Phone first out of the box... How do you cycle the battery first few charges.

[HyperTF2]

So I usually charge my phone just out of the box to full charge then power it up for the first time. Then I run the phone till its dead. Then I charge it fully and run it till its dead again 3-4 times. Anyone else do this? Good or bad? What do you do?

 

[scorpiodsu]

Just charge it when it needs to be charged. All that charging cycle mumbo jumbo is for the birds.

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[lt thistle]

Just charge it when it needs to be charged. All that charging cycle mumbo jumbo is for the birds.

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+1

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[JRDroid]

With older tech batteries, it was important to cycle because they could develop a memory. With modern batteries it doesn't do crap. Use your phone. Charge it when it needs it. Plug it in when you go to sleep. Unplug it when you wake up. Repeat.

 

[jiggyb21]

Not necessarily on topic but I will say that after the first couple of days I was pretty worried about the battery life. I let the phone die before charging it for a few days in a row. It's better now. I'm not saying it has anything to do with my actions but it was pretty bad the first couple days.

 

[androidluvr2]

So I usually charge my phone just out of the box to full charge then power it up for the first time. Then I run the phone till its dead. Then I charge it fully and run it till its dead again 3-4 times. Anyone else do this? Good or bad? What do you do?

With a lithium-ion battery, it is bad, very bad to do that. It is best to never let it get below 20%. You harm a lithium-ion battery by letting it go dead.

 

[scorpiodsu]

Not necessarily on topic but I will say that after the first couple of days I was pretty worried about the battery life. I let the phone die before charging it for a few days in a row. It's better now. I'm not saying it has anything to do with my actions but it was pretty bad the first couple days.

I think most people see better battery life after a few days because we aren't spending as much time downloading and tweaking stuff as we were when we first got the device. And then most became smarter about identifying things that were killing the battery and tweaking settings accordingly. I think that's why most of us see better life after a few days and nog so much because the battery has been "cycled" a few times. Just my opinion.

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[HyperTF2]

Thanks for the input guys. My Dad worked for Motorola for over 20 years and he told me that back in the day. Man we have come a long way from the brick phone...

 

[JRDroid]

Not necessarily on topic but I will say that after the first couple of days I was pretty worried about the battery life. I let the phone die before charging it for a few days in a row. It's better now. I'm not saying it has anything to do with my actions but it was pretty bad the first couple days.

I think most people see better battery life after a few days because we aren't spending as much time downloading and tweaking stuff as we were when we first got the device. And then most became smarter about identifying things that were killing the battery and tweaking settings accordingly. I think that's why most of us see better life after a few days and nog so much because the battery has been "cycled" a few times. Just my opinion.

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Ya, basically this. The first couple days you will be using it much more, downloading all your apps, playing with the camera, setting up your home screens, etc. That will make you run through the battery much more quickly.

 

[htowngator]

With a lithium-ion battery, it is bad, very bad to do that. It is best to never let it get below 20%. You harm a lithium-ion battery by letting it go dead.

Iirc this is lithium polymer not ion

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[jiggyb21]

I think most people see better battery life after a few days because we aren't spending as much time downloading and tweaking stuff as we were when we first got the device. And then most became smarter about identifying things that were killing the battery and tweaking settings accordingly. I think that's why most of us see better life after a few days and nog so much because the battery has been "cycled" a few times. Just my opinion.

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Ya, basically this. The first couple days you will be using it much more, downloading all your apps, playing with the camera, setting up your home screens, etc. That will make you run through the battery much more quickly.

I do agree but I'm talking about my first morning taking it off the charger at 6am making maybe a call or two, no surfing or anything. Picking it up at lunchtime and having 50-60% left. I was floored. Went like this for a few days barely using the phone, I didn't have time. The number started getting bigger and with the same non-use I'm looking at probably 80-85%. I was legitimately scared to come on here and find horrible battery threads or I figured I had a lemon.

 

[scorpiodsu]

I do agree but I'm talking about my first morning taking it off the charger at 6am making maybe a call or two, no surfing or anything. Picking it up at lunchtime and having 50-60% left. I was floored. Went like this for a few days barely using the phone, I didn't have time. The number started getting bigger and with the same non-use I'm looking at probably 80-85%. I was legitimately scared to come on here and find horrible battery threads.

