Smart Actions Question

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I have a Home action that triggers on connection to my WiFi. I have a Car action that triggers on Bluetooth connection to my car. What I'd like to do is create an action that turns on cellular data when I am not home and not in the car - out running, for example. Is there a "not" condition in Smart Actions that I can use? I haven't been able to find one. Any other ideas?
 
If you're out running you can set up a smart action that turns on cellular data when headphones are plugged in.
 
I don't use it for music. And there are other instances where I'm neither home nor in the car, nor in any particular location, and would like the phone to make the switch.
 
My understanding is that the system settings are employed except when the trigger conditions hold. If my understanding is right, it seems to me that if you have cellular data turned on in system settings and have one smart action to turn cellular data off while on bluetooth and another to turn cellular data off while on wifi, then when on neither bluetooth nor wifi cellular data should be on. Is that not the case? Or am I not understanding what you're trying to accomplish?
 
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Ah ha! You are exactly right. I just tested it. I enabled cellular data, then turned the Home action off and on. It disabled cellular data. I left the house and walked down the block. The WiFi connection held on like a pitbull, but eventually it disconnected and cellular data turned on. On the way back, I was on my driveway before the Home action triggered, turning off cellular data and connecting via WiFi.

The one remaining nit is that WiFi needs to be on for this to work, and WiFi keeps telling me about other systems in the area I might want to connect to. Still needs some work, but thank you for the knowledge.

[UPDATE: Nit fixed. Just turn off the three check boxes "Notify me" (under WiFi Autostart Reminders), "Open Network" and "Secure Network" (under Network notification) and the searching and nagging goes away.]
 
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[UPDATE: Nit fixed. Just turn off the three check boxes "Notify me" (under WiFi Autostart Reminders), "Open Network" and "Secure Network" (under Network notification) and the searching and nagging goes away.]

Thank you! That was annoying me too. Fixed now.

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You can also download WiFi Auto app from the market place. What it does is automatically turns off Wifi when you leave home (thus triggering your cellular data to come on) and then it auto turns on your Wifi when you come back home, (thus turning off your cellular data. This keeps you from having to always have Wifi on and lessens the battery drain from the Wifi always being on. You can keep your smart actions as they are now.



Ah ha! You are exactly right. I just tested it. I enabled cellular data, then turned the Home action off and on. It disabled cellular data. I left the house and walked down the block. The WiFi connection held on like a pitbull, but eventually it disconnected and cellular data turned on. On the way back, I was on my driveway before the Home action triggered, turning off cellular data and connecting via WiFi.

The one remaining nit is that WiFi needs to be on for this to work, and WiFi keeps telling me about other systems in the area I might want to connect to. Still needs some work, but thank you for the knowledge.

[UPDATE: Nit fixed. Just turn off the three check boxes "Notify me" (under WiFi Autostart Reminders), "Open Network" and "Secure Network" (under Network notification) and the searching and nagging goes away.]
 
Okay, you guys are great!!! :D

I setup my Home Smart Action, well it set itself up. But what I wanted was it to restart 3/4G without me having to touch the phone. I did what was report above and it worked. It did take a while (a minute or 2 later) for the cellular data connection to re-establish but it did.

Also, the notification recommendation worked well as well.
 
If it recognizes you're back home and reconnects to wifi wouldn't that imply that the wifi is on the whole time? Or is it using mobile data for location?
 
Hmmm. All I can say is that I tried to send a text and it actually gave me an error message that services were off.
 
OK, maybe it just won't do certain things. I did try to send a text to multiple recipients and that wouldn't go, but individual texts do come and go. Thanks. Back to the trials!
 
If it recognizes you're back home and reconnects to wifi wouldn't that imply that the wifi is on the whole time? Or is it using mobile data for location?

I don't know. I did test it by walking out of the house and down the street, while connected to my WiFi. As I rounded a curve the WiFi turned off and cellular data came on. On the way back, I was on my driveway when cellular data turned off and WiFi connected to my system.

Right now I'm trying Smart Actions together with Juice Defender. I have a JD profile schedule that will turn on WiFi only every 15 minutes, and when the screen is on. I find that my Smart Actions profile is off until WiFi gets turned on (WiFi connection is the triggering action), then it gets activated until I turn off the screen. So now WiFi is on for only about 1 minute out of 5 during busy hours and 1 out of 15 during slow times instead of being on constantly. I haven't tried taking it for a walk so I don't know what will happen, yet.

My battery is currently at 57% after 21.5 hours on battery, though that included a night of sleep. Still, the battery can easily last an 18 hour day then go on the charger overnight, given my usage pattern. I tweeted Phil a question for tonight's podcast asking how his devices' batteries held up at CES. That must have been a real torture test.
 
I'm still 80% after 11 hours! Minimal use today other than a shower of texts early, couple of calls, and again, in home office with wifi all day. Still, that's pretty amazing. (One run of Angry Birds knocked it from 90 to 80!)
 
OK, maybe it just won't do certain things. I did try to send a text to multiple recipients and that wouldn't go, but individual texts do come and go. Thanks. Back to the trials!

I believe that texts sent to multiple recipients is considered an MMS, therefore needing a data connection.

If I'm on wifi with data disabled and I get a picture message I have to enable data to get the picture.

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Hi, I am new to the razr and thought I had my smart actions set like I wanted. I realized today that I have a weird problem. I have two location based actions that are messing up.

1. Home smart action is set to turn off bluetooth, turn off data, ringer at 100%

2. Church smart action is set to put phone in silent mode, turn data off.

When i got home today my church smart action turned on. I live 15 minutes away from church! I could not force the phone to connect to my home smart action. When I looked to see what wifi I was connected to, it is connected to my home network. I also looked to see the location set for church and the little map showed the street where my church is. The past couple of mornings my alarm was not going off so now i believe it is because the smart action that was triggered is the church smart action since I have my phone set to not sound the alarm while in silent mode. I just deleted the church smart action for now, but I would like for my settings to work properly. I turned the phone off and back on to see if the home smart action would then pick up, but it did not. Is there any help out there?
 
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