News Net neutrality rules are temporarily blocked, but you shouldn't be surprised

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I used to enjoy politics and political discourse/debate until I had an epiphany and realized it wasn't doing one single positive thing for me - or for anyone around me. That was 20 years ago and "us vs them" political tribalism has only gotten worse in the intervening years. That would be bad enough, but at the same time we seem to be using our brains less often for critical thought and are more inclined to participate in groupthink - some of which comes from our social media connections - more.

Unfortunately, IMHO, technology is, and will continue to be, one of the leading influences in diminished critical thought in North American (and other) societies. Why use your brain (which is, after all, hard work) to do math, spell a word, form a sentence, figure out how to solve a problem, analyze a political promise, memorize something, or even make a friend, when a computer chip and a 99¢ app (free with ads) can do it for you?

I don't know how we are going to make the world a better place for our children and grandchildren to live in, but I am convinced the internet, social media, AI - and politics - ain't it!

I was going to take your advice and be "pissed off," but I asked Gemini about the issues you have raised and she said, "Don't worry, be happy." Then I went onto my Everybody Sucks Facebook Group and found out you are actually a Martian anarchist and that you like fried liver and onions. How could I possibly take you seriously, now?

PS: This post may seem a little disjointed and maybe even a word salad, but in my defense, my AI-Writer app hasn't been working properly these past few days and I am still waiting for an update.
 
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Jerry, it looks like you've picked a side. The FCC picked a side and became political because it wants to control the pricing and speech on the Internet. First off Type II regulation means higher prices and diminishing competition. We already pay more for broadband in the U.S. then in most other countries. FWA is eating cable's lunch and how cable is responding. This is how it should work. If we go back to treating broadband like our electric companies, we'll be paying more and more each month for less and less.

Equally important is free speech on the Internet. The FCC will now be able to determine what is said and not said on the Internet. If they don't like me saying "masks don't work," then it will no longer be legal speech. Why do you think they got Gigi on the commission? If they determine too much gaming is harmful, then they will limit that too. Don't kid yourself that they will never take it that far.

The Internet has been working just fine the way that it is. Anytime the government gets involved with something they screw it up. Just look at heath care.

All packets are NOT created equal. Some traffic should be prioritized over other traffic. Voice calls should be a higher priority than e-mail. Creating equity on the Internet does not allow us to effectively manage traffic for the most efficient traffic flow. Also it takes away opportunities to create new revenue streams. How much would you pay extra per month to have your gaming traffic prioritized to guarantee 10 ms latency to the app server?

These are the things Net Neutrality brings us. Let us engineers and technologists design and operate the Internet not a bunch of bureaucrats. The Chevron Deference case helps us to keep the Internet free and open from bureaucrats.
 

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The Chevron Deference case helps us to keep the Internet free and open from bureaucrats.

I'm hoping you mean the ending of Chevron, as that was recently overturned by the Supreme Court. If it were still the status quo, then yes the FCC could change things on a whim.
 

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Jerry, it looks like you've picked a side. The FCC picked a side and became political because it wants to control the pricing and speech on the Internet. First off Type II regulation means higher prices and diminishing competition. We already pay more for broadband in the U.S. then in most other countries. FWA is eating cable's lunch and how cable is responding. This is how it should work. If we go back to treating broadband like our electric companies, we'll be paying more and more each month for less and less.

Equally important is free speech on the Internet. The FCC will now be able to determine what is said and not said on the Internet. If they don't like me saying "masks don't work," then it will no longer be legal speech. Why do you think they got Gigi on the commission? If they determine too much gaming is harmful, then they will limit that too. Don't kid yourself that they will never take it that far.

The Internet has been working just fine the way that it is. Anytime the government gets involved with something they screw it up. Just look at heath care.

All packets are NOT created equal. Some traffic should be prioritized over other traffic. Voice calls should be a higher priority than e-mail. Creating equity on the Internet does not allow us to effectively manage traffic for the most efficient traffic flow. Also it takes away opportunities to create new revenue streams. How much would you pay extra per month to have your gaming traffic prioritized to guarantee 10 ms latency to the app server?

These are the things Net Neutrality brings us. Let us engineers and technologists design and operate the Internet not a bunch of bureaucrats. The Chevron Deference case helps us to keep the Internet free and open from bureaucrats.
My side is I don't want to hear random people on the internet make those arguments. I want to hear them from the actual companies making them, in case it may change my mind. Partisanship and a lack of transparency took that away from me. And you. And every American.