I went to the Verizon store the other day to see if my contract was up (I knew it was but it wasn't showing on my computer)...anyway, I told them I wasn't looking to buy a phone that day, I was waiting for one of the new phones to come out. They asked me which I was waiting for and I told them I was waiting for the Thunderbolt...the rep looked really confused, like he had no idea what I was talking about, then all if a sudden he acted like he knew and told me it wouldn't be out for a few months and told me to come back next week because they were getting Verizons 1st 4g phone called the Incredible HD. HA! I didn't want to sound like a know-it-all customer, so I said ok thank you..and left...anyway, obviously he didn't have a clue, but maybe he did hear something about it coming next week...I wouldn't hold my breath though lol