TB DELAYS and (RUMORED) TECH ISSUES MIGHT DRIVE ME to iPHONE

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i've been patiently waiting for the thunderbolt but i am now seriously considering the iphone. i have a rooted eris which i HATE. but i do like android and don't particularly like the idea of itunes-ifying my pc. HOWEVER, some of the thunderbolt features that i was most looking forward to - skype and netflix are the two biggies - have now come into question. i'm not in a 4g area (yet) so that's not a huge factor. and i would miss the screen size of the 'bolt (i am 6'9" with huge hands). but right now the features, availability and build quality of the iphone are seriously tempting me. i think if i KNEW that skype and netflix were coming to the thunderbolt and were as well integrated as the iphone's then i wouldn't mind waiting. as it stands, i'm not so sure. anyone else second-guessing skipping the 'bolt for the iphone now?
 

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If you have huge hands you wont be able to type on the Iphone it sucks....since I have big hands and I cant type worth a darn on it.
 

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Netflix was never a feature destined for the Thunderbolt since CES or during MWC, but it may become available later down the line since Netflix is pursuing Android integration and specifically with the latest Snapdragon processor. Skype will be available on the TB, but may not necessarily be at launch (as some rumors state). Both PlayOn and Tango are great alternatives to both Netflix support and video chatting.

After insisting that my wife wanted an iPhone 4, I got her one. The build and general smoothness of the phone is impressive, no doubt. There are plenty of apps to keep you entertained I guess, but I just don't like how there isn't a synergy between applications and features (FB contacts being synced to your contacts for example). I also have a philosophical problem with the way the regime runs their business, so I will try to support it as little as possible.

In the end it is your choice to wait or not. Android is open enough to have a solution for everything you need or want, and the TB is going to be hands down the fastest and probably last great super smart phone that is still a single core.
 

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I bought an iphone for my wife and myself the day they were released for verizon. She loves hers, I returned mine less than 24 hours later because of the lack of synergy. I love google maps and use it daily as well as the gmail integration, and I like htc sense (I've had the dinc for almost a year), but I might buy one again for skype and netflix if the TB doesn't have skype. I work long hours and that would have been a fantastic way for me to keep in touch with my small children especially living in a 4g area. Hopefully the tb will be released in the next week with skype working properly.
 

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Do keep in mind that the Skype and Netflix issues are still just unsourced rumors, and do not carry enough weight to influence the decision of purchasing this phone or not

Skype functionality is hardwired into the OS (like HTC Sense if you've ever used that before). It's not as simple as just deleting an app; you can't just remove it a week before launch. They may have a minor issue with it now so they may have disabled certain aspects of it temporarily, but it was just demoed on a TB at MWC this past week

As for Netflix, they promised that the Snapdragon processors will get it first. The LG Revolution that was shown running Netflix and that phone has the exact same processor as the TB, so the TB should have the same DRM keys the LG has

If I were in Vegas and had to bet money on this, I'd would put money on the fact that you will see Netflix and Skype on the TB - if not at launch, then very soon after
 
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I already had the 3G, 3GS, and tried the iPhone 4 for a bit, but it was just more of the same (as expected) in a nicer package. I'm way too sick of iOS to even think about buying another iPhone at this point, and I like all the customization that android offers with custom roms and whatnot.

And build quality on the iPhone - sure it's good, but the glass can scratch or shatter rather easily.

If you're fine with iOS then so be it. Maybe just give the iPhone 4 a try for a couple days and decide if you can stand it. I'd advice against it though simply because the next iteration will be out in July.
 
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This will be my 1st Android phone and I was considering the iPhone. It really comes down to your overall needs. I want user controlled customization as much as possible. The iPhone looks really good but for me the 2 are very different for my needs. I cannot customize iPhone to my liking and Skype/Netflix issues will probably be worked out pretty quick for the Thunderbolt after launch if it isn't already.
 

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am i dumb for assuming the iphone5 is going to vzw in june-ish.

iphone4vzw has dual band chips in it right? maybe they bought a stockpile of those for future releases on both carriers?
i have the been there done that attitude for the iphone, and now am waiting patiently for the t-bolt
 

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definitely considering trying out the iphone and seeing how it works for me. the whole "don't get the iphone 4 because the iphone 5 is in the immediate pipeline" argument doesn't hold much water for me because the same can be said for the thunderbolt or any other android device. there's always some kind of upgraded technology right around the corner. i'd have to reconcile my issues with the cult of steve jobs and everything "i" as well as figure out if the size will work for me in the long term. assuming the 'bolt gets released by early march i won't be making a decision til i can test them side by side.
 

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yeah thats a valid argument. but apple holds back tech so much. the next iphone will have something on it that will make the old one look archaic.

try the iphone, i liked mine when i had it. my only gripes were that the screen was tiny, att blows, and syncing with my Linux computer was a pain in the butt.

while im on the topic: is syncing android devices easy with ubuntu? wireless syncing would be sweet too. Any ideas?
 

