How are YOU killling apps? Or do you leave em alone?

[droidntn]

There used to be a sticky about this and I was gonna put it there, but I don't see it now.
I just did a factory reset and am watching resources very closely. I have been killing, in settings, (not ATK) things I simply don't use that I can't manually remove from stock. Things like Skype, Quick office,(Use backup assistant, but would like more choices on how often it backs up, don't need it backed up everyday.
Now, ahem, SOME folks here swear that you should just leave your Droid alone and let it mind it's own business. I was curious and doing that after a factory reset, my droid was down to like 10-11% Ram left in about 30 minutes. All this native junk loaded onto the Droid X completely defeats the purpose of having a fast 1 gHz processor.
Yes, we need to bear in mind this is a PHONE, not a CAMERA or a PDA. And processing power would be limited to what a phone, albeit "smartphone", can do. Still, it appears we have a few choices here:
#1..root,
#2..live with it,
#3..every 30 minutes or so manually kill tasks from bloatware that big red stuck in my phone that are bogging it down.

My Droid X is the most magnificent piece of cellular machinery I've ever owned. And in some weird way, I feel sorry for it that it is having to carry all this "electronic weight" when it simply can't do it effectively.
Since it is 'recommended' to leave your Droid alone and not ATK and let it kill it's own processess, I'm confused.
Leaving it to it's own decisions is about like turning my 3 teenagers loose with a 100.00....it doesn't know how to effectively use what it's been given.
I can kill off junk and it'll go back to 25-37% that is what it boots up with.

So, how are you guys killing these things and getting some good use out of your phone without it bogging to 10-11% available in 30 minutes or an hour?

 

[packerbacker]

When I had Droids (1 and 2s), I had ATK and would use them all the time. Since the Fascinate has a Task Killer on it, I just use that, and battery seems to be fine. (I also had JuiceDefender on my Droids and it doesn't work on my Fascinate, but I don't need it.)

Other battery savers: turning down screen brightness, not using Live Wallpapers, etc. Check your battery usage to see if any apps you have are major battery hogs (because some of them are). If they aren't apps you desperately need, get rid of them. For example, on my Droid 2, if I used Swype and not the stock keyboard it drained the battery faster, so I didn't use it too often.

 

[mflynn]

There is no real such thing as "electronic weight" Those apps that vzw includes and starts up, don't really consume any resources as android is quite efficient at managing resources.

Also the DX has more storage/ram then most other phones so the inclusion of those apps matter little to me. I don't see myself running out of storage/ram any time soon.

To that end, I don't use ay task killer to manage those apps, and I don't root.

Many people who rooted their phones, and removed the stock apps, ran into a lot problems trying to upgrade to 2.2 I don't plan to increase the odds of having issues down the road, especially when removing those apps doesn't make any material difference in my phone's operation.

 

[droidntn]

and I don't root.

Many people who rooted their phones, and removed the stock apps, ran into a lot problems trying to upgrade to 2.2 I don't plan to increase the odds of having issues down the road, especially when removing those apps doesn't make any material difference in my phone's operation.

Exactly, that's why I don't either.

 

[Clemsonpablo]

Android can manage this crapware all it wants, but that completely ignores the fact that I don't want it on my phone, and I don't want/need it memory resident. Just to ignore it is a stupid solution.

 

[tntdroid]

I let them run. On the droid I used atk but found myself hitting the kill widget all day. I bet the auto start programs restarting killed my battery more. I had it on the X for the fisrt week and then deleted it. Did not see a need for it. As for the junk apps root can take care of that if you want to go that way.

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[mflynn]

I bet the auto start programs restarting killed my battery more.

It does, as the cpu is working harder at restarting those processes over and over. The effects are that the battery does not last as long

 

[grayzweb]

I don't use task killers either.

I am rooted and but I have Not removed any bloat, just run custom roms. I can go back to my backup rom anytime.

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[Clemsonpablo]

I guess part of my issue with the bloatware is that we've already seen included programs being poorly coded and causing crashes. Why do i need to add to the chance of crashing when I don't want this crap running in the first place?

 

[NegativeCreep]

I don't use any task killers. I have LauncherPro+. I used their "swipe" function so that when I swipe over the button to open the App drawer, it brings me to the Running Applications settings. There I can shut down running applications that I don't need open, like the stock moto widgets, Skype, etc. I regularly pull 1450 on Quadrant since the upgrade to 2.2.

 

[sprke81]

I've never used a task killer to mange memory and I've never had any problems. I do have a task killer but only use it to kill stubborn apps that are causing problems.

 

[greydarrah]

I don't actively do anything, but I'm rooted and use AutoKiller to keep my free mem at around 100 meg (it jut tells tells the OS what the available mem should be and lets the OS decide what to close), and I use Titanium Backup (donate version) to freeze some of the bloat I don't need to run (like CityID, Amazon, VZNav, blah, blah, blah).

 

[droidntn]

So, specifically, what are you guys killing manually?

 

[jerparker]

When I was on 2.1 I used Task Manager only to kill the browser and facebook. All other apps I put on the ignore list. I miss being able to kill these 2 apps. I'm thinking about rooting but I'm scared I will mess my phone up!

So, specifically, what are you guys killing manually?

 

[pyroelite]

Don't waste time killing any apps manually... I have gone in to kill some annoying services from apps that magically start by themselves, and generally end up uninstalling the app all together. If the author isn't smart enough to keep the app out of memory when it's not needed or even been started, it's prob not worth keeping in the first place. At least imho...

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[droidntn]

Oh, I'm not talking about our addon apps, I'm talking about the native apps, the 'bloatware' that comes with the X.
Which ones are you guys killing?
i wish we could just sort em and kill em. I just went in and killed a bunch of junk I don't need that red included (and I can't delete, like City ID and Social networking)and my RAM went from 9 to 27% avaialable.
That's insane.

 

[thirdeye7]

You can use System Panel to kill apps on froyo.....its not automated but if an app is acting up you can end it.

On another note, I always wonder the ages of people who cry about bloat. If it bothers u, root and get rid of it.And if ur thinking "I shouldn't have to".....u really didn't have to buy the phone. it kills me, all the whining....esp when most of you bought the phone at the subsidized price. If you pay retail you have more of a point. But even then if u hate it ago much, buy cricket or boost....i hear they have little bloat.

 

[Dural]

Repost from that other thread. How to make a process-killer shortcut on your device. Really simple:

Its simple to use the built in process manager already onboard. Here's how to place a shortcut for it:

1) Press and hold homescreen
2) Shortcuts
3) Scroll down to Settings
4) Select Running services
5) Viola...

If you're using LP (as I do) you can take it even a few steps farther. Rename the shortcut and change the icon to whatever you want it to be. LP icons has a great greyscale skull/crossbones icon I use for mine. On LP, you can also designate one of the dock functions to serve as this process manager.

Open the settings shortcut and take a look at what's running. In general DO NOT kill things you don't understand/recognize. Also, don't kill processes that are native to Moto UNLESS you know you don't use those widgets. For example, I don't use the NewsFeed from Moto and kill it off happily. Ditto the Social updating. Skype, GTalk are all common kills for me. Don't touch the calendar, the weather, or any other native functions. See that Pandora is still running in the background? Kill it. You get the idea...

Processes I frequently kill that like to run in the background on my device:

Social Feed (2 of them, stock Moto)
News Feed (stock Moto)
GTalk
Skype

As for bloatware, remember you can hide any apps you don't want to see if you're using LauncherPro. This does NOT uninstall them, but they are hidden from view and out of sight.

P.S. That racing game that came with Froyo CAN be uninstalled.