Note 4 "Gapgate"

[Willn]

Yet, strangely, several folks said there was no gap when checking out demo units in store.

This was before Samsung said there was a gap by design.

Fanboys denied existence of the gap because they thought it was a design flaw...classic

They denied it because they didn't see it, yes its really that small. You would have to put it to your face to see it.

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[Preach2k]

As proven in the photos I posted earlier in this thread. There has always been gaps in Samsung phones. We would not of even noticed it if it was not brought to our attention. There is a gap in my Gnote3. I have had no problems what so ever. I had to take my case off and search for the gap with a sticky note to find it. Another found it on his GS4. He has not had any problems and would not of noticed it if it was not brought to his attention. I think this whole thing is stupid. People are making a big thing out of nothing. Just like Bendgate. Although I am not an Apple fan that was also blown out of proportion, because people weighing over 100 pounds sitting on their phones in their back or front pockets (It is aluminum people). The thing is a case can fix both problems. Case will cover the gap and a case will make the 6+ more sturdy. Come on we are better then this lets move on!!!

 

[prakash99]

Yet, strangely, several folks said there was no gap when checking out demo units in store.

This was before Samsung said there was a gap by design.

Fanboys denied existence of the gap because they thought it was a design flaw...classic

My Note 3 manual says there's a gap by design but there is none on my phone. And there was no gap on the phones I played with at Best Buy.

And this fanboy checked AFTER the whole thing started blowing out of proportion, not before.

As for iPhone bending, you just have to take care of your phone. Phones are fragile. You have to handle with care. Not just iPhones, but any phone.

 

[Soundtrack to Chaos]

My Note 3 manual says there's a gap by design but there is none on my phone. And there was no gap on the phones I played with at Best Buy.

And this fanboy checked AFTER the whole thing started blowing out of proportion, not before.

As for iPhone bending, you just have to take care of your phone. Phones are fragile. You have to handle with care. Not just iPhones, but any phone.

I really wonder why some models have the gap and some don't, really weird when you think about it. I'm not questioning whether the gap is intentional or not, but I wonder why the gap isn't on every model.


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[AnnDroid]

I really wonder why some models have the gap and some don't, really weird when you think about it. I'm not questioning whether the gap is intentional or not, but I wonder why the gap isn't on every model.

I agree with her. Why some with gaps, others not? My concern is dirt build up. I don't use cases, so covering up that area isn't an option for me.

Again, I have a Note 2 with many areas that allow me to insert my fingernail, but it's not visually noticeable.

 

[prakash99]

I agree with her. Why some with gaps, others not? My concern is dirt build up. I don't use cases, so covering up that area isn't an option for me.

Again, I have a Note 2 with many areas that allow me to insert my fingernail, but it's not visually noticeable.

I think the gaps are there by design, just the question of how noticeable. I did not notice any gaps on my Note 2, and there are none on my Note 3 either. I have not possessed any Note devices for more than a year so I am not sure how much expansion occurs over long time. And we have seen on the manuals of both Note 2 and Note 3 (I did check Note 3 manual) refer to the gaps in the troubleshooting section. So, I believe Samsung's manufacturing has not been consistent on the "size" of the gaps.

Now it may be bothersome for some people. It could even be a dealbreaker for some. As for me, it is not an issue. I used to have BlackBerry Storm and Storm 2, both naturally had very noticeable gaps on all sides of the clickable screens (obviously). Sometimes some tiny debris would get caught in the gaps but I would just blow it away. And there was no effects on the functionality of the devices.

As for water damage, we should be keeping our phones away from water or any liquid anyways. Note 4 is not waterproof like S5.

Here is a screenshot of a page on my Note 3 manual.

 

[TransAm461]

This is a NON-ISSUE in my opinion.... my current Note 2 has a gap around the screen of it also....I can fit a thin piece of paper in it too...heck ,I never even noticed it was there until I started reading these gap threads....I have had it 2 years, and it has caused ZERO problems.....so I'm not even the slightest worried with the Note 4 gap everyone is speaking of..... now..... come on the 23rd!!

