the Plus. Too bad because I really liked the Note's other features. Having a bad camera was not an option for me.

 

[LegalAmerican]

Is your comma button broken on your iPad air 2?

Posted via Samsung Galaxy Note 4

Come on. 10 whole entire posts and you already feel like you can and should make comments like that? Everyone got from the post what was intended in the post. No reason to stir up anything.

 

[LegalAmerican]

I've had the iPhone 6 plus since it was released and recently bought a note 4 at full price as of last night.

I must admit, the note 4 is super nice but the simplicity of the 6 plus is what makes it a win!

The battery on my note 4 isn't as good as my 6 plus. I'm guessing it's because of all the background processes and all the features.

The note 4 almost has too many features!

I think why the iPhone devices are a huge win amongst people is because they spend less time messing with features and options and more time jumping onto the phone and doing what they need to do and being able to jump off. I mean, do I really need to swipe my hand from rofgtnto left to take a screenshot? While this might be nice I don't see myself ever using it.

I don't necessarily see more being better. I see less is better especially when the less is done perfectly like it is on the iphone devices.

Now this doesn't mean I don't like the note 4. I do, it's a solid device. Much better than my HTC 3D from 5 years ago but I'm still messing with all the settings to try and get it to where I want it.

I still think the iPhones are the fastest devices out there when it comes to a UI experience regardless of the specs and hardware. Specs and hardware only matter to an extent. As long as the devices software and code is optimized perfectly a 1gb ram device can be much much faster than a 3gb device. The entire reason why apple is a closed Evo system, for this fact alone.

I'm enjoying the note 4 and plan on keeping it. I can't wait until I'm able to order the gear vr headset when it comes back in stock. That's the sole reason why I bought this device!

*edit*

I also have so much more to play with after reading the abov posts. There's so much on the note 4 that I don't even know what this thing all does. Is there a good feature guide that lives online somewhere?

Also, I didn't mention this but I love the s pen. I have been using it a lot!

So to make sure I understand........

You spend so much time messing with the Note 4 to get it how YOU want it, yet with the iPhone you can't get it to where you want it because it doesn't allow you to personalize or customize the experience? What does the iPhone do out of the box that the Note 4 can't?

That's always my confusion when reading a post like this. The Note 4 will do every single task as efficiently and flawlessly as the iPhone does right out of the box. HOWEVER, options are there for customization if you want it. The same people who hate all the choices and features on Android, would freak if they walked into a restaurant and there was only one or two items on the board. Or if they drove into a new town on vacation and only had one or two restaurants to choose from.

Maybe i'm weird, but choice never scares me. If I don't want to customize, I don't have to and I can still send texts, make calls, and browse the web. People act like you have to root Android and flash a custom rom before it will make a phone call.

 

[Haalcyon]

So to make sure I understand........

You spend so much time messing with the Note 4 to get it how YOU want it, yet with the iPhone you can't get it to where you want it because it doesn't allow you to personalize or customize the experience? What does the iPhone do out of the box that the Note 4 can't?

(Snipped for efficiency)

Maybe i'm weird, but choice never scares me. If I don't want to customize, I don't have to and I can still send texts, make calls, and browse the web. People act like you have to root Android and flash a custom rom before it will make a phone call.

My feeling is always that there are NO android devices I'd want to use out-of-the-box. None. The closer to stock, the worse. I have to be able to customize a lot for an android device to have any real appeal to me. Once I put in that time the result is far more desirable than iOS but ONLY once I've put in that time. I love my S5 and Note 4 because I've tweaked them to my liking but out of the box they were rather bland, like a salad with no toppings or dressing (I realize some love just that).

However, I can somewhat happily live with an iPhone straight out they box. I could do it if I tried. The font Apple chose is reasonably appealing as is the interface. The stock iOS icons are fun and colorful enough (to me).

I think for a lot of people this is the point. You HAVE to put in the time to customize with android. Out of the box it's just...blah. Even the default android font is...blah to me.