Ok if you say so lol. No but seriously if that's what you see then that's awesome but there is no proof that "cycling" improves battery life. Just a lot of varied experiences from users. They've been talking about cycling and bump charging for years and still no solid evidence lol. If it was that simple that battery stickie wouldn't be so long lol. You also have to remember that your device caches your activity so doing the same processes over and over isn't the draining task that it was when initially used. That has to be considered as well.

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[jiggyb21]

Ok if you say so lol. No but seriously if that's what you see then that's awesome but there is no proof that "cycling" improves battery life. Just a lot of varied experiences from users. If it was that simple that battery stickie wouldn't be so long lol. You also have to remember that your device caches you activity so doing the same processes over and over isn't the draining task that it was when initially used. That has to be considered as well.

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I'll never understand people on here and their sarcastic disbelief of people's individual experience. I clearly said I agree with your sentiment on "cycling" today's batteries. I don't think that's what happened. I was thinking more along the lines of a software glitch where the battery meter wasn't reading properly. Anyway, the only reason I posted in the first place was in case someone experiences the same issue I did. Whatever caused it it is now better. Give it a few days.

I don't think electronics are as cut and dry as some people do. I don't know if they're going to learn and take over the world some day but I do think there are other variables at work. We all own the same phone but that doesn't mean they all "act" the same all the time.

 

[scorpiodsu]

I'll never understand people on here and their sarcastic disbelief of people's individual experience. I clearly said I agree with your sentiment on "cycling" today's batteries. I don't think that's what happened. I was thinking more along the lines of a software glitch where the battery meter wasn't reading properly. Anyway, the only reason I posted in the first place was in case someone experiences the same issue I did. Whatever caused it it is now better. Give it a few days.

I don't think electronics are as cut and dry as some people do. I don't know if they're going to learn and take over the world some day but I do think there are other variables at work. We all own the same phone but that doesn't mean they all "act" the same all the time.

I said if that's what you've seen then that's awesome. I actually meant it. Wasn't being facetious about it. Apologies if it came across that way. But I still have an opinion about it I'm general. Do you want me to now believe that cycling works before it may have worked for you? Come on now. I said good for you. But that doesnt mean I need to now believe it. I've had too many android over past 3 years to believe what any one user says when it comes to something that has not been proven by anyone. So one more time, I'm glad it worked for you but I'm still not sold. And that's based on my own experience and really that's all that matters at the moment.

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[munz19]

With older tech batteries, it was important to cycle because they could develop a memory. With modern batteries it doesn't do crap. Use your phone. Charge it when it needs it. Plug it in when you go to sleep. Unplug it when you wake up. Repeat.

What about leaving it plugged in for a few hours after its already fully charged? Such as at night, if its fully charged a few hours before i wake up does that harm the battery, long term, by doing that every night for the life of the phone?

 

[scorpiodsu]

What about leaving it plugged in for a few hours after its already fully charged? Such as at night, if its fully charged a few hours before i wake up does that harm the battery, long term, by doing that every night for the life of the phone?

Here's a good thread about the battery type we have. Not sure about it's validity but seems plausible.

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/smartphone-battery-discussion/209448-overcharging.html

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[JRDroid]

What about leaving it plugged in for a few hours after its already fully charged? Such as at night, if its fully charged a few hours before i wake up does that harm the battery, long term, by doing that every night for the life of the phone?

Essentially your phone stops charging and let's the battery drain to about 97% then charge back to 100%

 

[androidluvr2]

Iirc this is lithium polymer not ion

It's a lithium-ion polymer battery in the HTC One according to Anandtech. Anyhow, the same principles apply - don't drain it if you want to maximize its life. I would keep it above 20% if possible.

AnandTech | The HTC One Review

 

[BatteryLife100]

There really hasn't been much proof that battery cycling helps or harms the overall battery life of a phone so you should be fine by using it as normal. Just charge when needed there shouldn't be a problem.

 

[fz1jmp]

With a lithium-ion battery, it is bad, very bad to do that. It is best to never let it get below 20%. You harm a lithium-ion battery by letting it go dead.

The battery in the HTC One is a Lithium Polymer battery, the beauty of these batteries is they really don't keep a memory so you don't have to cycle em. If I remember correctly, you don't want them to go completely dead, so if you not going to use it in awhile, don't let it totally discharge fully.