Root Thunderbolt or Get 4G mifi

SpaceCracker

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My only source of internet is with a data card or mobile phone hotspot due to where i live. I was looking for advice as to which would be a better option. Getting a Thunderbolt and rooting it. (one click root whenever it comes out) or just getting the new 4g mifi when it comes out in the next few weeks and paying the overage charges that comes with that. I use between 10gb and 20gb per month of data. Im worried if i get the thunderbolt and root it, i will get caught for using so much data. Any thoughts? Thanks.
 
After 5/15, I would pay for hotspot or root. Beats adding another contract and $50 to your monthly bill.

FWIW, I've rooted and installed Wireless Tether. Getting speeds up to 40Mbps (down) at the office!
 
So rooting and wireless tether will get you "free" wifi data? I read somewhere about Verizon's unlimited data actually has a 5 GB cap, is this just rumor?
 
So rooting and wireless tether will get you "free" wifi data? I read somewhere about Verizon's unlimited data actually has a 5 GB cap, is this just rumor?

It will.

As for the unlimited data cap, I'm not sure if anyone has actually hit it because their 3G speeds are so poor. Until now, it would take 7 hours at best -- 21 hours for the average speed of 512Kbps -- to download 5 gigabytes of data.

With LTE, we can download 5GB in 30 minutes at peak speed. I did it with an LTE broadband card. Took roughly 30 minutes to download just under 5GB of data with an average data rate of about 34Mbps.

If the cap exists or not, you'll know you hit it when you see that extra $10/1GB overage charge... assuming that's how they will charge overage.
 
There isn't a 5GB "soft" cap anymore. He'd most likely fall under the new top 5% throttle policy though and they could assume he was breaking TOS and tethering. The other option is to actually pay for the MHS but that's only 2GB and $20/GB overage. Definitely not worth it to do it officially.
 
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5% Throttle Policy

There isn't a 5GB "soft" cap anymore. He'd most likely fall under the new top 5% throttle policy though and they could assume he was breaking TOS and tethering.

I've been very unhappy with my laptop's connection to Sprint's 4G/3G, and am seriously looking at the Verizon Wireless Thunderbolt option with wireless tether as a replacement. As I understand it, one gets the Thunderbolt (I know how to pay money and obtain a product), one connects to LTE (since I can connect to WiMax with my Evo Shift my guess is I can figure this out too), --

-- at which point I become pretty clueless.

As I understand it, here are the next steps:

Get rooted (have no idea how to do that),

Get the Wireless Tether ap and install (no idea how to do that either),

Create a hotspot with Wireless Tether to which my laptop can connect (again a big, fat, Huh?).

In addition, there seems to be other things here to which I need the answers.

First, I've been reading a few remarks here and there about how certain root processes no longer work on 'Droids because of something called signature checking on the bootloader, whatever that is. What's that all about?

Second, backup. What, if anything, do I need to backup during this process? How do I do backup? When do I do it? Before rooting? After rooting? Do I do it more than once? Before installing wireless tether? After successfully creating my hotspot?

Second, temporary root or permanent root? I have no idea about the differences or how to implement one or the other.

What process is involved to ensure that the Thunderbolt's Hotspot is using LTE rather than 3G, since that's what I want to use to drive my laptop's Internet connection?

And if all of this doesn't work out within Verizon Wireless's 14-day trial period, how do I reconfigure the Thunderbolt back the way it was when I got it out of the store in order not to void the 14-day trial period and get my money back, minus prorated charges and the restocking fee?

Finally, about that 5% throttle policy, with 3G I used to download an average of 14 gigs a month. Now that I've been on Sprint 4G WiMax since November, my rough guess is that I've been downloading about 30 gigs a month. (Sprint does NOT track your 4G usage unfortunately, so I'm pretty much in the dark here and am guessing, based on my "feel" about my usage relative to what I actually know it was, back on 3G.)

So will 30 gigs a month be enough to kick me into the 5% category?

Those are all the questions I can think of for now, but stay tuned!

And thanks for any and all replies.
 
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I'd say you would be throttled for using that much. I was worried about getting throttled for half of that. I am a noob as far as the rooting aspect. I would have tried to root my Thunderbolt but it will be sent back next week. My 3g speeds are so slow i cant even stream a movie. Wish i had your option of Sprint 4g and Verizon LTE. If Sprint lets you download that much without problems at a fast speed i wouldnt risk changing carriers. Just my opinion.
 
Rooted Thunderbolt vs. Sprint 4G

If Sprint lets you download that much without problems at a fast speed i wouldnt risk changing carriers.

Yes, I'm slowly coming to that conclusion as well. Still, unlimited uploads at 2 mbps is sorely tempting. Oh well.
 
What are your download & upload speeds with Sprint 4 G?

Here's what I'm getting at the moment:

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Note that I AM getting what I'm paying for. Sprint specifies average download speeds between 3 and 6 mbps and average upload speeds of 500 kbps to 1 mbps, and clearly that's exactly what I'm getting. But the fact is that Verizon Wireless LTE specs 5 to 12 mbps download and 2 to 4 mbps upload. Not a significant difference in the download, or at least I doubt I'd notice it, but a really sizable difference in the upload, due to Sprint's decision to cap upload speeds at 1 mbps, a decision of which they will inform you freely if you ask their telephone tech support point blank. And I upload a lot of stuff to my ftp site constantly, and it would really make a difference to me.

I once asked Sprint if they would consider a trade-off on my account, capping my download speed at 4 mbps in exchange for a 3 mbps upload speed, but they said they don't have the capability of assigning caps per user.
 
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but you don't need to root to get free tethering. You can use that app called easytether lite, which is free from the Market. In the meantime, you can enjoy free mobile hotspot till May 15th.
 
Gotta say I didn't know that. Then why is it that ISPs throttle download speeds rather than upload speeds?

Most people aren't uploading that much. That's why the uploads rates are significantly less than download unless you specify matching speeds which is $texas. Call your ISP and see how much it'll cost to bump up your upload speed, then see how much it'll cost to increase your download speed the same amount. The latter will be much cheaper.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but you don't need to root to get free tethering. You can use that app called easytether lite, which is free from the Market. In the meantime, you can enjoy free mobile hotspot till May 15th.

PDAnet will do the same but believe those only work over USB or bluetooth
 
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but you don't need to root to get free tethering. You can use that app called easytether lite, which is free from the Market. In the meantime, you can enjoy free mobile hotspot till May 15th.

Wow!!! That would really make my life easier. Which means there's really NEVER any reason for me to root my phone, correct? Remember I'm a rank beginner when it comes to this stuff, so that may obviously be a stupid question.
 
If you're only using a computer, it should be fine. There are limitations to the free versions like blocking https, etc but even the paid versions are cheaper than 1 month of mobile hotspot.
 

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