With iPhone it may be blah to those of us who've personalized our android phones but for many it's not the overly blah yucky out-the-box experience that stock android is.

Stock android? For me Yuck.
TouchWiz launcher out-of-the-box? Eeeeeew.
Same for HTC and LG's stock interfaces, IMO.

I realize a lot of people covet stock android. They seem like masochists to me but the beauty of android is choice.

 

[billbrobaggins]

I hear ya. Again, not bashing the note 4 at all. It's a device I wanted to own otherwise I wouldn't have spent 700 bucks on it! Haha.

I need the gear vr like ASAP. Where can I get this today!!!

Dude... The Gear VR is really dope, a lot better than almost 100% of the people who tried it thought it would be. I LOVE the VR and I really do think its going to play a huge role in the future of technology. I think you can buy it through AT&T or Samsung direct. I'm not sure if its available in-store or online only but I got mine directly from good ole' Sammy. MJ+VR = Parallel Universe.

My sister got the 6+ for Christmas and I must agree that the phone really does work well straight out of the box. But I cannot say that it performs better than my note 4 (UI Fluidity) running Nova with all of the setting tweaked to my liking. I suppose this is why people really enjoy iPhone's, I would never recommend my parents get an android.

 

[billbrobaggins]

My feeling is always that there are NO android devices I'd want to use out-of-the-box. None. The closer to stock, the worse. I have to be able to customize a lot for an android device to have any real appeal to me. Once I put in that time the result is far more desirable than iOS but ONLY once I've put in that time. I love my S5 and Note 4 because I've tweaked them to my liking but out of the box they were rather bland, like a salad with no toppings or dressing (I realize some love just that).

However, I can somewhat happily live with an iPhone straight out they box. I could do it if I tried. The font Apple chose is reasonably appealing as is the interface. The stock iOS icons are fun and colorful enough (to me).

I think for a lot of people this is the point. You HAVE to put in the time to customize with android. Out of the box it's just...blah. Even the default android font is...blah to me.

With iPhone it may be blah to those of us who've personalized our android phones but for many it's not the overly blah yucky out-the-box experience that stock android is.

Stock android? For me Yuck.
TouchWiz launcher out-of-the-box? Eeeeeew.
Same for HTC and LG's stock interfaces, IMO.

I realize a lot of people covet stock android. They seem like masochists to me but the beauty of android is choice.

Well said. Except I think sense 6.0 is the T's&A of skins.

 

[TheOpusFuller]

So to make sure I understand........
You spend so much time messing with the Note 4 to get it how YOU want it, yet with the iPhone you can't get it to where you want it because it doesn't allow you to personalize or customize the experience? What does the iPhone do out of the box that the Note 4 can't?

I never said the Note 4 can't do what the iPhone can do out of the box. If I did, I apologize, I misspoke. What I am getting at is what the iPhone does out of the box is "work" and it works really, really well. I remember a quote about apple from years ago. Apple got to where they are not by saying YES but by saying NO.

That's always my confusion when reading a post like this. The Note 4 will do every single task as efficiently and flawlessly as the iPhone does right out of the box. HOWEVER, options are there for customization if you want it. The same people who hate all the choices and features on Android, would freak if they walked into a restaurant and there was only one or two items on the board. Or if they drove into a new town on vacation and only had one or two restaurants to choose from.

Not completely accurate. I'll try to explain. If I walk into a Mexican restaurant I expect Mexican food done really, really well. There's a reason when you walk into a restaurant that serves Chinese, Mexican, Indian and Italian food that you walk away ****ting your pants. More options doesn't always mean it's better.

Maybe i'm weird, but choice never scares me. If I don't want to customize, I don't have to and I can still send texts, make calls, and browse the web. People act like you have to root Android and flash a custom rom before it will make a phone call.

I don't think you're weird. You like customization. You like a smorgasbord of things and that's okay. I like having owning a solid device built by a company that made sure every thing that device does works 100%. It's as simple as that.