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@ shocka

The reason people aren't buying the iPhone4 is because it is way outdated compared to what is available right now (not down the road)

I've posted this before, but I'll toss it up here again since it's relevant. Someone made this chart that compares features of the iPhone4 vs the TB (follow the link then click the image to make it larger - the iPhone only wins 1 category out of over 30):

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@ shocka

The reason people aren't buying the iPhone4 is because it is way outdated compared to what is available right now (not down the road)

I've posted this before, but I'll toss it up here again since it's relevant. Someone made this chart that compares features of the iPhone4 vs the TB (follow the link then click the image to make it larger - the iPhone only wins 1 category out of over 30):

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kind of playing devil's advocate here because i am definitively NOT an apple fanboy. but the iphone's success isn't based on specs alone but how everything works together seamlessly. it's the same argument people have used in this forum when arguing against a motorola dual core device. the specs are great but (especially with blur) it just doesn't all work together that well. the iphone tech might not be the bleeding edge spec for spec but everyone seems to agree that it all just works well together.
 

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Ya, I have been considering it ALOT over the past few days, in large part due to frustration over the T-Bolt launch. However there are two things keeping me from buying it screen size (it's too small imo) I have an OG droid which has a slightly bigger screen and I have a little trouble texting on it, I mainly use the physical kb on it because of that. I also really dislike the fact that there is no message indicator. I reallllly like the message indicator and Iphone not having it is a turn off. Outside of those 2 issues I love just about everything else about the iphone.
 

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kind of playing devil's advocate here because i am definitively NOT an apple fanboy. but the iphone's success isn't based on specs alone but how everything works together seamlessly. it's the same argument people have used in this forum when arguing against a motorola dual core device. the specs are great but (especially with blur) it just doesn't all work together that well. the iphone tech might not be the bleeding edge spec for spec but everyone seems to agree that it all just works well together.

Sure, I respect your opinion and in no way do I intend to start a flame war :)

2 years ago I used to HATE Android (I was a Windows Mobile fanboy). But Android has come a loooong way since then and has improved in too many ways to even list. 2 years ago the iPhone was the best smartphone option on the market, but little has improved since that time (besides an improved screen and wireless printing, they haven't done much else), while other OSes (Android in particular) have not only caught up to, but have actually passed iOS in many consumers minds

BGR.com is known for being Apple fanboys, but this article is a must read in that it shows that iOS isn't all that it's cracked up to be and falls very short in many key areas that alternative OSes (like Android) do offer (stick with it, he doesn't really get started until the 6th paragraph):

The iPhone is the worst?€? | BGR | Boy Genius Report

Again, I do not show this to start a flame war and if you decide to get an iPhone then I will be happy that you got what you wanted and will congratulate your purchase. But Apple is the master at convincing people that what they offer is the best out there, even if it isn't
 

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definitely considering trying out the iphone and seeing how it works for me. the whole "don't get the iphone 4 because the iphone 5 is in the immediate pipeline" argument doesn't hold much water for me because the same can be said for the thunderbolt or any other android device. there's always some kind of upgraded technology right around the corner. i'd have to reconcile my issues with the cult of steve jobs and everything "i" as well as figure out if the size will work for me in the long term. assuming the 'bolt gets released by early march i won't be making a decision til i can test them side by side.

I understand the argument that there's always something newer around the corner, but I don't think it really applies here. The TBolt is the best of what's available right now (okay, in the next week or two, probably). The only big feature on the horizon that it doesn't have is dual-core. The iPhone 4 is a generation behind right now, and is missing features that phones available now have. It'd be kinda like buying a Droid 2 now - not a bad phone at all, but if you're gonna spend the money and sign a contract, why not have the latest and greatest?
 

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while im on the topic: is syncing android devices easy with ubuntu? wireless syncing would be sweet too. Any ideas?

I'm using droid and Ubuntu. What do you want to sync? My phone currently sync with Google, Facebook, and Exchange for work. I can see everything on the computer by going to the appropriate websites. I haven't used it personally, but I hear Dropbox works fine for syncing files OTA. I haven't had very good luck with Bluetooth connectivity between them, though.
 

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I'm using droid and Ubuntu. What do you want to sync? My phone currently sync with Google, Facebook, and Exchange for work. I can see everything on the computer by going to the appropriate websites. I haven't used it personally, but I hear Dropbox works fine for syncing files OTA. I haven't had very good luck with Bluetooth connectivity between them, though.

mainly media. i didnt think of drop box,thats a great idea.
 

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I understand the argument that there's always something newer around the corner, but I don't think it really applies here. The TBolt is the best of what's available right now (okay, in the next week or two, probably). The only big feature on the horizon that it doesn't have is dual-core. The iPhone 4 is a generation behind right now, and is missing features that phones available now have. It'd be kinda like buying a Droid 2 now - not a bad phone at all, but if you're gonna spend the money and sign a contract, why not have the latest and greatest?

a lot of folks would argue that the lack of dual core makes the 'bolt the best-spec'd last generation phone rather than the best next-gen phone. it certainly doesn't have a next-gen screen... not sure where i stand on this honestly. if the thunderbolt, in practice, works seamlessly and ends up incorporating things like netflix and skype i would be thrilled to stick with android. philosophically i much prefer it. tbd i suppose...
 

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