new carrier phones and feature and samsung phones in 2023-24

[David Thomas24]

hello do you all recall back in the old days that AT&T verizon and t-mobile when ever a new samsung phone comes out that they all ways like to remove features that came with the phone like example AT&T likes to remove the software update screen that shows the list of improvements and replace it with a plain blue update bar so i wounder have carriers gotten better now days and leave all the features be or do they still remove something in 2024 i all so like to no what features did your samsung S24 came with or remove if you got it from AT&T verizon or T-mobile

 

[Village_Idiot]

What features are you saying the carriers removed?

 

[David Thomas24]

What features are you saying the carriers removed?

back in the old days carriers like to remove/ hide stuff that came with new samsung phones and replace it with there own stuff i wonder if carriers like verizon and AT&T are still doing that

 

[Village_Idiot]

back in the old days carriers like to remove/ hide stuff that came with new samsung phones and replace it with there own stuff i wonder if carriers like verizon and AT&T are still doing that

When was the last time you had a smart phone? It's been over a decade since the FCC cracked down on that.

 

[David Thomas24]

When was the last time you had a smart phone? It's been over a decade since the FCC cracked down on that.

LOL i have own a smart phone for a long time i used to own a iphone for a long time i this went back to the samsung S23 FE with creicket and i just went over to boost infinite and got me the samsung S24 utla

 

[mustang7757]

back in the old days carriers like to remove/ hide stuff that came with new samsung phones and replace it with there own stuff i wonder if carriers like verizon and AT&T are still doing that

Carrier bloat is still happening, Att being the worse at it, getting unlock version is best way to go .

 

[Village_Idiot]

Carrier bloat is still happening, Att being the worse at it, getting unlock version is best way to go .

There is a difference between so-called bloatware and locking out features such as NFC tap-to-pay or GPS.

 

[mustang7757]

There is a difference between so-called bloatware and locking out features such as NFC tap-to-pay or GPS.

Of course there are differences but what locking out features like NFC tap to pay and GPS your referring to or carrier ?
I know lower end devices might have those features removed but unaware high end ones .

 

[Village_Idiot]

Of course there are differences but what locking out features like NFC tap to pay and GPS your referring to or carrier ?
I know lower end devices might have those features removed but unaware high end ones .

Back in 2010, Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile were co-developing a tap-to-pay app called Isis (later renamed Softcard). At the time Google Wallet (formerly Google Checkout) had been around for a few years. Verizon blocked the installation of Google Wallet on its NFC enabled phones. I had a Verizon Galaxy Nexus; to use Google Wallet, I had to root my phone and sideload a patched version of Google Wallet. Softcard never worked out, and it was ultimately shuttered.

Also, during that same time frame, Verizon locked down the GPS on its phones. To use the GPS, you had to pay $10/month for VZ Navigator. That allowed you to use the phone's GPS with VZ Navigator, Google Maps, or other navigation apps.

A class action lawsuit was filed against Verizon for blocking use of built in features that came with the phone. The FCC kicked Verizon in the junk for it. Because of that, Verizon was not allowed to block built-in features and had to unlock any devices upon sale. Otherwise, Verizon couldn't participate when the FCC was selling block C spectrum.

 

[leerandall]

For years, Verizon removed Samsung's Find My Phone feature and forced you to use their own version of it.

 

[SyCoREAPER]

Carrier bloat is still happening, Att being the worse at it, getting unlock version is best way to go .

Have to disagree. Each have their perks.

For example Carrier version gets faster updates, RCS with Samsung Messages.

Unlocked less bloat, better call blocking, Sometimes icons are missing like TMob when they added 5G UC, unlocked couldn't differentiate.

it goes back amd forth, plus you can cross flash U and U1 firmware so it's largely irrelevant

 

[dwboston]

Verizon Wireless years ago was notorious for removing features/capabilities from phones. Do a search for the Motorola V710, which was widely advertised at VZW's "first bluetooth phone". Only problem was, VZW blocked several Bluetooth profiles on the phone, preventing people from exporting pictures and phone numbers, as well as wirelessly syncing with a PC. They also removed the POP3 email client and instant messaging client. The only ways to get photos off the phone was to either use a paid VZWportal/ service or buy an expensive (for the time) $60 TransFlash card for the phone.

It was a big deal at the time, and led to a an infamous interview with a smug VZW executive who said it wasn't in their business model to allow people to access their own photos for free.

Carriers still block or remove features/options/settings, or only allow certain features on carrier-locked models. Every single one of them grew out of an old landline telecom company. Stifling innovation and limiting consumer choice is in their DNA.

 

[Village_Idiot]

For years, Verizon removed Samsung's Find My Phone feature and forced you to use their own version of it.