Does my fingerprint scanner work every single time on my Note 4. No, not all the time. Does my iPhone fingerprint scanner work all the time? 99% of the time yes, and the times it doesn't it's out of user error. I usually have grease or something on my fingers and it's not reading my print. This is the entire point of a closed ecosystem. Apple builds its won software, they build their own chips, they build their own hardware. They make sure all of those components work 100% the way they should work and they have total control of that. Where Android gets tricky and what I never quite understood is you have a company that builds the software (Android / Google) and you have 2,000 companies building hardware with 2,000 different specs. Can't get your audio working properly on your iPhone, let's troubleshoot because we built the software and hardware that effects the audio. Can't get your audio working properly on your Android device? Well, which device is it. The Note 4, The Evo line, etc. Once we figure that out, is it because of the specs? Which chip does it have. Which OS version is it running. Once we figure that out is it because of the skin we put on the OS that isn't playing nice with the device........etc. It gets messy.

Again, not saying Android based phones are bad at all. It's just a different structure, that's all.

In the design world, there's a rhyme and reason behind everything. See that doorknob on that door. It's designed a certain way for a specific reason even if you don't see it. The shape, the size, the curvature. it's all designed to say, this handle turns this way, this is meant to be pulled or pushed, etc.

I don't really care about customization in all honestly. If I feel like an individual that stands out in life because I can change my clock face on my phone..... Please, kick me in the pants. because wether you customize the clock face or the keyboard it does the same exact thing.... tells the "Time" and sends "Texts"

I always said this and will always say this. Android is great if you like to waste time futzing around and customizing your device. It's built for that. iPhones are great if you want to pick up your device, do what you need and jump off.

 

[Haalcyon]

Different philosophies. All I know is that when I pick up my iPhone I can't wait to put it down and pick on my S5 or Note 4. My iPhone seems to be being relegated to music player. It plus a headphone amp and decent headphones sound quite good actually.

 

[LegalAmerican]

I think for a lot of people this is the point. You HAVE to put in the time to customize with android. Out of the box it's just...blah. Even the default android font is...blah to me.

With iPhone it may be blah to those of us who've personalized our android phones but for many it's not the overly blah yucky out-the-box experience that stock android is..

I see what you're saying, but I respectfully disagree. I think the absolute vast majority of people don't care about the customizing. Those of us on this site wouldn't be happy with an Android right out of the box, because we've gotten educated on what options are out there when you do customize. The thing is, the phone makes calls, and sends texts right out of the box with no adjustments needed. People make it sound like it wont even turn on unless you've spent 3 hours fiddling with it.

 

[LegalAmerican]

I always said this and will always say this. Android is great if you like to waste time futzing around and customizing your device. It's built for that. iPhones are great if you want to pick up your device, do what you need and jump off.

The part about getting food poisoning was pretty hilarious. I gotta give you that, I legitimately laughed. That's not really what I meant, but still a great response.

As far as what I quoted above, the problem with an iPhone is it wont do what you jump on it to do, unless you're only sending a text or making a call. My sister just got engaged to a guy who comes from an Apple family. We're talking ipods, ipads, iphones, apple tv, macs, the whole shebang. And yet I swear every time we're all together, I overhear him commenting to her about his frustration that his iPhone can't do something he's wanting to do, and then she hands him her HTC One M8 and he does what he needs to do, and then a few minutes later he's saying how Apple makes the best products out there. I just don't understand it. If you need to do what an iPhone does best, just get a flip phone because they're even MORE reliable and will last longer on one charge.

I've used Apple products many times and aside from the Macs, i've never seen this reliability that everyone says. I love my iPod classic that i've owned for 7 years and it's still running strong, however even that will blast my eardrums on one song, and then I have to crank up the next. That's AFTER i've googled how to make song volumes the same across the whole library, and made those adjustments in iTunes. I know everyone is different, but i've simply never seen this reliability and pleasant experiences that everyone talks about with Apple tech.

