Interesting read - thoughts? "Stock Android"

[anon(10388027)]

Blog writers Jobs are to get people to click on their articles. Like the gun industry, mobile reviews are never negative... It's part of an industry effort to remove the next dollar from your pocket... Get you to buy something.

No blog writer who gushes about "pure android experience" will define what a pure android experience is.

Let's be honest, Android OS is nothing more than the features and options you have on your phone: from setting sound volume, display resolution, & WiFi to turning gesture controls on or off. It's the nuts and bolts, or control room for your phone.

Day in day out, we run apps. Android OS takes most of our time on phone set up, then there is very little else most users do with OS... Most of us don't obsess over android sub menu shadings...

The CPU power and RAM in today's phones negates the ten year old argument about bloatware. Hardware and storage has cought up to any concerns about bloatware. Your carrier network, or home WiFi speed, has your biggest impact on phone performance.

Samsung has had many gesture controls, and now Android P adds more. Many features in the Samsung experience become standard in later Android OS versions.

Does Android OS even matter? More than six months since Android 8.0 and 8.1 Oreo release... Marshmallow is still #1 , at 25.5%, then Nougat at about 22%, and Oero is only used by just under 5% of users.

Android OS doesn't matter! The world has not ended for those using Marshmallow! There is nothing crucial about Oreo if you don't use it.... And now P is arriving soon!

Let those who wish to obsess about the sub menu's that control your phone do so... It's a minority of users... But a vocal minority online.

Bloggers push the Pixel as being so great... But the truth is only 3.9 million Pixel phones were sold last year! It is intellectually a lie to claim the Pixel is competition for Apple or Samsung! Maybe one day.... But not today.

Pixel sold 3.9 million phones last year, which is less than a weeks sales for either Apple or Samsung.

What is somewhat important are monthly security patch updates.... But even there... The Android world is not besieged by a Ig hacking problem... Most found vulnerabilities require physical access to a phone. Don't download from anywhere but Google play store or Samsung store... Don't side load jailbroken stuff (you have no idea what is in the code), and use strong passwords.

The 'pure android experience' is a nothing burger in 2018.... It's a meaningless expression that is only used to push Pixel phone sales... And given 3.9 million units sold last year... Consumers aren't buying the argument about the experience, and more importantly, aren't buying the Pixel hardware compromises.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

Re: Interesting read - thoughts? "Stock Android"

Blog writers Jobs are to get people to click on their articles. Like the gun industry, mobile reviews are never negative... It's part of an industry effort to remove the next dollar from your pocket... Get you to buy something.

No blog writer who gushes about "pure android experience" will define what a pure android experience is.

Let's be honest, Android OS is nothing more than the features and options you have on your phone: from setting sound volume, display resolution, & WiFi to turning gesture controls on or off. It's the nuts and bolts, or control room for your phone.

Day in day out, we run apps. Android OS takes most of our time on phone set up, then there is very little else most users do with OS... Most of us don't obsess over android sub menu shadings...

The CPU power and RAM in today's phones negates the ten year old argument about bloatware. Hardware and storage has cought up to any concerns about bloatware. Your carrier network, or home WiFi speed, has your biggest impact on phone performance.

Samsung has had many gesture controls, and now Android P adds more. Many features in the Samsung experience become standard in later Android OS versions.

Does Android OS even matter? More than six months since Android 8.0 and 8.1 Oreo release... Marshmallow is still #1 , at 25.5%, then Nougat at about 22%, and Oero is only used by just under 5% of users.

Android OS doesn't matter! The world has not ended for those using Marshmallow! There is nothing crucial about Oreo if you don't use it.... And now P is arriving soon!

Let those who wish to obsess about the sub menu's that control your phone do so... It's a minority of users... But a vocal minority online.

Bloggers push the Pixel as being so great... But the truth is only 3.9 million Pixel phones were sold last year! It is intellectually a lie to claim the Pixel is competition for Apple or Samsung! Maybe one day.... But not today.

Pixel sold 3.9 million phones last year, which is less than a weeks sales for either Apple or Samsung.

What is somewhat important are monthly security patch updates.... But even there... The Android world is not besieged by a Ig hacking problem... Most found vulnerabilities require physical access to a phone. Don't download from anywhere but Google play store or Samsung store... Don't side load jailbroken stuff (you have no idea what is in the code), and use strong passwords.

The 'pure android experience' is a nothing burger in 2018.... It's a meaningless expression that is only used to push Pixel phone sales... And given 3.9 million units sold last year... Consumers aren't buying the argument about the experience, and more importantly, aren't buying the Pixel hardware compromises.

Whole lot of incorrect information in here. Too much to go through point by point, but the basics are:

Pixel sales figures are incorrect, as are Samsung.
Pixels aren't stock.
CPU and RAM aren't related to the bloatware problem.
CPU and RAM can't solve the bloatware problem.
OS version updates have much more to them than user facing features.
OS version adoption rates are accelerating and tools are now in place to cause increases to future acceleration.
The point of tech blogs is to generate traffic, but it is not to sell you products.
Phones aren't guns.
Plenty of negative reviews exist, but not enough.
You can't say in one breath that common sense is the best defense against malware and in the next recommend downloading software from the Samsung store.
Android OS is not "nothing more than the features and options you have on your phone". That's basically the UI, but not even all of that.

