Rooting different for Telus?

[Japots]

I've also heard that some people claim that its just a placebo effect and it only gives you a high quadrant score. I can only give you feedback based on my own experience:

1. My quadrant score did shoot up and for all I know, the lag caused by FroYo root install disappeared when I rebooted my phone (necessary step after applying OCLF) and had nothing to do with OCLF. But I'd rather keep OCLF regardless, since I felt difference in performance, placebo or otherwise.

2. I would rank this app having as much risk as rooting your phone.

3. Heard about that. I followed the steps listed in the link I posted above step by step starting from when I installed FroYo. Nothing crashed my phone, but your mileage may vary.

4. Theres some extra tweaks within the app that change the disk scheduler and how the phone handles ram (minfree). You can't concretely measure the benefits of these tweaks on battery life. What I do know is I get longer battery life from when I first got my fascinate. See 1 regarding placebo effect.

 

[sdmf]

Japots - I just installed Ryanz OCLF 2.0 etc from the market, HOWEVER, when I go into it, all options are "unavailable" and says I need to be rooted and gives me the option to force anyway.

I rooted (or thought i did) the other day using z4root. Just tried Z4root again and it seems to run then closes down on me. with No further messages.

Any quick easy way I can tell if Im currently rooted or not? Actually I'll research that now I guess. Strange though...

eek- now my phones acting weird....everythings responding very slow, and when I try to re-open z4root, it just gives me a quick vibration and doesnt do anything....lol. Whats goin on here...

 

[Ronindan]

Japots - I just installed Ryanz OCLF 2.0 etc from the market, HOWEVER, when I go into it, all options are "unavailable" and says I need to be rooted and gives me the option to force anyway.

I rooted (or thought i did) the other day using z4root. Just tried Z4root again and it seems to run then closes down on me. with No further messages.

Any quick easy way I can tell if Im currently rooted or not? Actually I'll research that now I guess. Strange though...

eek- now my phones acting weird....everythings responding very slow, and when I try to re-open z4root, it just gives me a quick vibration and doesnt do anything....lol. Whats goin on here...

It look like there is an app that giving you a problem. Try to do a hard reboot (batt pull) to see if everything works well after that. The last time I used z4root on my fascinate, I have to do a batt pull to make sure everything is fine.

 

[sdmf]

Just tried again. Appears I wasnt root after all. Here's what I went through just now.

Rebooted (twice)
Uninstalled z4root
Downloaded another version of z4root
turned off antivirus (lookout)
Resintalled z4root and tried again to root
results=runs for about 10-15 seconds then kicks me out to the apps screen.

Any other ideas? I'll try to remove lookout, pull battery and run again. I've also confirmed that USB debugging is on

 

[sdmf]

Welp - no workie for me. confirming z4root shuts down and kicks me back to my apps pages while it was in this stage "acquiring root ..." it sits at this stage for maybe 10-15 seconds then, phone vibrates once, and closes.

oh well I'm not too worried about anything yet. I'll get'er firgured out

 

[Ronindan]

Just tried again. Appears I wasnt root after all. Here's what I went through just now.

Rebooted (twice)
Uninstalled z4root
Downloaded another version of z4root
turned off antivirus (lookout)
Resintalled z4root and tried again to root
results=runs for about 10-15 seconds then kicks me out to the apps screen.

Any other ideas? I'll try to remove lookout, pull battery and run again. I've also confirmed that USB debugging is on

Sorry man, I am out of ideas. When I used Z4root i let run for almost 10 minutes and nothing was happening. I stopped the program and ran it again. The same thing happened, I just kept starring at that blue screen. That is when I did the batt pull. I know it worked since titanium backup and the reboot widget (installed) worked.

 

[Ronindan]

Welp - no workie for me. confirming z4root shuts down and kicks me back to my apps pages while it was in this stage "acquiring root ..." it sits at this stage for maybe 10-15 seconds then, phone vibrates once, and closes.

oh well I'm not too worried about anything yet. I'll get'er firgured out

Yeah that is why i want to root my fascinate the "old school" way so I will know where the issues are.

 

[DroidXcon]

Go to my thread. How to flash full DL09 . Look in the 2nd post try that to root. It should work on all versions of fascinate. Please let me know how it went

Yeah that is why i want to root my fascinate the "old school" so I will know where the issues are.

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[sdmf]

Go to my thread. How to flash full DL09 . Look in the 2nd post try that to root. It should work on all versions of fascinate. Please let me know how it went

Ok here's where the process is f'in up for me:
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C:\FascinateRoot_v02>adb devices
List of devices attached
1000b003c01c device

C:\FascinateRoot_v02>adb push su /sdcard/su
cannot stat 'su': No such file or directory

C:\FascinateRoot_v02>
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*how can i undo anything I did and retry? Is it as simple as restarting from step 1?

Thanks so much in advance for this!