Brian

 

[PraetorianGuard14]

I think this only became a big deal after Apple fans perceived Bendgate to be a product of rival taunting, so they turned around and did the same. Much ado about nothing.

 

[monsieurms]

As proven in the photos I posted earlier in this thread. There has always been gaps in Samsung phones. We would not of even noticed it if it was not brought to our attention. !!!

Hence, perhaps why some people reported inspecting and there weren't any. I.e, it wasn't anything different than normal build and considering the fuss, you're expecting something different, rather than the typical design build for the last couple of models.

As for iPhone bending, you just have to take care of your phone. Phones are fragile. You have to handle with care. Not just iPhones, but any phone.

That much I agree with, but I really, really wish people would stop trying to compare the two incidents. The facts are different and the tech is different. Whatever the final conclusion, it's not the same thing. For instance, something actually seems to have changed with Apple: Consumer Reports, while to some extent pooh-pooing the subject, produced this chart. The first number represents "deformation" from pressure. The second number represents "case separation" in their table--i.e., the phone just sort of breaks.

Call it a defect or not as you will, one thing we might note from this chart is that the iPhone 6 deforms at 70 pounds and separates at 100; while in the past, the iPhone 5 deformed only at 130 pounds of pressure and did not separate until 150.

THAT means, if you're a dedicated iPhone user, something changed to make the new model less sturdy. Even the iPhone 6+ does not match the i5 pressure-resistant specs according to CU. And if in your normal use, the iphone 6 suddenly bends, maybe it's not something that rises to the level of a defect--maybe it is!--but, if these CU numbers are correct, one thing clearly set out is that there has been a change in pressure resistance specs and the i6 will bend when the i5 wouldn't. If consumer expectations are to use the phone the way you always used to when you had the i5, you won't get the same result and bad things may happen.

HTC One (M8)
70 pounds 90 pounds

Apple iPhone 6
70 pounds 100 pounds

Apple iPhone 6 Plus
90 pounds 110 pounds

LG G3
130 pounds 130 pounds

Apple iPhone 5
130 pounds 150 pounds

Samsung Galaxy Note 3
150 pounds 150 pounds

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/09/consumer-reports-tests-iphone-6-bendgate/index.htm

I'm sure we haven't seen the end of either story, but neither has much relevance to the other.

 

[Preach2k]

Hence, why some people reported inspecting and there weren't any. I.e, it wasn't anything different and considering the fuss, you're expecting something different.

No I think this whole thing is stupid in my opinion. When the manual says it has gaps and it has been found on some of the phones. So what is the problem. It should not be a surprise to any one when the manual says it. There is nothing to be fixed.

 

[stackberry369]

I agree with her. Why some with gaps, others not? My concern is dirt build up. I don't use cases, so covering up that area isn't an option for me.

Again, I have a Note 2 with many areas that allow me to insert my fingernail, but it's not visually noticeable.

Maybe the gap is for allowing heat to escape

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[beh]

Today I had the opportunity to check out the two white Note 4 phones at one of the local Best Buy stores. There is a slight slot between the periphery of the screen and the inside edge of the metal side frame. But it is definitely a minor change from the screen/frame fit of the Note 3. I am still going to wait until the phones are actually in stock, but this "gapgate" issue is as others have said turned out to be making whole mountain ranges out of a mole hill.

 

[jdhooghe]

Agreed.

On a side note I am trying to talk my buddy with an iPhone 6 (not the plus) into using SwiftKey. He likes the dark theme .. He is just worried about the privacy warning. I told him SwiftKey is upfront about what they collect / don't collect ... we will see what he does. I tried to tell him they are trustworthy ^_^.

Just tell him to input all the sensitive information using Apple's keyboard. Passwords are automatically entered using Apple's keyboard as a security measure anyway. The Cloud, regardless of brand, is not safe.

 

[Kyle Ingham]

It's not that bad, it's very minor

 

[stackberry369]

Apparently Samsung is having done serious build issues in Korea

Galaxy Note 4 screen separation issue reported in South Korea | BGR

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reesh1,enjoying your note 4?

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