Not true. I've never used Verizon's phone locator app. Besides, it was free. I used Google's find my mobile app. The Samsung Find app is relatively new. It's only been around for a few years.

 

[Village_Idiot]

Verizon Wireless years ago was notorious for removing features/capabilities from phones. Do a search for the Motorola V710, which was widely advertised at VZW's "first bluetooth phone". Only problem was, VZW blocked several Bluetooth profiles on the phone, preventing people from exporting pictures and phone numbers, as well as wirelessly syncing with a PC. They also removed the POP3 email client and instant messaging client. The only ways to get photos off the phone was to either use a paid VZWportal/ service or buy an expensive (for the time) $60 TransFlash card for the phone.

It was a big deal at the time, and led to a an infamous interview with a smug VZW executive who said it wasn't in their business model to allow people to access their own photos for free.

Carriers still block or remove features/options/settings, or only allow certain features on carrier-locked models. Every single one of them grew out of an old landline telecom company. Stifling innovation and limiting consumer choice is in their DNA.

Really? That was 20 years ago. Not even close to being relavent now. That's not even a smart phone.

 

[leerandall]

Not true. I've never used Verizon's phone locator app. Besides, it was free. I used Google's find my mobile app. The Samsung Find app is relatively new. It's only been around for a few years.

It absolutely was true. I remember calling Verizon and asking where Samsung's Find My Phone app was, and they told me point blank that they replaced it with their own. This was when I had my Samsung Note 4.

 

[Village_Idiot]

It absolutely was true. I remember calling Verizon and asking where Samsung's Find My Phone app was, and they told me point blank that they replaced it with their own. This was when I had my Samsung Note 4.

That's because there was no Samsung Find My Phone app until recently.

The Samsung Find My Phone was a setting that you enabled in the settings. The carriers used that service for their respective apps. Google's Find My Phone has been around for quite awhile.

 

[mustang7757]

Back in 2010, Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile were co-developing a tap-to-pay app called Isis (later renamed Softcard). At the time Google Wallet (formerly Google Checkout) had been around for a few years. Verizon blocked the installation of Google Wallet on its NFC enabled phones. I had a Verizon Galaxy Nexus; to use Google Wallet, I had to root my phone and sideload a patched version of Google Wallet. Softcard never worked out, and it was ultimately shuttered.

Also, during that same time frame, Verizon locked down the GPS on its phones. To use the GPS, you had to pay $10/month for VZ Navigator. That allowed you to use the phone's GPS with VZ Navigator, Google Maps, or other navigation apps.

A class action lawsuit was filed against Verizon for blocking use of built in features that came with the phone. The FCC kicked Verizon in the junk for it. Because of that, Verizon was not allowed to block built-in features and had to unlock any devices upon sale. Otherwise, Verizon couldn't participate when the FCC was selling block C spectrum.

I'm talking about now , Verizon is in its own world when it comes to Samsung looks like back then and even today.

 

[mustang7757]

Have to disagree. Each have their perks.

For example Carrier version gets faster updates, RCS with Samsung Messages.

Unlocked less bloat, better call blocking, Sometimes icons are missing like TMob when they added 5G UC, unlocked couldn't differentiate.

it goes back amd forth, plus you can cross flash U and U1 firmware so it's largely irrelevant

You can disagree

Carriers don't always get faster updates, and it was great back then Samsung messages had RCS , Google's message is way to go today and better RCS protocol we see if Samsung messages be around in the future which I think probably won't.

Yes carrier and unlock version are interchangeable when flashing, good thing for carrier version that want to go to unlock version with no carrier splash screen added apps , yes TMO version Unlock or carrier show 5G UC .

Fun facts;
Sprint back in the days was only carrier to show RCS with Samsung messages on unlock version.

 

[edubfromktown]

Have to disagree. Each have their perks.

For example Carrier version gets faster updates, RCS with Samsung Messages.

Unlocked less bloat, better call blocking, Sometimes icons are missing like TMob when they added 5G UC, unlocked couldn't differentiate.

it goes back amd forth, plus you can cross flash U and U1 firmware so it's largely irrelevant

The main "perk" is that you get rope-a-doped into a mid to high-priced plan for multiple years, in exchange for a not so "free" or discount subsidized device.

Carrier versions haven't received updates faster than unlocked MVNO mobile phones in my experience.

AT&T tends to be the slowest and breaks things the worst of major US carriers in recent times.

 

[mustang7757]

It absolutely was true. I remember calling Verizon and asking where Samsung's Find My Phone app was, and they told me point blank that they replaced it with their own. This was when I had my Samsung Note 4.

Verizon must pay Samsung a pretty decent amount .