 

[Haalcyon]

If you need to do what an iPhone does best, just get a flip phone because they're even MORE reliable and will last longer on one charge.

That is absolutely priceless. I may make that my new signature.

 

[tech_fan]

I use both Android and iOS (I'm typing this post on my new Air 2 right now).

Im both a longtime iPhone and Galaxy phone user.

Just for curiosity I purchased a iPhone 6 Plus to do a little battle with my T-Mobile Note 4,,,, while the Plus does not suck, it could no way keep up with my N4.

Better call quality and way way way better picture and video quality with my N4 than the Plus,,,, I returned the Plus and happily paid the restocking fee.

Matter of fact, the thing that shocked me the most was how much better the N4 camera was compared to the Plus (all my picture and video comparisons were done indoors),,,, also, the instant pixel focus the Plus advertises,,, I sure didn't see it.

Both with video and still shots my Note 4 was way sharper and focused quicker than the Plus,,,, also the Plus video and stills looked washed out and dull compared to my Note 4.

And I've watched the videos on YouTube, Plus camera vs N4 camera and on some of these YouTube videos everything sometimes looks about equal,,,, that sure was not my experience,, my Note 4 destroyed the Plus with my indoor camera comparisons (flash on and off and HDR on and off) with video both my N4 and the Plus were set at 1920x1080p (the highest the Plus can record at,,, I wanted to keep it a fair comparison and did not use any video setting above what the Plus is capable off.

I had a long list of how many features and other ways my N4 beat out the Plus,,, but I just wanted to keep this post short.

In my opinion though,,, if your on the fence between the Plus or the Note 4,,,, get the Note 4.

Cheers
Davyo

Thanks for sharing. My wife got an Iphone 6 plus and I have picked it up a couple of times to look at it. Looks like my old Iphone 5 but a bigger screen. IOS also looks dull and dated.

A couple of times, I have thought about getting the Iphone 6 Plus but its only temporary insanity

 

[androider4ever]

 

[Haalcyon]

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That's not really fair. That just makes it look like the Note 4 kicks the iPhone's @$$. Oh wait....

 

[WeAreAllUnique]

That's not really fair. That just makes it look like the Note 4 kicks the iPhone's @$$. Oh wait....

When it comes to specs it really does. But that's just about the case for any smartphone compared to the Note 4.

 

[Dvoraak]

My feeling is always that there are NO android devices I'd want to use out-of-the-box. None. The closer to stock, the worse. I have to be able to customize a lot for an android device to have any real appeal to me. Once I put in that time the result is far more desirable than iOS but ONLY once I've put in that time. I love my S5 and Note 4 because I've tweaked them to my liking but out of the box they were rather bland, like a salad with no toppings or dressing (I realize some love just that).

However, I can somewhat happily live with an iPhone straight out they box. I could do it if I tried. The font Apple chose is reasonably appealing as is the interface. The stock iOS icons are fun and colorful enough (to me).

I think for a lot of people this is the point. You HAVE to put in the time to customize with android. Out of the box it's just...blah. Even the default android font is...blah to me.

With iPhone it may be blah to those of us who've personalized our android phones but for many it's not the overly blah yucky out-the-box experience that stock android is.

Stock android? For me Yuck.
TouchWiz launcher out-of-the-box? Eeeeeew.
Same for HTC and LG's stock interfaces, IMO.

I realize a lot of people covet stock android. They seem like masochists to me but the beauty of android is choice.

I have to agree completely here. I haven't owned an iPhone since the 4s and I've owned many, many Android phones since but none of those Androids offered anything spectacular out of the box. My 3 favorites are the LG G Flex, the OnePlus One and my current Note 4 but all of them only became great phones after I had put a lot of work into them (launcher, gesture controls, app locks, themes etc). The iPhone may have zero appeal to me, but if I was forced to use a phone out of the box, I'd go for the iPhone every time.