TB w/4G vs Iphone 4S w/dual 3G

[tcorkum]

So being an avid TB user and supporter it was difficult, but I just ordered two Iphone 4S's for my kids. Both former Moto Android users.

The one feature I was most interested in was Apples claim of near 4G speeds with the double 3G antenna. I understand the concept, but what does everyone here think about the reality?

Anyone here jumping ship?

 

[watson387]

I definitely won't be jumping ship. iPhones always seemed like children's toys to me.

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[jdr44]

My thought is that apple spoke of theoretical maximum speeds. Don't think they will be close on real world....I guess we'll find out. My take had always been that iPhones are great for people that are not technically inclined, but they are get limiting. Just depends on your preference.

I will not be jumping to apple.
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[Kronko]

So being an avid TB user and supporter it was difficult, but I just ordered two Iphone 4S's for my kids. Both former Moto Android users.

The one feature I was most interested in was Apples claim of near 4G speeds with the double 3G antenna. I understand the concept, but what does everyone here think about the reality?

Anyone here jumping ship?

No. No way to know until you have a phone in your hands that has new features.

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[PJnc284]

The one feature I was most interested in was Apples claim of near 4G speeds with the double 3G antenna. I understand the concept, but what does everyone here think about the reality?

I think you're mis-understanding the dual radios in the phone. In the US, the "4g-like" speeds only apply if you purchased it from AT&T and are running it on their network. You'd get theoretical speeds of up to 14.4Mbps (maybe 3-5Mbps in real life) on their HSDPA network. Being that you purchased it from Verizon, you will be using the cdma radio and be limited to the EVDO Rev A speeds of up to 3.4Mbps (1-2Mbps realistically). Either way LTE on the Thunderbolt will blow the doors off of any speeds you'll see on the 4S.

 

[defcon999]

So being an avid TB user and supporter it was difficult, but I just ordered two Iphone 4S's for my kids. Both former Moto Android users.

The one feature I was most interested in was Apples claim of near 4G speeds with the double 3G antenna. I understand the concept, but what does everyone here think about the reality?

Anyone here jumping ship?

Not me either. I think the 4S is just a stop gap before the iPhone 5. Now the iPad....that's another thing....I am thinking of getting a iPad 2 after the iPad 3 comes out next year.

I just found a cool launcher called "qqlauncher. They have a skin that simulates an iPhone. The only thing I don't like about it is that you are limited to 4 screens and the default SENSE has 7....I like some of my widgets (weather, contacts, calendar) to take up the whole screen.

 

[PJnc284]

I'm using QQlauncher Pro and it allows you 9 screens. On your homescreen, hit menu-preview and just hit the one that has a + in it until you get the number of screens you want

 

[wildman]

Sounds to me that apple is pushing old technology as something new by twisting the facts... I do not see how two radios on one device will increase the connection speed of the device.

If you place two wireless cards in one pc it does not double your connection speed...

Sounds like a copy and paste marking twist again, copy and paste wasn't new but they made the iPhone users feel it was.. Its just to funny.

 

[Johnly]

So being an avid TB user and supporter it was difficult, but I just ordered two Iphone 4S's for my kids. Both former Moto Android users.

The one feature I was most interested in was Apples claim of near 4G speeds with the double 3G antenna. I understand the concept, but what does everyone here think about the reality?

Anyone here jumping ship?

I have always loved the iphone. Man they run well. Nothing is more optimized than an iphone an its apps. That said, android is still a baby, but growing up fast! My buddies old iphone is smooth like the sgs2. You better believe it will haul, they always do. Your kids will be happy. Apple knows what they are doing. They have a district advantage, full control, equaling a user experience that is unmatched.

 

[Johnly]

I think you're mis-understanding the dual radios in the phone. In the US, the "4g-like" speeds only apply if you purchased it from AT&T and are running it on their network. You'd get theoretical speeds of up to 14.4Mbps (maybe 3-5Mbps in real life) on their HSDPA network. Being that you purchased it from Verizon, you will be using the cdma radio and be limited to the EVDO Rev A speeds of up to 3.4Mbps (1-2Mbps realistically). Either way LTE on the Thunderbolt will blow the doors off of any speeds you'll see on the 4S.

