Nexus 4 or SGNote2?

[maisam]

Hi,
I was wondering what phone i should choose.
I use a phone for social media, games, films and other important stuff.
The phone that i want is a phone that is easy to use, fast and has a good battery.
Could you guys give me any advice?
Sorry for if i made mistakes in this, i'm from Holland so my english isn't that good.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Hubertsng]

Note 2 benefits = larger screen for games and information to see, LTE, fast, and a larger battery (it is drained quicker with its larger screen though and LTE), stylus included that can be used with pressure to make thicker lines while drawing, replacable battery and SD Card slot (not sure about that)
Nexus 4 benefits = really cheap, relatively large size compared to iphone and some other android phones, HSPA+ which is almost as good as LTE on verizon I think, also fast. Battery lasts considerably long with only HSPA+ and smaller screen, smaller so easier one handed use but it is just your preference

 

[codeda]

The battery life on the note 2 is amazing. If you have the dough for it, I would go with that. Very very good phone.

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[TheLibertarian]

Note 2 benefits = larger screen for games and information to see, LTE, fast, and a larger battery (it is drained quicker with its larger screen though and LTE), stylus included that can be used with pressure to make thicker lines while drawing, replacable battery and SD Card slot (not sure about that)
Nexus 4 benefits = really cheap, relatively large size compared to iphone and some other android phones, HSPA+ which is almost as good as LTE on verizon I think, also fast. Battery lasts considerably long with only HSPA+ and smaller screen, smaller so easier one handed use but it is just your preference

Verizon's LTE shouldn't even be in the same breath as HSPA+. In rare circumstances T-Mobile's DC-HSPA+ matches Verizon's LTE in speed tests, but the overall quality of Verizon's LTE and it's sheer coverage map are fathoms above HSPA+.

 

[Hubertsng]

Verizon's LTE shouldn't even be in the same breath as HSPA+. In rare circumstances T-Mobile's DC-HSPA+ matches Verizon's LTE in speed tests, but the overall quality of Verizon's LTE and it's sheer coverage map are fathoms above HSPA+.

oh. maybe its that, i don't use either so i'm not 100% about it. You are probably correct but LTE takes more battery life.

 

[mycrownvic02#WN]

Verizon's LTE shouldn't even be in the same breath as HSPA+. In rare circumstances T-Mobile's DC-HSPA+ matches Verizon's LTE in speed tests, but the overall quality of Verizon's LTE and it's sheer coverage map are fathoms above HSPA+.

Rare instances? My nexus constantly gets better speeds than verizons lte here in tennesse. No rare thing here, Just normal. Verizons lte is not all that, and once an area gets more saturated with lte usage, it slows down considerably. In fact, at&ts hspa+ is faster than verizons lte here. In reality, it just depends where you live, and if you dont do much traveling, then its a mute point.

 

[Woodsy]

Rare instances? My nexus constantly gets better speeds than verizons lte here in tennesse. No rare thing here, Just normal. Verizons lte is not all that, and once an area gets more saturated with lte usage, it slows down considerably. In fact, at&ts hspa+ is faster than verizons lte here. In reality, it just depends where you live, and if you dont do much traveling, then its a mute point.

Yep gonna call you on that one. I've had both a note 2 on verizon, and a nexus 4 on ATT. Had them both in Knoxville, and Murfreesboro. In both places my verizon phone SOARED where as my ATT phone just couldn't compete.

Sent from the greatest phone in the world, The Galaxy Note 2 on Verizon.

 

[SAENZ_SCENE]

Just depends on area and how many people are on network. I have had Verizon and I get faster and more consistent lte speeds with at&t.

 

[Jnorton2724]

Pure Android or Touchwiz? LTE or HSPA+? LG Nexus design or Samsung Galaxy design? 5'5 inch display or 4'7 inch display? Lots of personal preference questions that we can't answer for you cause we all have completely different opinions with each choice. And, carrier coverage and speeds are based on location so see which has the best coverage in your area as well to decide who to go with after picking the phone you want.

 

[TheLibertarian]

Rare instances? My nexus constantly gets better speeds than verizons lte here in tennesse. No rare thing here, Just normal. Verizons lte is not all that, and once an area gets more saturated with lte usage, it slows down considerably. In fact, at&ts hspa+ is faster than verizons lte here. In reality, it just depends where you live, and if you dont do much traveling, then its a mute point.

1) I just returned from Nashville and my AT&T non-LTE device couldn't touch my parents Verizon GS3's.

2) You still proved my point. Even if your current service is faster than Verizon's, you are part of a vast minority where that is the case. Listing a few locations within the entire country qualifies as "rare."

 

[Doooshty]

Yep gonna call you on that one. I've had both a note 2 on verizon, and a nexus 4 on ATT. Had them both in Knoxville, and Murfreesboro. In both places my verizon phone SOARED where as my ATT phone just couldn't compete.

Sent from the greatest phone in the world, The Galaxy Note 2 on Verizon.