 

[Japots]

Sorry I can't help regarding z4root. I used OneClickRoot on my phone and it was as simple as hooking my phone up to my PC while in USB debug mode and clicking "Root" on the application. This only works on Fascinates upgraded to Telus stock 2.2 though (the one from Kies or the leaked one from xda)

A surefire way to know if your phone is rooted is if you have an app called "Super User" in your app list. This basically gives some apps that require root acces (such as OCLF, SetCPU, RootExplorer, Adfree) the permissions to do their thing. I'm 75% sure this app is common among all rooting methods.

For OCLF, follow the help file regarding the suggested steps of installing stuff. IIRC, its install EXT tools, LagFix v2, then the minfree and scheduler.

 

[sdmf]

SUCCESS!!!! (in rooting that is)..... brb with more info and status on OCLF

 

[sdmf]

OK ALL DONE! (je$us, its much easier to focus at work then at home with a bunch of kids running around).

Anyways, OLCF is now installed etc. Ran quadrant with a final score of 1863. Much better and everything is running great. Now the OCD side of me is wondering how to get my score up to 2000+ like most others...lol.

Many Many Thanks to all here. Not sure what happened when trying to root last night, the only difference being is that I'm on my WinXP laptop vs my Win7x64 desktop last night....oh well DroidX your instructions were spot on (from your second post as you directed...) thanks again.

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Successful Procedure Here: http://forum.androidcentral.com/526222-post739.html
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[Ronindan]

OK ALL DONE! (je$us, its much easier to focus at work then at home with a bunch of kids running around).

Anyways, OLCF is now installed etc. Ran quadrant with a final score of 1863. Much better and everything is running great. Now the OCD side of me is wondering how to get my score up to 2000+ like most others...lol.

Many Many Thanks to all here. Not sure what happened when trying to root last night, the only difference being is that I'm on my WinXP laptop vs my Win7x64 desktop last night....oh well DroidX your instructions were spot on (from your second post as you directed...) thanks again.

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Successful Procedure Here: http://forum.androidcentral.com/526222-post739.html
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Congrats.

 

[jhm83]

I rooted the telus fascinate using superoneclick. It worked great. I cant remeber where i found it though. The only thing I did notice is that the phone has a real bad lag after rooting. The fix was to pull battery and leave it out for a bit and then restart your phone. Just wondering if there are any custom roms or kernels or even themes built yet for the telus version of the galaxy?

 

[DroidXcon]

Ok here's where the process is f'in up for me:
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C:\FascinateRoot_v02>adb devices
List of devices attached
1000b003c01c device

C:\FascinateRoot_v02>adb push su /sdcard/su
cannot stat 'su': No such file or directory

C:\FascinateRoot_v02>
----------------------------------------------

*how can i undo anything I did and retry? Is it as simple as restarting from step 1?

Thanks so much in advance for this!

Im totally sorry i missed this posting ....what happened here was either it was a bad file download to begin with, or either su got deleted or moved out of the FascinateRoot_v02 folder.

i am still really interested in finding out if any of the verizon fascinate methods work for the telus version

in theory the adb method should work.....

as far as undoing if files were pushed into your phone, doing the steps over would just over write anything that was already placed,,,,,but at the point you were at you probably had already achieved temporary root so you would have had to do a battery pull and start over.

I am glad you got it rooted.

if anyone is willing to try ADB method found here i would like to hear if you could make it happen

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ALSO can everyone list off how they rooted , if possible include links, and any modifications you had to do to make it work . Thanks in advance

 

[sdmf]

no problemo Pal. Phone still working great, but the only problem which is driving me NUTS is the battery life. its pretty much sheit. Gonna try to figure out something when I have more time.

 

[Japots]

Just wondering if there are any custom roms or kernels or even themes built yet for the telus version of the galaxy?

Voodoo Kernel has been ported over to our Telus Fascinate (SGH-T959D). There's also a guide in xda-developers to install custom roms.

Basically most custom roms for the Vibrant (without a bootloader) should be compatible with our Fascinate.

 

[jhm83]

Voodoo Kernel has been ported over to our Telus Fascinate (SGH-T959D). There's also a guide in xda-developers to install custom roms.

Basically most custom roms for the Vibrant (without a bootloader) should be compatible with our Fascinate.

ok now i know this will sound dumb because I asked for one but what exactly will a custom kernal do for me? I am a noob so pardon the ignorance

 

[Japots]

I'm fairly new at this myself so someone correct me if my understanding is wrong:

You can think of a kernel as the middleman between your hardware (your phone) and its software (the rom). Basically, if some software instructions require something from the hardware (process this file, allocate some ram, trigger camera, etc), it relies on the kernel to interpret that request and trigger the proper response by the hardware.

With custom roms (software), they might add functionality, tweak performance, or try to port a rom from a different phone over (ex. running the Nexus S rom on your Galaxy S).

In these cases, the software would be talking to the hardware in a different language than the hardware is expecting. Your kernel might not be able to interpret the requests by the software to the hardware and you get weird behaviour or in the worst case, brick your phone.


tl;dr Custom kernels can improve how your current rom works with your phone (ex. Voodoo lag-fix/sound/color) and/or allow custom roms (ex. nerov5, bionix, etc) to work with your phone.

 

[jhm83]

So do you recommend trying the custom kernels then or wait till I am more experienced with android os