How much access does Google have to your N5?

[NoYankees44]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

They have and use your data.

 

[alexlam24]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

Yeah but if it weren't for the patriot act it would be protected under the 4th Amendment.

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Then just stop using the internet in the first place. Lol

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[mrsmumbles]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

Then just stop using the internet in the first place. Lol

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Yes I know. I don't care as far as what I'm doing, I care more in principle.

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[alexlam24]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

Yes I know. I don't care as far as what I'm doing, I care more in principle.

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Friendship is magic. That's why the NSA is looking at you

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[mrsmumbles]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

Friendship is magic. That's why the NSA is looking at you

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Heh. No... I don't know if they're looking at me still, but the police were last winter. It's a long story. Anyway, I'm not involved in anything illegal. But they are looking at ordinary people a lot more than they admit to. That's not Google's fault though. That's the NSA, and the patriot act.

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[LegalAmerican]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

Thats a very concise statement to answer OP's question.

I would not trust a company's so called "model", whatever that is. A company is in it to make money, there is no "moral boundary" for them, they can claim anything, many people will trust them. I will not.

That's fair. I'm not saying I "trust" them in the same way that I "trust" my wife. Or my family. I'm saying I trust them in comparison to the way some people view them and wonder how much power and control they have and use. I don't feel that they would risk their billions of dollars that would surely be lost when they started locking down our devices and wiping them clean or stealing all of our information. I don't feel like the stuff they'd obtain would be worth it to them. Unless they REALLY need my text messages asking my family what they want to do for Christmas.

And you're right. Companies are in it to make money. Which is exactly what they're doing. I don't think they suddenly change that plan just so they can control my N5. And lose that money.

 

[Rule9]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

If you're concerned about this there's several things you should be doing but as a smartphone user probably won't.

• delete all social networking accounts. Not deactivate. Delete (where possible)
• Use browsers like Tor (not available to smartphones though)
• Sign up for a VPN service (ProXPN comes highly recommended) for both home network and mobile
• Stop using web based email services like Gmail, Outlook, Yahoo etc.
• Stop using web based cloud accounts like Drive, Dropbox, etc

 

[mrsmumbles]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

That's fair. I'm not saying I "trust" them in the same way that I "trust" my wife. Or my family. I'm saying I trust them in comparison to the way some people view them and wonder how much power and control they have and use. I don't feel that they would risk their billions of dollars that would surely be lost when they started locking down our devices and wiping them clean or stealing all of our information. I don't feel like the stuff they'd obtain would be worth it to them. Unless they REALLY need my text messages asking my family what they want to do for Christmas.

And you're right. Companies are in it to make money. Which is exactly what they're doing. I don't think they suddenly change that plan just so they can control my N5. And lose that money.

There's always the chance an employee could flip out and stalk someone they don't even know (or someone they do know).

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[LegalAmerican]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

There's always the chance an employee could flip out and stalk someone they don't even know (or someone they do know).

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That's certainly the truth. But I can't even imagine running through all the scenarios in my head of what COULD happen at any given time.

 

[mrsmumbles]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

That's certainly the truth. But I can't even imagine running through all the scenarios in my head of what COULD happen at any given time.

Heheh. In my life so much weird stuff has happened I tend to think of the worst things that could happen so I'll be "prepared" if they do. You just have to be careful the scenarios don't become self fulfilling prophecies.

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[Aquila]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

One big misconception that got posted in this thread again... Google's "sale" of your data to advertisers. Google does NOT sell your data. Advertisers send them ads, Google aggregates data and Google connects those two separate things INTERNALLY and chooses which ads are directed to individuals based on their behavioral patterns. At no point in any of this is Google handing a package of your data off to any other company. That's a pretty big distinction, because it's not the same thing as what Apple and Microsoft do, in addition to the Credit Bureaus, just about every retail store that wants your phone number, e-mail address or asks you to sign up for anything (newsletter, sweepstakes, online access to your account, etc).

 

[clevin]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

One big misconception that got posted in this thread again... Google's "sale" of your data to advertisers. Google does NOT sell your data. Advertisers send them ads, Google aggregates data and Google connects those two separate things INTERNALLY and chooses which ads are directed to individuals based on their behavioral patterns. At no point in any of this is Google handing a package of your data off to any other company. That's a pretty big distinction, because it's not the same thing as what Apple and Microsoft do, in addition to the Credit Bureaus, just about every retail store that wants your phone number, e-mail address or asks you to sign up for anything (newsletter, sweepstakes, online access to your account, etc).

You are saying google does not share users data to third party, they just take money from third party and distribute their ads according to users data.

First, I am not really sure how you know this, and how sure you are that data never gets into third party's hand.

Second, from what you said, google not merely "collect" users data, but also "aggregates and analyze" behavior patterns. That sounds really bad to me.

 

[Aquila]

Re: How much access does google have to your N5?

You are saying google does not share users data to third party, they just take money from third party and distribute their ads according to users data.

First, I am not really sure how you know this, and how sure you are that data never gets into third party's hand.

Second, from what you said, google not merely "collect" users data, but also "aggregates and analyze" behavior patterns. That sounds really bad to me.

The second part is how it works and is their actual product offering to those that pay them (advertisers). We generally do not pay Google with revenue, connecting us to businesses is their product.
To the first part, that's what their privacy policy details. Of course, we have little choice but to either trust that they're keeping their word or decline to use their services, but the entire ethos of Google is fairly well built around the differentiation in data usage.

AdSense is the primary service of Google for revenue generation, and by far the most commonly used engine to deliver ads on the web, through mobile, search results and video. Any site can use AdSense for free and they're paid to do so, the advertiser pays based on the delivery and success of their ads.

Basically the way it works, you create space for an ad on your site or in your app, video, etc. Google determines based on your site and the users coming to the site which ads have the highest chance of generating the most sales for you and displays that ad. You do have some control over what types of ads appear on your site, and you get to track what is being shown, what's being clicked on and connect it to your BI tools to see the direct impact on customer generation. You don't ever get your customer's details sent to you by Google.

 

[anon(50597)]

That's fair. I'm not saying I "trust" them in the same way that I "trust" my wife. Or my family. I'm saying I trust them in comparison to the way some people view them and wonder how much power and control they have and use. I don't feel that they would risk their billions of dollars that would surely be lost when they started locking down our devices and wiping them clean or stealing all of our information. I don't feel like the stuff they'd obtain would be worth it to them. Unless they REALLY need my text messages asking my family what they want to do for Christmas.

And you're right. Companies are in it to make money. Which is exactly what they're doing. I don't think they suddenly change that plan just so they can control my N5. And lose that money.

I feel the same way. I don't fear Google. I use their services in exchange for them throwing advertisements my way which I ignore. Their ecosystem is functional and makes my life easier. For now, at least, they have me as a customer.