ATT only uses HSPA+ 21, with T-Mobile you get DC HSPA+ 42. I have found that most places I've been T-Mobile can compete speed wise with LTE in everything other than ping speed

 

[TheLibertarian]

ATT only uses HSPA+ 21, with T-Mobile you get DC HSPA+ 42. I have found that most places I've been T-Mobile can compete speed wise with LTE in everything other than ping speed

This.

T-Mobile is the only HSPA+ network that is a worthy competitor to LTE, but even then, coverage of their ultra fast DC-HSPA+ is significantly smaller than Verizon's LTE network.

 

[badbrad17]

Good Lord people. Can we help this OP? Everyone is sidetracked by LTE vs HSPA +. They need more advice.

I have a Nexus 4 and think it's an excellent phone but if you really need lots of battery then the Note 2 is better. Plus the screen size would be nice for you. If OS updates are important or you want to save $$ then go with the N4. Both phones are great, but I think you would be happier with the Note 2. IMO.

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[Jnorton2724]

This.

T-Mobile is the only HSPA+ network that is a worthy competitor to LTE, but even then, coverage of their ultra fast DC-HSPA+ is significantly smaller than Verizon's LTE network.

Yup yup. Even AT&T gives me good data speeds using HSPA+ and its more then enough for me. AT&T HSPA+ 6-11 Mbps Down, T-Mobile 10-19 Mbps down. LTE isn't needed, in my opinion, I thought it was gonna be drastically slower then my GS3's LTE with AT&T but with daily use HSPA+ is more then enough.

 

[TheLibertarian]

Yup yup. Even AT&T gives me good data speeds using HSPA+ and its more then enough for me. AT&T HSPA+ 6-11 Mbps Down, T-Mobile 10-19 Mbps down. LTE isn't needed, in my opinion, I thought it was gonna be drastically slower then my GS3's LTE with AT&T but with daily use HSPA+ is more then enough.

I agree. I'm certainly jealous of LTE devices, but only for the silly reason of wanting my device to be number one haha. Real world use I'm plenty fine with HSPA+ (I'm only acknowledging others may not be as satisfied).

 

[MERCDROID]

This.

T-Mobile is the only HSPA+ network that is a worthy competitor to LTE, but even then, coverage of their ultra fast DC-HSPA+ is significantly smaller than Verizon's LTE network.

T-Mobile's HSPA+ will be faster then Verizon's LTE in some instances, due to the fact that HSPA+ can handle more users but has less coverage; whereas LTE can provide better coverage but decreases in effectiveness as more users access it. I read that somewhere, but forgot the source. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

As far as choosing the Nexus 4 vs the Note 2, there's no real comparison. If you want the Nexus 4, you want: pure Android and hate/dislike OEM skins, to root/rom/develop, fast updates over the shelf-life of the device, a device completely devoid of any sort of carrier interference, and a decently-spec'd phone at a cheap price (new).

If you want the Note 2, you are a power user that: doesn't value updates as much as Nexus users, wants the biggest screen you can get on a phone, needs the S-Pen and the functionality it provides, doesn't mind carrier bloatware (or intends to root and rom anyway) and doesn't care about pure Android.

Personally, if you're looking to buy the phone now, I would go with the Note 2. The Play Store is still out of stock, so if you're looking to buy a Nexus 4, you're looking at paying at least $500. The Nexus 4 is a great phone, but I couldn't recommend anyone paying over $500 for it, considering Google's price of $350.

Now, if the Play Store still had stock, I would recommend the Nexus 4 hands down. It represents the best value for the money right now. And if you can't afford the high price of the Note 2, then I will recommend shopping around for a deal on a Nexus 4.

Hope this helps, and good luck with whatever you chose OP.

 

[petaf]

Good advice, MERCDROID

 

[bobjohnson201]

Hi,
I was wondering what phone i should choose.
I use a phone for social media, games, films and other important stuff.
The phone that i want is a phone that is easy to use, fast and has a good battery.
Could you guys give me any advice?
Sorry for if i made mistakes in this, i'm from Holland so my english isn't that good.
Thanks in advance.

i would take the nexus over the note 2 any day of the week. heres why:
size - note 2 is just too damn big.
software - n4 gets updates as soon as they are released, and you get a software life cycle of 2 years. samsung will abandon the note 2 a lot sooner.
material composition - the glass back on the n4 is beautiful. the plastic design on the note 2 is fugly.
i prefer stock to touchwiz.
price - n4 unlocked is $300-$350, note 2 unlocked will be ~$600.
unless you like the ginourmous screen, or want LTE/sd card slot, get the n4

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I agree. I'm certainly jealous of LTE devices, but only for the silly reason of wanting my device to be number one haha. Real world use I'm plenty fine with HSPA+ (I'm only acknowledging others may not be as satisfied).

my hspa+ (att) on my nexus is faster than my home wi-fi... i'm very content with hspa+21