H815: More Compatible with T-Mobile or AT&T?

[Murph5150]

I'm on T-Mobile but I'm not getting reception in areas where T-Mobile's website map (inputting an address) claims my reception should be "strong." I called T-Mobile and they opened a trouble ticket.

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[davidnc]

I'm on T-Mobile but I'm not getting reception in areas where T-Mobile's website map (inputting an address) claims my reception should be "strong." I called T-Mobile and they opened a trouble ticket.

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I have been on At&t on the go phone plan with my (H815) G4.I have been testing out their coverage for my area on At&t.
So I have had my vzw nexus 6 with me as well. So far I have had about the same coverage strenght with both carriers/phones(dBm).

 

[dpham00]

I would compare it to signal with other tmobile current high end devices. It is compatible with the primary lte bands on both carriers but lack some secondary.

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[Murph5150]

I thought band 12 was of the primary bands for T-Mobile, specifically being the band best able to penetrate into buildings? The H815 doesn't have that if I'm not mistaken.

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[dpham00]

Re: H815: More Compatible with T-Mobile or AT&T?

I thought band 12 was of the primary bands for T-Mobile, specifically being the band best able to penetrate into buildings? The H815 doesn't have that if I'm not mistaken.

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Band 4 is tmobile primary lte. Band 12 and 2 are secondary. Of course, band 12 could be important depending on where you are though currently band 12 is on limited deployment. Likewise the h815 supports att primary lte band 17,but lacks some att secondary lte bands, which could be important, if they are deployed in your area and you need it.

Even the iPhone 6 and 6p don't have band 12 support, so it is not really a huge deal that the h815 doesn't have it,overall.

Of course if you are in an area with band 12 deployment and inside buildings where you get limited signal then band 12 lte could be important...but if you get good service now where you need it, then no reason to get the tmobile version just for band 12 support.

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[tardus]

Re: H815: More Compatible with T-Mobile or AT&T?

Band 4 is tmobile primary lte. Band 12 and 2 are secondary. Of course, band 12 could be important depending on where you are though currently band 12 is on limited deployment. Likewise the h815 supports att primary lte band 17,but lacks some att secondary lte bands, which could be important, if they are deployed in your area and you need it.

Even the iPhone 6 and 6p don't have band 12 support, so it is not really a huge deal that the h815 doesn't have it,overall.

Of course if you are in an area with band 12 deployment and inside buildings where you get limited signal then band 12 lte could be important...but if you get good service now where you need it, then no reason to get the tmobile version just for band 12 support.

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Very nice reply. I'll add that not only does band 12 have better indoor penetration, but it also travels further distance from the cell tower.

 

[Rukbat]

Re: H815: More Compatible with T-Mobile or AT&T?

The coverage maps are developed by the advertising or marketing departments, they don't actually drive all over the country checking coverage. (Sprint shows solid coverage where my daughter's house is. AT&T and Verizon have solid signals in her house, so it's not something like aluminum siding, but Sprint has absolutely zero signal inside the house.)

You choose your carrier by coverage - if AT&T gives you better coverage (a one month GoPhone card won't cost much), let TMobile know that if they cn't provide coverage where their map claim coverage, you consider it breach of contract and you want your contract canceled without penalty. Then go to AT&T. (If TMobile balks, talk to an attorney - a letter will cost a few dollars, and when they know you're serious, they'll let you out.)

(They're not going to "solve the problem". That would involve at least a new face on one tower, and you don't pay them enough to warrant the expense.)

 

[dpham00]

Re: H815: More Compatible with T-Mobile or AT&T?

Very nice reply. I'll add that not only does band 12 have better indoor penetration, but it also travels further distance from the cell tower.

That's why Verizon implemented band 13 first nationwide... I get verizon 4GLTE in the boonies. But Verizon also has nationwide band 13...the square miles of band 12 that tmobile has is way smaller... Though it does cover most of the major metropolitans.

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[tardus]

Re: H815: More Compatible with T-Mobile or AT&T?

The coverage maps are developed by the advertising or marketing departments, they don't actually drive all over the country checking coverage. (Sprint shows solid coverage where my daughter's house is. AT&T and Verizon have solid signals in her house, so it's not something like aluminum siding, but Sprint has absolutely zero signal inside the house.)

You choose your carrier by coverage - if AT&T gives you better coverage (a one month GoPhone card won't cost much), let TMobile know that if they cn't provide coverage where their map claim coverage, you consider it breach of contract and you want your contract canceled without penalty. Then go to AT&T. (If TMobile balks, talk to an attorney - a letter will cost a few dollars, and when they know you're serious, they'll let you out.)

(They're not going to "solve the problem". That would involve at least a new face on one tower, and you don't pay them enough to warrant the expense.)

I only have experience with T-Mobile and I've found their coverage maps to be very accurate.

 

[skidmark]

Re: H815: More Compatible with T-Mobile or AT&T?

Band 4 is tmobile primary lte. Band 12 and 2 are secondary. Of course, band 12 could be important depending on where you are though currently band 12 is on limited deployment. Likewise the h815 supports att primary lte band 17,but lacks some att secondary lte bands, which could be important, if they are deployed in your area and you need it.

Even the iPhone 6 and 6p don't have band 12 support, so it is not really a huge deal that the h815 doesn't have it,overall.

Of course if you are in an area with band 12 deployment and inside buildings where you get limited signal then band 12 lte could be important...but if you get good service now where you need it, then no reason to get the tmobile version just for band 12 support.

Sent from my Pearly White Verizon Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge

Thanks for this explanation.

This is probably why when I had a Pure Edition Moto X next to a carrier Moto X (both on ATT) the PE Moto X had no signal vs the carrier MotoX inside of a building. It's the lack of the other bands.