GPS now intermittent?

shaw1234

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I updated to the latest firmware yesterday. I have never had any issues with GPS with my launch day T-Bolt. Now, after the update, when I go into the GPS Status app, the satellites seems to 'drop' out every few seconds. It will connect to 1, then 4, then 8, etc and all of a sudden all disappear as if you just started the application. I read that at least one other person noticed this behavior and commented that their navigation was a little strange as well. Can other check GPS Status and see if they have the satellites coming and going every few seconds? The best I can see is they all show up as connected for 10 seconds at a time. Then it will drop them all and start connecting as if you just turned GPS on. Any ideas or similar experiences?
 
I updated to the latest firmware yesterday. I have never had any issues with GPS with my launch day T-Bolt. Now, after the update, when I go into the GPS Status app, the satellites seems to 'drop' out every few seconds. It will connect to 1, then 4, then 8, etc and all of a sudden all disappear as if you just started the application. I read that at least one other person noticed this behavior and commented that their navigation was a little strange as well. Can other check GPS Status and see if they have the satellites coming and going every few seconds? The best I can see is they all show up as connected for 10 seconds at a time. Then it will drop them all and start connecting as if you just turned GPS on. Any ideas or similar experiences?

my gps is running better then ever, but my phone has been having gps issues and reboot issues sence mr1 so maybe its my time to have some good luck.
 
My GPS is working fine for me after the update. Before the update, I would have to use the GPS Status/Manage A-GPS State trick to get my GPS to lock on in a reasonable amount of time. Now my GPS locks on in under 10 seconds. I just tried GPS Status inside my house, and it went from 1 satellite to 6 in a few seconds. After that, it would cycle between 5 and 6 satellites but never a complete drop out. I'm sure that I will track more satellites when I am outdoors. I will be using the GPS heavily today to map out a trail, so I will find out if I have any GPS problems with the firmware update.
 
I updated to the latest firmware yesterday. I have never had any issues with GPS with my launch day T-Bolt. Now, after the update, when I go into the GPS Status app, the satellites seems to 'drop' out every few seconds. It will connect to 1, then 4, then 8, etc and all of a sudden all disappear as if you just started the application. I read that at least one other person noticed this behavior and commented that their navigation was a little strange as well. Can other check GPS Status and see if they have the satellites coming and going every few seconds? The best I can see is they all show up as connected for 10 seconds at a time. Then it will drop them all and start connecting as if you just turned GPS on. Any ideas or similar experiences?

GPS was a major pain on my phone from day one. I tried some of the GPS apps and they worked OK, but I had to run them every time I wanted to use my GPS.

Now my GPS seems to be working the way it should. I use the Endomondo app for my walks and bike rides, before this OTA it would take a couple minutes to lock on - now it is almost instant!
 
I updated to the latest firmware yesterday. I have never had any issues with GPS with my launch day T-Bolt. Now, after the update, when I go into the GPS Status app, the satellites seems to 'drop' out every few seconds. It will connect to 1, then 4, then 8, etc and all of a sudden all disappear as if you just started the application. I read that at least one other person noticed this behavior and commented that their navigation was a little strange as well. Can other check GPS Status and see if they have the satellites coming and going every few seconds? The best I can see is they all show up as connected for 10 seconds at a time. Then it will drop them all and start connecting as if you just turned GPS on. Any ideas or similar experiences?
This was my issue since launch, GPS Status app would show SATs, then drop then and doe this for minutes, until it finally fixed. Now, my GPS is worked better than ever with my short tests, the GPS Status app locks in a few seconds rather than minutes. MUCH better than before.

I never had the reboot issues, just the GPS sucked, until now.
 
I updated to the latest firmware yesterday. I have never had any issues with GPS with my launch day T-Bolt. Now, after the update, when I go into the GPS Status app, the satellites seems to 'drop' out every few seconds. It will connect to 1, then 4, then 8, etc and all of a sudden all disappear as if you just started the application. I read that at least one other person noticed this behavior and commented that their navigation was a little strange as well. Can other check GPS Status and see if they have the satellites coming and going every few seconds? The best I can see is they all show up as connected for 10 seconds at a time. Then it will drop them all and start connecting as if you just turned GPS on. Any ideas or similar experiences?

I am having exactly the same problem described above since the update. Uninstalling GPS Status didn't fix it. Reinstalling GPS Status didn't fix it. A factory reset didn't fix it. GPS was working fine before. GPS is now essentially unusable.

The huge number of reboots each day were terribly annoying, but I would rather have reboots than a phone without GPS. Wish I hadn't updated! Wish I hadn't switched to Verizon. Their 4G service is fast, but that doesn't matter if their phones don't work.
 
I tried uninstalling GPS Status and reinstalling with no change. It seems this update fixed a lot of people's issues and broke others. I was locking in around 5 seconds since I got the phone, with no issues. Now it's a mess...at least I haven't rebooted yet. Anyone else see this dropping out of satellites? Is it really just two people?
 