I would target the iphone as the superior device compared to the TB. Only the sgsII and prime can even dream running ios smooth.

 

[PJnc284]

Never said Android on the Thunderbolt was smoother than iOS. This thread was about data speeds and a false claim that he'd see 4G-like speeds. And whether or not it's superior is a little subjective and is bound to vary from one person to another. For myself, I put functionality and the potential of a device ahead of something that looks pretty which is why I never have and likely never will own an iOS device.

 

[taylorz_412]

i think the only thing that apple and iphones have going for them is their simple clean cut design and how reliable they are

 

[gdbjr]

It isn't 2 radio's, it's 2 antennas. And the antennas are not for double the speed they are there to help prevent dropped calls. AT&T is the only network that you will see decent speeds. Not nearly the speeds you see with LTE, but way better then what you get on Verizon's 3G.

 

[OptimusNotPrime]

Nope i will not be jumping ship! I love 4G way to much lol.Hmm Wait let me Rephrase that I love "Verizon" 4G Way to much O

 

[dyinman]

i think the only thing that apple and iphones have going for them is their simple clean cut design and how reliable they are

Reliable? Compared to what? Because my Android phone (Evo) has been going non-stop for at least a couple months now. No app crashes unless it was a faulty app.

I never did buy the argument that Apple has a superior build or is more reliable than everybody else. It's bogus.

I think that if you like the way Apple wants you to do stuff, you would be very happy with an Apple device. Everything else is perspective.

As for the topic at hand... it has GSM and CDMA antennas. That's your dual antennas. It's for cross-network compatibility. Of course, if that's not what it is, then it's probably only relevant to AT&T's network. I'm not sure the FCC would approve of a bandwidth hog like that otherwise...

 

[Johnly]

Reliable? Compared to what? Because my Android phone (Evo) has been going non-stop for at least a couple months now. No app crashes unless it was a faulty app.

I never did buy the argument that Apple has a superior build or is more reliable than everybody else. It's bogus.

I think that if you like the way Apple wants you to do stuff, you would be very happy with an Apple device. Everything else is perspective.

As for the topic at hand... it has GSM and CDMA antennas. That's your dual antennas. It's for cross-network compatibility. Of course, if that's not what it is, then it's probably only relevant to AT&T's network. I'm not sure the FCC would approve of a bandwidth hog like that otherwise...

You will certainly find faulty apps with Android incompatibility. World phones require a sim card. That is nothing to do with the dual antenna.

 

[dyinman]

You will certainly find faulty apps with Android incompatibility. World phones require a sim card. That is nothing to do with the dual antenna.

I said cross-network compatibility, not global compatibility.

 

[Johnly]

I said cross-network compatibility, not global compatibility.

Same thing different term my friend. GSM/CDMA. You are right, only the GSM version duel antenna will throttle the device (who the hell said throttle means brake?) AT&T's is working with Apple to change the icon to 4g.

 

[FrankXS]

So being an avid TB user and supporter it was difficult, but I just ordered two Iphone 4S's for my kids. Both former Moto Android users.

The one feature I was most interested in was Apples claim of near 4G speeds with the double 3G antenna. I understand the concept, but what does everyone here think about the reality?

Anyone here jumping ship?

I think you're mis-understanding the dual radios in the phone. In the US, the "4g-like" speeds only apply if you purchased it from AT&T and are running it on their network. You'd get theoretical speeds of up to 14.4Mbps (maybe 3-5Mbps in real life) on their HSDPA network. Being that you purchased it from Verizon, you will be using the cdma radio and be limited to the EVDO Rev A speeds of up to 3.4Mbps (1-2Mbps realistically). Either way LTE on the Thunderbolt will blow the doors off of any speeds you'll see on the 4S.

I think PJnc is right. They were [over]hyping AT&T's WiMax (or HSDPA or whatever). You will be limited to the VZW 3G speeds. And I think PJnc's 1-2Mbps is over the top. I'd expect more like 1 down and .6 up, on average.

-Frank

 

[Jude526]

Nope i will not be jumping ship! I love 4G way to much lol.Hmm Wait let me Rephrase that I love "Verizon" 4G Way to much O

Verizon network is the best

sent from my Thunderbolt....and the thunder rolls !