Huawei overtakes apple sales.

[orangecroc]

So it's now;
Samsung
Huawei
Apple

 

[Aquila]

Article link:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/6/16259810/huawei-apple-global-smartphone-sales

Appears to be a flaw in the data.

 

[dpham00]

What flaw?

 

[Dconn1975]

They will be number one in three to four years. Once they crack the US market they will take over the top spot.

 

[Morty2264]

Wait, so this is a false article? I was so excited for a minute there!

 

[dpham00]

Wait, so this is a false article? I was so excited for a minute there!

It isn't false AFAIK.

 

[Morty2264]

It isn't false AFAIK.

Wahoo!!

 

[Aquila]

What flaw?

In that Counterpoint Research and IDC data do not agree. So according to Counterpoint, Huawei passed Apple, yet according to IDC figures, Apple remains in second. I don't know how reliable Counterpoint is though, prior to this article I'd never heard of them. There's no description of how their data was gathered, etc. so it's not easy to reconcile the two sets of figures. Counterpoint could be correct; I just don't see a way for us to determine if they are or not.

 

[dpham00]

In that Counterpoint Research and IDC data do not agree. So according to Counterpoint, Huawei passed Apple, yet according to IDC figures, Apple remains in second. I don't know how reliable Counterpoint is though, prior to this article I'd never heard of them. There's no description of how their data was gathered, etc. so it's not easy to reconcile the two sets of figures. Counterpoint could be correct; I just don't see a way for us to determine if they are or not.

They are also different time periods...so it's possible both are right.

 

[orangecroc]

The figures are based on month to month sales, and Apple are likely to get their spot back once the new devices are released this month or next.

 

[Morty2264]

In that Counterpoint Research and IDC data do not agree. So according to Counterpoint, Huawei passed Apple, yet according to IDC figures, Apple remains in second. I don't know how reliable Counterpoint is though, prior to this article I'd never heard of them. There's no description of how their data was gathered, etc. so it's not easy to reconcile the two sets of figures. Counterpoint could be correct; I just don't see a way for us to determine if they are or not.

As someone who studied social sciences in University, I too like knowing sample sizes, the number of people surveyed, from where the survey took place and how the data was collected, etc. It is comforting to know that Apple can be overtaken, however.

 

[dpham00]

The figures are based on month to month sales, and Apple are likely to get their spot back once the new devices are released this month or next.

Most definitely Apple will overtake there number two spot once the new iPhones start selling. But this is still impressive in that Huawei wasn't able to do this in previous years even looking at this lull in the iPhone before the new one comes out

 

[vtua]

The article also discusses a point about "none of Huawei’s phones appear on the Top 10 list." A very interesting point to think about.

 

[dpham00]

The article also discusses a point about "none of Huawei’s phones appear on the Top 10 list." A very interesting point to think about.

Yup, the article does talk about that
" “While Huawei has trimmed its portfolio, it likely needs to further streamline its product range like Oppo and Xiaomi have done — putting more muscle behind fewer products.”""

 

[vtua]

Yup, the article does talk about that
" “While Huawei has trimmed its portfolio, it likely needs to further streamline its product range like Oppo and Xiaomi have done — putting more muscle behind fewer products.”""

It is not quite the same point though. I think what the author is trying to say is that Huawei's product line is currently composed of a large number of not-that-good phones. And in order to grow more organically they have to both (i) trim the offering and (ii) improve the quality.

 

[dpham00]

It is not quite the same point though. I think what the author is trying to say is that Huawei's product line is currently composed of a large number of not-that-good phones. And in order to grow more organically they have to both (i) trim the offering and (ii) improve the quality.

I would agree with the first one... But i don't think that the article means the second.

 

[vtua]

@dpham00: How else would you explain the fact that none of their phones is among the top-10?
It clearly means to me that, as compared to competition, Huawei phones do not offer the quality that deserves a top spot. Author's metaphor regarding "putting more muscle" means to me improvement of the quality, i.e. hardware, UI, appearance, and overall customer experience, to be able to differentiate themselves.

 

[dpham00]

@dpham00: How else would you explain the fact that none of their phones are among the top-10?
It clearly means to me that, as compared to competition, Huawei phones do not offer the quality that deserves a top spot. Author's metaphor regarding "putting more muscle" means to me improvement of the quality, i.e. hardware, UI, and overall customer experience, to be able to differentiate themselves.

My understanding is that it is saying that Huawei is having too many phones in their portfolio with no champion phone...and that they are suggesting that Huawei put it's muscle behind one or two devices to really sell those.

 

[vtua]

Exactly. The problem is that the quality is currently distributed across too many products. And simple elimination of some of those products (without concentration of the quality in the remaining) would not do the trick of landing a spot in the top-10 ranking. It is not as simple as taking one's phone sales and putting that into the sales bucket of another one's of the same company.

 

[orangecroc]

Exactly. The problem is that the quality is currently distributed across too many products. And simple elimination of some of those products (without concentration of the quality in the remaining) would not do the trick of landing a spot in the top-10 ranking. It is not as simple as taking one's phone sales and putting that into the sales bucket of another one's of the same company.

I think you're wrong. They have really strong phones, I think the suggestion is that they put more into the promotion of a smaller line.