Note 4 with Tizen?

I wonder how well Android would do if Samsung decided to abandon Android? I think the two companies need each other.

Scribbled from my incredible Samsung Galaxy Note 3.

I think Android might feel an effect, but who knows? If Samsung leaves the OS, and people realize that it is Tizen in its place, there may be fewer sales of Samsungs.
Symbiotic, yes. But I think Samsung will suffer more than Android.

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I wonder how well Android would do if Samsung decided to abandon Android? I think the two companies need each other.

Scribbled from my incredible Samsung Galaxy Note 3.

If tizen doesn't have good app support, it would be pretty tough. If Samsung can get good solid apps on release, then there is a chance it can make it big without Google... But what would it do without Google Apps? Apple spent a lot of effort to get their maps away from Google and even at the beginning, they floundered. A lot of Android users are tied into the Google ecosystem, and even moving to iOS, there is good Google support. Heck, you can make and receive calls from phones on hangouts in ios, but not Android yet. Even though Google doesn't like apple, ios has the numbers so it has to support them. Tizen on the other hand doesn't. Also Google is ending third party Google voice support so no support on Windows phone. And blackberry is the same.

A few years ago Samsung was not really taken seriously, and HTC was king. In just a short time, rolls were reversed. And if not those companies, someone else would arise.

Samsung tried and failed at their OS in the past. Can they succeed? Maybe. But they aren't going to abandon Android completely anytime soon. Imo, they would wait to ensure tizen success before abandoning Android. The bottom line is profitability. Having their own OS means jack if they aren't successful

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To everyone saying it's selfish etc. For Google to not support windows phone. Why would Google support a competitors hardware and software? Never mind that Google doesn't make money on windows phone products how about the whole 'scroogled' thing. That's like saying why doesn't Walmart advertise for Target or something

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The idea that the samsung centric stuff is pointing in the direction of tizen is a stretch. That have had this stuff since the galaxy s 1. Some of it has expanded. But it is essentially the same stuff.

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To everyone saying it's selfish etc. For Google to not support windows phone. Why would Google support a competitors hardware and software?

Its one thing to not actively support another platform, its a much different matter when it actively block the WP youtube app when M$ wrote the app according to Google's requirement.

Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app (again), for “manufactured” reasons | Ars Technica

This is absurdly monopoly at the expense of end users. This type of behavior will not be regarded highly in my mind, period.
 
The idea that the samsung centric stuff is pointing in the direction of tizen is a stretch. That have had this stuff since the galaxy s 1. Some of it has expanded. But it is essentially the same stuff.

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I have had most Galax devices. The note 3 is bloated with Samsung like I have never seen. You could strip Google from it and samsung has services in place already for everything. The only thing missing is a Samsung framework. Samsung's app store is getting millions of dollars in love.

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I have had most Galax devices. The note 3 is bloated with Samsung like I have never seen. You could strip Google from it and samsung has services in place already for everything. The only thing missing is a Samsung framework. Samsung's app store is getting millions of dollars in love.

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Maybe it is me. But to me it seems a bit out of place to say a Samsung device is bloated with Samsung software.
 
As long as the OS runs well and offers the apps I need, I don't care. I have a couple specialized apps I use to help me manage my health problems though. So I would definitely be on Android or iOS until a competing OS offered those kinds of apps.

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If it runs tizen, I don't want it. Most of samsung's apps are garbage. Touch Wiz is ok because with android I can download launchers, etc to hide it. I like google's services, and android as a whole, too much. If they drop android I'll go back to htc or nexus devices
 
Its one thing to not actively support another platform, its a much different matter when it actively block the WP youtube app when M$ wrote the app according to Google's requirement.

Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app (again), for “manufactured” reasons | Ars Technica

This is absurdly monopoly at the expense of end users. This type of behavior will not be regarded highly in my mind, period.

It's Microsoft's fault for starting crap with Google! Started with the scroogled, then they made their own YouTube app with no adds. Plus all the hate commercials, plus the internal 'chrome' commercial they made about how much Google sucks.

If I was at Google I'd say f you Microsoft as well

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Look how well Amazon is doing at opting out of Google Play Services with the Kindle!
Cough....

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Samsung isn't going to ditch Android any time soon. Tizen will be offered in low cost mid range phones at first to see if it takes off. If it does, then I'd worry but I don't see it happening. Who knows, it might be only offered to emerging markets. But to note though, if Samsung DOES ditch android, It will either be Moto, HTC, or Nexus for me.

As far as Android becoming more of a locked down OS....I don't see it happening. In fact, Google has been releasing it's apps to the play store giving users more choice instead of ramming it down your throat. They are however, trying to get more of a unified look and unified experience. This won't hamper app development but yet make developers work a little harder than writing sloppy code just to make a few quick bucks. I think they are "trying" for an apple approach to..."it just works" and I'm all for that.

The only thing that is irking me though is the fact of ads. They slapped adds in Gmail and a few other apps over the years making it cheap feeling. I know Google is an advertising company but slamming ads in every nook and cranny they can think of is a no-go for me. Just look at the new dialer in 4.4. Google says that's old code. OK. Then why hasn't this been mentioned before in other iterations of the dialer? I think they were/are planning to add ads to the dialer in some fashion. My god, Sprint added ads to the voicemail app....ridiculous.... and it's 1.99 a month to get rid of them!

I love android. I do. But more and more ads are making it look and feel cheap. I know I can always root and rom but I shouldn't have too. With all this said, Samsung needs Google as much as Google needs Samsung. Period.
 
Not any time soon? I can completely delete Google from this device. Even the play store.
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Samsung Search? Samsung Maps. Maybe in the works.

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I do believe Samsung is is working on search. They have some already great search algorithms on the device. I think they would have to go third party on maps. Idk though.

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