The S6 leaves the M9 in the dust in benchmarks

[kinster02]

Not that care about benchmarks but according to Android police it smoked the M9.

Galaxy S6 Achieves Monstrously High Benchmark Scores, Leaves HTC One M9 In The Dust

From my Note 3 to thee

 

[abackholm]

Samsung has done quite impressive work with their Exynos chip. I bet they were happy to get away from Snapdragon, at least business-wise.

 

[Inders99]

HTC has lost their way...

 

[ibcop]

I'd tend to want to see the scores from "real world" devices - meaning two out of the box and see how they do then.

 

[p3ntyne]

HTC has lost their way...

At least the M9's battery will last more than a day.

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[anon(5844091)]

At least the M9's battery will last more than a day.

You've used both, yes?

 

[Jdroids]

Now they tested it on Geekbench, which I prefer more than Antutu.

Exynos 7420 (Galaxy S6) vs Snapdragon 810 (HTC One M9) vs Apple A8 (iPhone 6) benchmark scores

 

[p3ntyne]

You've used both, yes?

Well, you don't need to use the device to realise that:

The HTC One M9 has a 2840mah battery. It powers 2073600 when the display is on. Let the CPU efficiency = 100%. Therefore, each 1mah of battery would have to power approximately 730 at a time. Comparatively, the S6 will need to power 3686400 pixels with a 2550mah battery. According to Samsung's claims, the efficiency should = ~130%. Due to it having an AMOLED display, let's say only ~3.4 million pixels are lit a time. Unlike the HTC, each milliampere-hour must power approximately 1025 pixels at a time. If my calculations are correct, each mah from the HTC's battery should last 40% longer than that of the S6. (BTW, based on those calculations, the larger battery on the S6 Edge will change it from 40% to ~37.7%). Not to mention it's inclusion of the much less battery friendly TouchWiz...

Of course, this is only based on the display and battery - two of the many components that make up a phone. Real world usage will be very different. I figured that since the display is usually the most power draining aspect of a phone, it would be most accurate to base it on that. Also, if the HTC One m8 - with it's smaller battery - can last a day, the One M9 will (unless, of course, there is an issue with the new processor or Sense 7 etc.) And, I also don't believe Samsung is yet to confirm that the US and other countries will be getting the supposedly more efficient Exynos processor. If not, and the battery remains the same, it'll be even worse.

 

[Rmedy21]

I need to see real world stats

Amazing Verizon Galaxy Note 4

 

[Jdroids]

Well, you don't need to use the device to realise that:

The HTC One M9 has a 2840mah battery. It powers 2073600 when the display is on. Let the CPU efficiency = 100%. Therefore, each 1mah of battery would have to power approximately 730 at a time. Comparatively, the S6 will need to power 3686400 pixels with a 2550mah battery. According to Samsung's claims, the efficiency should = ~130%. Due to it having an AMOLED display, let's say only ~3.4 million pixels are lit a time. Unlike the HTC, each milliampere-hour must power approximately 1025 pixels at a time. If my calculations are correct, each mah from the HTC's battery should last 40% longer than that of the S6. (BTW, based on those calculations, the larger battery on the S6 Edge will change it from 40% to ~37.7%). Not to mention it's inclusion of the much less battery friendly TouchWiz...

Of course, this is only based on the display and battery - two of the many components that make up a phone. Real world usage will be very different. I figured that since the display is usually the most power draining aspect of a phone, it would be most accurate to base it on that. Also, if the HTC One m8 - with it's smaller battery - can last a day, the One M9 will (unless, of course, there is an issue with the new processor or Sense 7 etc.) And, I also don't believe Samsung is yet to confirm that the US and other countries will be getting the supposedly more efficient Exynos processor. If not, and the battery remains the same, it'll be even worse.

