ICS On HTC Rezound

[twolastnames]

I'm actually curious what they can do. Hate sense or love it, ICS stole some things from it. The camera, lock screen, maybe some other stuff (have not played with ICS yet). I would use sense if it had just two extra features, re-sizable widgets, and not limit icon to 4x4. The sense widgets all work really well. And I've said it before, vanilla gingerbread sucks. I mean sucks. Lots of dudes talk about vanilla android, but I'm wondering if they are just talking custom AOSP, cm7 etc. CM is getting to be quite large as well isn't it, but nobody is complaining about that. Also, vanilla doesn't include a home screen replacement. Even Zeam adds quite a lot of improved functionality over vanilla.

If HTC can improve and push vanilla ICS like they did up to 2.3, we might all be singing a different tune. I'm not sure if they can develop any better than some of the creative talent the custom rom makers have shown, but who knows until we see it. Plus, I wonder how much bloated manufacture skins have led to the insane pace of hardware evolution. If we were all rocking windows phones and iPhones, we may be barely scratching 1ghz processors right now.

 

[Droid800]

I'm actually curious what they can do. Hate sense or love it, ICS stole some things from it. The camera, lock screen, maybe some other stuff (have not played with ICS yet). I would use sense if it had just two extra features, re-sizable widgets, and not limit icon to 4x4. The sense widgets all work really well. And I've said it before, vanilla gingerbread sucks. I mean sucks. Lots of dudes talk about vanilla android, but I'm wondering if they are just talking custom AOSP, cm7 etc. CM is getting to be quite large as well isn't it, but nobody is complaining about that. Also, vanilla doesn't include a home screen replacement. Even Zeam adds quite a lot of improved functionality over vanilla.

If HTC can improve and push vanilla ICS like they did up to 2.3, we might all be singing a different tune. I'm not sure if they can develop any better than some of the creative talent the custom rom makers have shown, but who knows until we see it. Plus, I wonder how much bloated manufacture skins have led to the insane pace of hardware evolution. If we were all rocking windows phones and iPhones, we may be barely scratching 1ghz processors right now.

At this point anything HTC adds to ICS will make it worse not better. (camera interface is probably the sole exception) Vanilla is good enough now that overlays are a hindrance, not a benefit.


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[humpagardengnome]

I imagine most all phones are heading to dual core.. so that might make Sense more viable.

They'll continue w/ single core devices for awhile to come. Meeting price points dictates some peoples purchases.

But I can't understand why anyone would buy an HTC phone and complain about Sense.. its like buying a tennis racket and complaing it has holes..

Did you bother reading any of the earlier posts from today? I think they answered the above question quite well.

 

[VidJunky]

Regardless of sense or not, after owning the Inc and receiving the GB update, I will be a late adopter this time. Last update killed the phone I saw no improvement to anything if there were any. I happen to be on the pro sense side of the fence so I don't think I'd be too happy if it went away. The thing that sucks is once you say ok you're stuck. I'm not unlocking unless something catastrophic happens.

 

[humpagardengnome]

Regardless of sense or not, after owning the Inc and receiving the GB update, I will be a late adopter this time. Last update killed the phone I saw no improvement to anything if there were any. I happen to be on the pro sense side of the fence so I don't think I'd be too happy if it went away. The thing that sucks is once you say ok you're stuck. I'm not unlocking unless something catastrophic happens.

That's a smart gameplan, I have to think that will cross the minds of more than a few people before they accept the update, given the track records of OEMs w/ their OTAs.

 

[Wanda]

I'm not unlocking unless something catastrophic happens.

Prepare to unlock

Seriously though...I unlocked mine within the first 10 minutes I had it out of the box. I'm taking the same approach with this as I took with the Inc...root it, make a nandroid backup (just in case), debloat it/flash a ROM.

I find it easier to wait for a dev to incorporate what ever update gets sent out into their ROM where at least I can restore back to something else later if it turns out the update stinks rather than let the OTA ruin my device with no hope of ever getting it back the way it was.

Really for that reason alone, making a complete backup, rooting is the only way to go in my opinion...even if you don't end up flashing ROM's and tinkering, at least you can have a safe backup ready to restore at a moments notice.

 

[humpagardengnome]

Prepare to unlock

Seriously though...I unlocked mine within the first 10 minutes I had it out of the box. I'm taking the same approach with this as I took with the Inc...root it, make a nandroid backup (just in case), debloat it/flash a ROM.

I find it easier to wait for a dev to incorporate what ever update gets sent out into their ROM where at least I can restore back to something else later if it turns out the update stinks rather than let the OTA ruin my device with no hope of ever getting it back the way it was.

Really for that reason alone, making a complete backup, rooting is the only way to go in my opinion...even if you don't end up flashing ROM's and tinkering, at least you can have a safe backup ready to restore at a moments notice.

I wish more users lost the fear of carrier consequences and saw it this way. Just by unlocking and backing up. Thousands of frustrated oem users could avoid countless hours of hemming and hawing about how crappy the update & being stuck w/ it. It's nice to know that you don't have to deal w/ whatever the OTA brings til your confident it will not cheapen the user experience. I don't think you can see the true beauty of AOSP if you don't.

 

[VidJunky]

Yeah, why does backup technology suck so bad? What good is a backup that doesn't save anything? All your data, settings, and user input lost. Personally I'm not understanding why one would have to root for such privileges, as if people didn't already have enough reasons to root.

 

[boomerbsg]

They'll continue w/ single core devices for awhile to come. Meeting price points dictates some peoples purchases.

But to people like us.. the tech savy crowd, single cores are out, and any next upgrade from a current single core droid we own will likely be multi core...

you bother reading any of the earlier posts from today? I think they answered the above question quite well.