My GPS is working way faster, locks in under 10 seconds. I use GPS test and it shows the satellites then they drop out and come back, but has no affect on navigation or maps. GPS works like it should.
 
Navigation works, but not as it should. Navigation may seem to work when stationary or walking, but not in a fast-moving car.

My Thunderbolt has the update installed. My wife's TB does not. Driving with the two phones together clearly shows the problem. The vehicle location marker and navigation maps on her phone update smoothly as the car moves like mine did before the update. The location marker and maps on mine hang and then update sporadically as GPS signals from satellites are repeatedly lost and found again. Those who think GPS is working fine after the update should try using the Navigator app in a fast moving car.
 
For those that say their GPS locks and works great, is that just in the maps app and using navigation? Have you watched the info in GPS status to verify that you lose all satellites every few seconds? I agree with above post. When driving, the arrow icon will be surrounded by a blue circle indicating it lost my location, but it isn't obvious right away unless you watch it as it comes back quickly. GPS status shows what's really going on clearly.
 
For those that say their GPS locks and works great, is that just in the maps app and using navigation? Have you watched the info in GPS status to verify that you lose all satellites every few seconds? I agree with above post. When driving, the arrow icon will be surrounded by a blue circle indicating it lost my location, but it isn't obvious right away unless you watch it as it comes back quickly. GPS status shows what's really going on clearly.

As it turns out, I am seeing the same behavior that you are in GPS status. The first time I tried it this morning, the satellites never dropped out - maybe i didn't wait long enough. Now I am seeing where the satellites go in and out every few seconds. The interesting thing is that it doesn't seem to affect my navigation. I used My Tracks today to map a trail (walking), and it worked perfectly as it did before the update. As a test, I also used Google Navigation on the drive home, and it also worked perfectly. Very strange indeed.
 
So it seems the update definitely is causing GPS to drop out. Whether this affects real world situations is debatable. It does lose me while using navigation, but quickly (within a second or two) picks me back up. So, my take is that it technically is not working as it is supposed to, but in reality it doesn't cause a serious decrease in performance. Does anyone see no drop of all satellites after watching GPS Status for 30 seconds or so? It usually happens to me within 5 seconds, but it would be good to watch it a little longer. Wondering if some people are not having this issue. Might be worth trying a factory reset but I don't want to lose all my game data. I suppose this is better than it not locking at all for many people, but to me this is a downgrade as it always locked on me within 5 seconds or so and would never drop all satellites.
 
Oh, also, I tried using different GPS apps in the market to see if perhaps GPS Status wasn't working right with the changes to the GPS sensor, but every app I tried that reads back the raw data shows the same thing. All satellites intermittently and simultaneously drop out.
 
So it seems the update definitely is causing GPS to drop out. Whether this affects real world situations is debatable. It does lose me while using navigation, but quickly (within a second or two) picks me back up. So, my take is that it technically is not working as it is supposed to, but in reality it doesn't cause a serious decrease in performance. Does anyone see no drop of all satellites after watching GPS Status for 30 seconds or so? It usually happens to me within 5 seconds, but it would be good to watch it a little longer. Wondering if some people are not having this issue. Might be worth trying a factory reset but I don't want to lose all my game data. I suppose this is better than it not locking at all for many people, but to me this is a downgrade as it always locked on me within 5 seconds or so and would never drop all satellites.

Although navigation does work to some extent despite continual GPS signal dropouts, running my updated phone alongside my wife's phone that hasn't been updated clearly demonstrates severe navigation performance degradation (navigation with the two phones was identical before the update). I suspect the people who are reporting improved GPS performance are merely looking at the time required to obtain an initial geographic fix. The update did greatly reduce that time. Someone who only cares about having weather information for the correct city may be happy with the update, but use the Navigator app in a car with an updated phone alongside one that hasn't been updated and you wouldn't want to use the updated phone.

I tried a factory reset, because my phone is new and I had nothing to lose. The factory reset didn't help.
 
I wish I would've paid more attention but I don't think my phone was doing this with the original MR2 that was leaked on June 10th. It is now with the official MR2 update. I did stand outside in the open for a good 10 minutes though with GPS Status open and it seemed to get better at keeping satellites locked in after a little while. Hopefully it just needs a little time to "warm up" and it'll be all good again.
 
My GPS is working fine. Fast location pick up and also navigation while driving works fine. It's not choppy or anything. It hasn't lost me either. Guess I'm lucky.
 
My GPS is working fine. Fast location pick up and also navigation while driving works fine. It's not choppy or anything. It hasn't lost me either. Guess I'm lucky.

+1^^^^^^^^^^^^. Sorry for the others that sucks, the GPS feature is awesome.
 
I need to do more testing to be sure, but I think I have found the problem and an easy solution. The recent update seems to have disabled "Standalone GPS Services." If you are experiencing the problem described in this thread, go to Settings/Location and enable "Standalone GPS Services." Since doing that the GPS Status app no longer keeps repeatedly acquiring and losing satellite signals. I haven't used the Navigator app while driving since discovering this, but based on GPS Status indications I think this probably has fixed the problem.
 

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