Your calculation is simply incorrect because you didn't factor in difference in display efficiency between LCD and AMOLED. Calculation based on pixels is only valid when comparing same type of display. Samsung has proven they can make very efficient QHD AMOLED in Note 4, which is better than 1080p Note 3 screen. Also there are other components like memory, WiFi/bluetooth chips, etc that makes S6 sip on power. And yes, Exynos is on all S6 models. Snapdragon is nowhere to be found on S6.

 

[p3ntyne]

Your calculation is simply incorrect because you didn't factor in difference in display efficiency between LCD and AMOLED. Calculation based on pixels is only valid when comparing same type of display. Samsung has proven they can make very efficient QHD AMOLED in Note 4, which is better than 1080p Note 3 screen. Also there are other components like memory, WiFi/bluetooth chips, etc that makes S6 sip on power. And yes, Exynos is on all S6 models. Snapdragon is nowhere to be found on S6.

I did factor in the efficiency of an AMOLED display. I am not exactly sure how great that difference is, but I did factor it in. And, I also factored in Samsung's claims that it would 30% more efficient - I would imagine that would include the extra efficiency of Wi-Fi/Bluetooth chips as well.

Also, don't forget it is based only on the displays, batteries and Samsung's claims for its efficiency. I already stated it would be very different in real world usage, but it's most likely the One M9 will have better battery life.

EDIT: After one more calculation, I figured that the S6's display would have to be over 152% as efficient as the One M9's (once again, in terms of battery and display only). It definitely isn't, it's probably only about 120%.

 

[Jdroids]

I did factor in the efficiency of an AMOLED display. I am not exactly sure how great that difference is, but I did factor it in. And, I also factored in Samsung's claims that it would 30% more efficient - I would imagine that would include the extra efficiency of Wi-Fi/Bluetooth chips as well.

No you didn't really. All you did is to compare the pixel numbers between two though you reduced pixel count on AMOLED a little from full resolution. That's not enough because it doesn't account for basic power draw difference between two panels as I mentioned above. And 30% efficiency gain is only for Exynos vs 20nm snapdragon. WiFi/GPS/Bluetooth is from brand new Broadcom chip separately, so this is gain on top of 30% from Exynos.

Broadcom’s BCM4773 Could be The Secret to the Galaxy S6's Battery Life | Androidheadlines.com

At this point, we are just guestimmating at best using some technical info reported. I would wait for Anandtech, GSMarena reviews before making any claims on performance, battery life.

 

[p3ntyne]

No you didn't really. All you did is to compare the pixel numbers between two though you reduced pixel count on AMOLED a little from full resolution. That's not enough because it doesn't account for basic power draw difference between two panels as I mentioned above. And 30% efficiency gain is only for Exynos vs 20nm snapdragon. WiFi/GPS/Bluetooth is from brand new Broadcom chip separately, so this is gain on top of 30% from Exynos.

Broadcom’s BCM4773 Could be The Secret to the Galaxy S6's Battery Life | Androidheadlines.com

At this point, we are just guestimmating at best using some technical info reported. I would wait for Anandtech, GSMarena reviews before making any claims on performance, battery life.

That's a good point although I'm not sure you read the edit. The basic power draw of the M9's panel would have to be over 150% of the S6's which definitely isn't the case.

Anyway, we'll see soon but until then, I'm still betting on the M9 lasting longer.

 

[droidguy1964]

Well, you don't need to use the device to realise that:

The HTC One M9 has a 2840mah battery. It powers 2073600 when the display is on. Let the CPU efficiency = 100%. Therefore, each 1mah of battery would have to power approximately 730 at a time. Comparatively, the S6 will need to power 3686400 pixels with a 2550mah battery. According to Samsung's claims, the efficiency should = ~130%. Due to it having an AMOLED display, let's say only ~3.4 million pixels are lit a time. Unlike the HTC, each milliampere-hour must power approximately 1025 pixels at a time. If my calculations are correct, each mah from the HTC's battery should last 40% longer than that of the S6. (BTW, based on those calculations, the larger battery on the S6 Edge will change it from 40% to ~37.7%). Not to mention it's inclusion of the much less battery friendly TouchWiz...