TLDR everything in the post I'm quoting is either false or misleading.

 

[Ry]

Most of these "bloggers" still think that Android One updates come straight from Google.

 

[chanchan05]

Most of these "bloggers" still think that Android One updates come straight from Google.

Based on what I read from the Amdroid One homepage, that seems too be the case before. Has it changed?

 

[anon(10388027)]

You are in total denial.... And passively aggressive.

Bloatware has no effect on today's high powered premium smartphones. The days of limited internal storage or bare bones RAM are long over.

Android M, O, P... You are not at any competitive disadvantage regardless of OS used.... They are all fine... Their differences are trivial.

More RAM (random access memory) allows your CPU to do more math... In user terms that's more open apps and web pages.

Granted, android OS today makes turning off apps and any background work they do very easy.

Ten to fifteen years ago bloatware on early smart phones (and not so smart phones) was an issue because storage space was so limited.

Mobile phone blogs spewing out phone reviews are absolutely a marketing extension of the industry.. The writers get invited to announcements and given phones to review.

LOL...You are hard pressed to find a negative mobile phone review... Just as you are hard pressed to find a negative firearm review.

If I showed you the last 5 generations of (what is a fine 9mm made by CZ) a specific gun... Then compared the reviews to blogger reviews oan Apple iPhone or or Samsung Galaxy smartphone you would not dismiss my observation.

FYI: The base CZ 75B 9mm is a great gun... Although I only find trap shooting interesting... I sold all my handguns (boring, & not a pragmatic self defense option in Canada).

Reviews of 1911. 45ACP handguns are even more hilarious, because... You guessed it... They all have identical, interchangable internal parts true to the original 1911 design (some are prettier than others)

The reviews (marketing) of new phone & gun models are identical... It's quite funny actually... Both obsess over secondary, non core features and use them rationalize upgrades.

 

[chanchan05]

1. RAM does not allow your CPU more math. That is totally incorrect. RAM only allows to have more resources on standby for the CPU to pull, instead of having to decode from the stored data. More RAM doesn't allow the CPU to do more math. It just allows more problems at the ready. If the CPU is fast enough, even reduced RAM won't be a big deal. A slower CPU with more RAM will not necessarily be faster than a fast CPU with smaller RAM.

2. The problem with bloatware was not related to RAM or CPU. It was related to ROM storage. Bloatware took up a lot of space that people had limited storage left to install apps on. Nowadays bloatware isn't a problem not because of increased RAM, storage or CPU. They're not a problem anymore because they can be uninstalled to free up space. In reviews bloatware comment has been reduced to one sentence: there's a few but you can uninstall them.

You are in total denial.... And passively aggressive.

Bloatware has no effect on today's high powered premium smartphones. The days of limited internal storage or bare bones RAM are long over.

Android M, O, P... You are not at any competitive disadvantage regardless of OS used.... They are all fine... Their differences are trivial.

More RAM (random access memory) allows your CPU to do more math... In user terms that's more open apps and web pages.

Granted, android OS today makes turning off apps and any background work they do very easy.

Ten to fifteen years ago bloatware on early smart phones (and not so smart phones) was an issue because storage space was so limited.

Mobile phone blogs spewing out phone reviews are absolutely a marketing extension of the industry.. The writers get invited to announcements and given phones to review.

LOL...You are hard pressed to find a negative mobile phone review... Just as you are hard pressed to find a negative firearm review.

If I showed you the last 5 generations of (what is a fine 9mm made by CZ) a specific gun... Then compared the reviews to blogger reviews oan Apple iPhone or or Samsung Galaxy smartphone you would not dismiss my observation.

FYI: The base CZ 75B 9mm is a great gun... Although I only find trap shooting interesting... I sold all my handguns (boring, & not a pragmatic self defense option in Canada).

Reviews of 1911. 45ACP handguns are even more hilarious, because... You guessed it... They all have identical, interchangable internal parts true to the original 1911 design (some are prettier than others)

The reviews (marketing) of new phone & gun models are identical... It's quite funny actually... Both obsess over secondary, non core features and use them rationalize upgrades.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

Android M, O, P... You are not at any competitive disadvantage regardless of OS used.... They are all fine... Their differences are trivial.

This statement right here discredits the entirety of your post, as it completely destroys your credibility on the subject of Android. Would it be "passive aggressive" to suggest that you do some reading prior to making such outlandish statements in a forum dedicated to a subject that you seem to know very little about?

 

[LeoRex]

Actually, bloatware can be much more insidious than taking up space. Some of the junk that OEMs slather on Android loads into memory on boot and gets in the way of even simple operations. Window transitions go slower, frames are harder to render.

One of the best ways to describe is it like taking a Ferrari, putting on heavy steel rims, a huge radio with monster speakers and 200lbs of dynamat insulation, etc..... A ton of extra weight that might make something work well, but the Ferrari is no longer the fast, nimble curve eating machine it started as. It has to drag along all that extra weight, the engine has to divert a ton of horsepower to power those accessories, etc.

That's what bloatware does now... It gets in the way.