Yes I did.. and I mean it.. I purchased my phone knowing full well what Sense was/is, good and bad. I did not purchase my rezound based on the hope a random dev would fix my phone to my liking, I myself have had no lag what so ever with this phone and sense.. and my experience with sense has been good over all.

What I remarked about wasn't actually geared towards any one person in this thread, but I often read "just got my new htc, can't wait to get rid of sense, I hate it etc etc" ..

Cheers.

 

[VidJunky]

But to people like us.. the tech savy crowd, single cores are out, and any next upgrade from a current single core droid we own will likely be multi core...

I would tend to agree with statements like this, and I know I'm a little behind on my subscription so this is old news, but Pentium announced they're throwing their hat in the smart phone ring with a super fast single core. No word if they'll skin it. See what I saw here. So what does this mean?

 

[humpagardengnome]

But to people like us.. the tech savy crowd, single cores are out, and any next upgrade from a current single core droid we own will likely be multi core...

That's the great thing about android, fragmentation/differentiation, love it hate it, whatever name you slap on it. It encompasses the gamut of smartphones user needs and it's just improving as time goes on. All the fish in the ponds get fed.

Yes I did.. and I mean it.. I purchased my phone knowing full well what Sense was/is, good and bad. I did not purchase my rezound based on the hope a random dev would fix my phone to my liking, I myself have had no lag what so ever with this phone and sense.. and my experience with sense has been good over all.

What I remarked about wasn't actually geared towards any one person in this thread, but I often read "just got my new htc, can't wait to get rid of sense, I hate it etc etc" ..

Cheers.

I get what you were saying, believe me I don't enjoy reading posts when people are whining about how horrible Sense is who purchased a skinned HTC product. I switch back to stock all the time, I just enjoy the variety that devs offer to android users. I was really alluding to the fact Sense hasn't changed all that much since 2.0, it's just outgrown it's britches in terms of the space it takes up on a phone. Sense is far and away the best oem skin in the biz, it's just become to super sized for some peoples liking. If Sense fits your needs, beautiful. If you bought for the hardware for experimentations in the dev community, beautiful. There's room for everyone to do what they want w/ their devices. That's all I meant by that, not to criticize or anything.

 

[trob6969]

But to people like us.. the tech savy crowd, single cores are out, and any next upgrade from a current single core droid we own will likely be multi core...


Yes I did.. and I mean it.. I purchased my phone knowing full well what Sense was/is, good and bad. I did not purchase my rezound based on the hope a random dev would fix my phone to my liking, I myself have had no lag what so ever with this phone and sense.. and my experience with sense has been good over all.

What I remarked about wasn't actually geared towards any one person in this thread, but I often read "just got my new htc, can't wait to get rid of sense, I hate it etc etc" ..

Cheers.

i agree. All i read about sense is that it slowed down htc phones. I've never owned an htc phone until now so i didn't know. So when i bought my rezound i was very surprised that regardless of it having sense, it's not just fast but VERY fast in performing all its functions! Almost instantaneously fast! I understand that due to ics the galaxy nexus camera is extremely fast, but i found that the rezound's camera is extremely fast without ics! The rezound is a beast of a phone right-out-the-box running android 2.3.4 so if 4.0 is as good and fast as people claim, imagine how much more powerful the rezound will be once it gets the upgrade.

 

[trob6969]

And this is why the Sense update to ICS won't make the Rezound "better" than the Nexus. It'll still look like the same Sense UI phone. If you love the look and feel of ICS the only way you can get that is with the Nexus or another phone running AOSP ROM. Even when skinned phones get updated.

The rezound right-out-the-box is ALREADY better than the galaxy nexus just based on hardware specs: processing power (cpu AND gpu), display sharpness and rendering accuracy, sd slot, audio capability and speaker volume, camera set, and ergonomics! Other than ics and NFC support, what advantage does the galaxy nexus have over the rezound?

 

[budmonster]

There a few pure ICS 4.0.3 roms already out for the Rezound. They should be bug free very soon. I'm was running ICS 4.0.3, very smooth, but ICS is too naked for me, its boring. So I installed Sense 3.6 w/ ICS 4.0.1 and Sense and I like the comination that HTC put out. I hope they change a few things with it before they make it final. I feel the Rezound had the Nexus beat with hardware specs now with the same software it IS the best phone on vzw, I had the nexus for 3 wks

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[humpagardengnome]

The rezound right-out-the-box is ALREADY better than the galaxy nexus just based on hardware specs: processing power (cpu AND gpu), display sharpness and rendering accuracy, sd slot, audio capability and speaker volume, camera set, and ergonomics! Other than ics and NFC support, what advantage does the galaxy nexus have over the rezound?

Uh-oh, there goes the neighborhood. I hope the perusing Nexus regulars don't read this ^one. It's been quite peaceful around here lately since the Rez vs GN thread got bumped to page 2..

 

[VidJunky]

Uh-oh, there goes the neighborhood. I hope the perusing Nexus regulars don't read this ^one. It's been quite peaceful around here lately since the Rez vs GN thread got bumped to page 2..

Are Rezound owners trolling the GN forums like all these GN owners are trolling other forums? I pointed out some issues on an Inc forum and got a nasty reply from a GN owner. I squashed that by posting links to the very issues I was referring to posted on the GN's own forum. They replied but couldn't argue.

 

[TBolt]

GNex owners do seem more in-your-face defensive than usual. What ticks me off is that all those bloggers with preview units ignored some pretty obvious bugs.

The volume issue was soooo obvious in the Verizon store.

I hope they get their patch soon so they can chill out. I gave the GNex at least 40 minutes of hand time before buying and am extremely happy with the overall package I have in this Rezound.

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