Of course, this is only based on the display and battery - two of the many components that make up a phone. Real world usage will be very different. I figured that since the display is usually the most power draining aspect of a phone, it would be most accurate to base it on that. Also, if the HTC One m8 - with it's smaller battery - can last a day, the One M9 will (unless, of course, there is an issue with the new processor or Sense 7 etc.) And, I also don't believe Samsung is yet to confirm that the US and other countries will be getting the supposedly more efficient Exynos processor. If not, and the battery remains the same, it'll be even worse.

You should probably edit or delete this post. It's just plain wrong.

 

[Photon4glover]

You should probably edit or delete this post. It's just plain wrong.

Don't worry I screenshoted it. I'll be back when results are out


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[droidguy1964]

Don't worry I screenshoted it. I'll be back when results are out


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I'm not worried about it. It's just wrong and its nice to be able to clean it up of possible.

 

[clevin]

Well, you don't need to use the device to realise that:

The HTC One M9 has a 2840mah battery. It powers 2073600 when the display is on. Let the CPU efficiency = 100%. Therefore, each 1mah of battery would have to power approximately 730 at a time. Comparatively, the S6 will need to power 3686400 pixels with a 2550mah battery. According to Samsung's claims, the efficiency should = ~130%. Due to it having an AMOLED display, let's say only ~3.4 million pixels are lit a time. Unlike the HTC, each milliampere-hour must power approximately 1025 pixels at a time. If my calculations are correct, each mah from the HTC's battery should last 40% longer than that of the S6. (BTW, based on those calculations, the larger battery on the S6 Edge will change it from 40% to ~37.7%). Not to mention it's inclusion of the much less battery friendly TouchWiz...

Of course, this is only based on the display and battery - two of the many components that make up a phone. Real world usage will be very different. I figured that since the display is usually the most power draining aspect of a phone, it would be most accurate to base it on that. Also, if the HTC One m8 - with it's smaller battery - can last a day, the One M9 will (unless, of course, there is an issue with the new processor or Sense 7 etc.) And, I also don't believe Samsung is yet to confirm that the US and other countries will be getting the supposedly more efficient Exynos processor. If not, and the battery remains the same, it'll be even worse.

few points to consider:

AMOLED uses no power displaying pure black.
AMOLED uses twice as much power display pure white
AMOLED is arranged in diamond matrix, reduces number of pixels, and also reduces sizes of each pixel.

Displaymate usually has actually power draw test for these things, no need to assume things, just read their measurements.

 

[p3ntyne]

I'm not worried about it. It's just wrong and its nice to be able to clean it up of possible.

I'm only talking about the display relative to the battery and the claimed efficiency of the processor. Since you know so much about the S6, I would appreciate an explanation as to why it's wrong? And photon4glover, save some space, delete that screenshot and stop being so ignorant. That post is not going anywhere.

I guess Samsung fanboys can't admit Samsung made any mistakes.

 

[jcp007]

All of the claims are theoretical until we have real world production units to test. Let's see if slimmed down TouchWiz and improved chipsets and display that are more efficient make the battery choice a good choice. HTC fans will always try to one up Samsung et vice versa. It is pointless just as bemoaning the fact there is no expandable storage and swappable battery, a choice that I can live with. Once the facts are out, there can only be ONE next best thing. I hope that it is the GS6 but I will just as happy for those who get the M9.

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[Adranalyne]

I'd be shocked if the S6 or S6 Edge didn't have better battery life than my Nexus 6. Smaller screen, newer and more efficient display, much more efficient CPU, DDR4 RAM, UFS storage, and this new Broadcomm chip are going to go a long way.

I personally haven't been this excited for a device in a long, long time. I watched Phone Arena's speed test with the iPhone 6 and even the UI is significantly faster than before. If someone creates a Google Now theme for Touchwiz and you can replace the stock icons, there's going to be a lot of people converting to this phone. Especially the Edge.

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