Moto X (third gen): Does the Moto X Pure Edition support T-mobile AWS HSPA+? (Update: Yes)

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Does the Moto X Pure edition (the one that can be purchased in the US) support AWS HSPA+ on T-mobile? Because right now it doesn't seem like it.

Apparently the Moto X Style and Pure have different radios according to Motorola.com

Moto X Pure:
Bands
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz) <- 1700 MHz should be here for full T-mobile support right?
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)

Moto X Style:
Bands
UMTS GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (800, 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 25, 28, 40, 41)

These are copy and pasted directly from Motorola.com (the US site and then the International site respectively)

I kind of need a phone now and the Moto X Pure seems like a great choice but if it doesn't fully support T-mobile bands then I would probably just buy a Nexus 6 now rather than wait (I broke the screen on my Nexus 5 so I don't want to wait long). Service on T-mobile isn't the best even with a fully compatible phone so I don't want it to be any worse.

I searched the web high and low and except for one reddit post I haven't seen anyone make note of this. What do people think? Is this an issue for T-mobile users (since at least in some markets 1900mhz is being refarmed for HSPA+). I guess it could be a typo like the missing Verizon bands? If anyone working at AC sees this and could try to reach out to motorola for clarification that would be awesome.
 

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Probably just a typo. I doubt any usa specd phone would leave out aws 4g.
 

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Re: Does the Moto X Pure edition NOT support T-mobile AWS HSPA+ ?!

Yeah almost certainly a mistake. After all the LTE band list has already been updated twice to include bands they forgot initially. Of course T-Mobile is in the process of phasing out their AWS HSPA+ service and migrating it all to LTE. I believe there are already several markets where the only remaining HSPA+ service is on the PCS band.
 

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Let's just say hypothetically that the currently listed radios are correct. How bad would this be for a T-mobile user now? I realize a couple years ago this was a big deal but does anyone have experience using an AT&T phone on T-mobile now? Is missing AWS HSPA+ no big deal after the modernization of the network or are there still going to be a significant number of places where a T-mobile user would drop down to 2G when they would have HSPA+ if they had a phone will full T-mobile compatibility?

I am trying so hard to wait for this phone but if it turns out I'll have worse service using it than say the Nexus 6 I'll be sad :-(

First world problems...
 

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Re: Moto X (third gen): Does the Moto X Pure Edition support T-mobile AWS HSPA+?

Don't worry it's a typo

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Yes

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Re: Moto X (third gen): Does the Moto X Pure Edition support T-mobile AWS HSPA+?

T-mobile has confirmed that the Moto-X Style is fully supported. Tmonews.com has several good articles on this very subject.
 

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Re: Moto X (third gen): Does the Moto X Pure Edition support T-mobile AWS HSPA+?

T-mobile has confirmed that the Moto-X Style is fully supported. Tmonews.com has several good articles on this very subject.
Does "fully supported" include support for wifi calling, HD voice/VoLTE, and advanced text messaging? The new Moto X is intriguing, but I would really like to have these features.

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Re: Moto X (third gen): Does the Moto X Pure Edition support T-mobile AWS HSPA+?

Does "fully supported" include support for wifi calling, HD voice/VoLTE, and advanced text messaging? The new Moto X is intriguing, but I would really like to have these features.

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It wouldn't include Wifi Calling / Advanced Text. As for VoLTE I am not sure if that would work as I believe it needs to be setup -- that for me is maybe. HD voice will work since that doesn't require additional software on the phone to use.
 

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Re: Moto X (third gen): Does the Moto X Pure Edition support T-mobile AWS HSPA+?

T-mobile has confirmed that the Moto-X Style is fully supported. Tmonews.com has several good articles on this very subject.

Yep :). - Moto X Pure Edition will launch on September 3 » TmoNews

For us Magenta Army members, the Moto X Pure Edition will support T-Mobile’s 1900MHz HSPAcoverage as well as LTE bands 2, 4, and 12. Unfortunately, Des Smith has said that the new Moto X won’t include Wi-Fi Calling.
 

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Re: Moto X (third gen): Does the Moto X Pure Edition support T-mobile AWS HSPA+?


Ok so that sounds very explicitly like the new Moto X WILL NOT include 1700 MHz HSPA+. Also if you listen to the original announcement they were very careful to say that all carriers would be supported on LTE. Not simply full carrier support.

This might be fine. I simply don't know because I've never tried to use a phone with only 1900Mhz support. So my question still stands. Has anyone used a phone with LTE, 1900Mhz HSPA+ but no 1700 band (for HSPA+)? This used to be a big deal for T-mobile users. I just want to know if it is still a concern today. Please note all current T-mobile phones still include support for this band so I don't think this is an unreasonable question.

PS I am still in love with this phone and will just wait to see for myself anyway. Thanks for the help!
 

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Ok so that sounds very explicitly like the new Moto X WILL NOT include 1700 MHz HSPA+. Also if you listen to the original announcement they were very careful to say that all carriers would be supported on LTE. Not simply full carrier support.

This might be fine. I simply don't know because I've never tried to use a phone with only 1900Mhz support. So my question still stands. Has anyone used a phone with LTE, 1900Mhz HSPA+ but no 1700 band (for HSPA+)? This used to be a big deal for T-mobile users. I just want to know if it is still a concern today. Please note all current T-mobile phones still include support for this band so I don't think this is an unreasonable question.

PS I am still in love with this phone and will just wait to see for myself anyway. Thanks for the help!

Pretty sure it's a typo on Motorola's website.

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Is T-Mobile phasing out 1700 for HSPA+?

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I'm so confused. So has it been settled as to whether it supports the 1700 band?

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Moto X Pure Edition - Motorola
Moto X Pure Edition will launch on September 3 » TmoNews

Bands
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)

This is what's been officially published so far. We might have to just wait and see.
 

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I'm so confused. So has it been settled as to whether it supports the 1700 band?

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No it hasn't and just so everyone is clear I (the OP) did not update the title. I don't know who did that. As far as anyone can tell so far the Moto X pure edition DOES NOT support AWS HSPA+.

The moto x style does though.

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Ok final update: Motorola.com very recently updated their US webpage to include the 1700 AWS band for HSPA+.

All is good. Sorry for the trouble but I just really want this phone...

Most recent copy and paste from motorola.com (US site) moto x pure edition:
Bands
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
 

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Ok final update: Motorola.com very recently updated their US webpage to include the 1700 AWS band for HSPA+.

All is good. Sorry for the trouble but I just really want this phone...

Most recent copy and paste from motorola.com (US site) moto x pure edition:
Bands
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)

Yup.

Moto X Pure Edition - Motorola was recently updated.
 

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Ok final update: Motorola.com very recently updated their US webpage to include the 1700 AWS band for HSPA+.

All is good. Sorry for the trouble but I just really want this phone...

Most recent copy and paste from motorola.com (US site) moto x pure edition:
Bands
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)

Nice! I am glad to see it was a typo :). It would be pretty crazy for them to not include it when marketing it for the US haha.