it's a Google phone damn it, not Microsoft. So I'm wondering, why is there Bing on Android phones on Verizon, like the new LG that was just released? Just curious, which is why I am asking.
Why the fudge is Verizon stripping Google out and replacing it with Bing?
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Because microsoft is paying verizon millions of dollars (plus a cut of ad revenue) to do so, and the deal required a certain number (though unspecified) of "High End" Devices.
I'm pretty sure the deal went through sometime before the "Droid" brand was born, because Verizon replaced Google with Bing on all their blackberries as well. (via a forced OTA update). I don't think they really predicted the backlash from it. Even normal customers are getting pissed because it breaks stuff that they see others doing (Voice search doesn't work like it should, you can't open Google maps with a voice prompt, etc) So hopefully they'll be smart and not renew the deal, or at least make sure high end android devices (ideally all android devices) won't have Bing forced as the default.
As for Microsoft, they're making millions off of Android because they twisted HTC into licensing their patents and they're going after other's as well. According to Barnes and Noble (The only company that refused to sign an NDA before they heard the charges against them) Microsoft is demanding more to license their patents for Android than they are requiring for WindowsPhone 7 licenses.
Honestly, I'm not sure how Google allowed the Bing thing to happen. Sure, Android is Open, but the market is not. And if this skyhook thing has shown us anything, it's that Google is pretty involved in the device approval process. The question we should be asking is why do Bing devices have market access?
I'm pretty sure the deal went through sometime before the "Droid" brand was born, because Verizon replaced Google with Bing on all their blackberries as well. (via a forced OTA update). I don't think they really predicted the backlash from it. Even normal customers are getting pissed because it breaks stuff that they see others doing (Voice search doesn't work like it should, you can't open Google maps with a voice prompt, etc) So hopefully they'll be smart and not renew the deal, or at least make sure high end android devices (ideally all android devices) won't have Bing forced as the default.
As for Microsoft, they're making millions off of Android because they twisted HTC into licensing their patents and they're going after other's as well. According to Barnes and Noble (The only company that refused to sign an NDA before they heard the charges against them) Microsoft is demanding more to license their patents for Android than they are requiring for WindowsPhone 7 licenses.
Honestly, I'm not sure how Google allowed the Bing thing to happen. Sure, Android is Open, but the market is not. And if this skyhook thing has shown us anything, it's that Google is pretty involved in the device approval process. The question we should be asking is why do Bing devices have market access?
yea i have been trying to keep friends who dont want to root away from these phones because most dont even know what their our missing, good to see big red is doing whatever it takes for the almighty $
Only certain phones are Binged. I seriously doubt Google would allow all of them to be binged. And from what I've noticed it's mostly LG phones up until now. A With Google device can't be binged as fare as I know. Hence the Binged devices lacking the With Google logo.
Ugh, I saw the new LG phone get released,but then I read it got Bing and I said wtf? Verizon really couldn't have ben THAT clueless knowing that customers would be pissed about beng forced to use Bing on Google device. I mean, that's like me going to McDonald's to buy a burger only to be focrced a salad. That's mainly one of he reasons why I do not want an Android device on Verizon simply because of that. I have nothing against Bing, but no wa in hell would I want it on a Google device.
I don't really understand the HTC and Mircrosoft thing. How in the hell did that happen? Are they seriously that desperate to chunk out som of Android's revenue that they turn to doing that?
I don't really understand the HTC and Mircrosoft thing. How in the hell did that happen? Are they seriously that desperate to chunk out som of Android's revenue that they turn to doing that?
Im not that big of a fan for bing on the computer, but it seems to work better on a mobile version in imo. But still, i kind of side with the miz on this one.
Don't get me wrong, it's a good search engine. But it seems like a dumb idea to slap it on an Android device rather than just making it optinal. And that's not the only thing considering it messes up several other important Google features on the phone, which kills the overall Google experience.
This is a really dumb idea imo. I'm not even a Verizon customer, yet it rages me considering I was eying several Verizon Android phones.
I am not saying it's not a good search engine, but I don't want it forced onto an Android phone, which ruins the Android experience which btw, we aren't just referring to search engines here.
Let me ask this - Are you saying that because you like Bing or because I disagree that Bing shouldn't be forced onto customers with Android phones or who don't want it forced upon them?
Oh jeezus. Get over yourself. I didn't quote you so I obviously wasn't referring to you. I like Bing much better than Google. I've said it other times on many other sites. My world doesn't revolve around you.
Verizon has had a contract to have Bing on their devices for quite a few years. I am not happy with it either. I do prefer Google and I don't have Bing on my laptop either.
Yeah, the Droid didn't get Bingified. A few others got hit though.
Figures it's always about money. I heard about the contract, wonder if Verizon will be dumb enough to renew it considering the customer backlash.
I don't go to other sites you go to. I only asked since I had made the topic and we seem to disagree quite often. And I didn't say your world revolved around me or anything, goodness know. Look, I am not trying to say Bing is a bad search engine. You're missing the point here - this goes far beyond a search engine. It's about stripping out the Android stuff and the Google features and adding Bing to it. That ruins the Android experience. Bing is a good search engine, but it pales in comparison to Google's features like Maps and voice search which are ruined thanks to the Bing presence. Plus Google maps tend to be way more accurate, hell it has been a very useful aid when it comes to finding locations while traveling. Can't really do much with Bing. It's like taking out the engine of a Mustang and adding in the engine of a volkswagon beetle. it just doesn't work and quite frankly, it's not fair to the customers.
If it was a choice in the matter, I'd agree. But forcing customers to Bing is just ridiculous imo. It's a bad business decision. Believe it or not, your customers are your foundation for a good business. If you tick them off, they'll be vocal about it. A person is quick to talk about a bad experience than they would for a good experience and there's only so much they'll take before they start seeking alternatives. My point is - Verizon and their subscribers should be a mutual thing, not Verizon being like "oh, we have a contract with Microsoft, so you'll be using Bing. Either like it or leave."
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I really would love to be able to use Google as default.... I agree. I am not a big fan of Bing but that is just a matter of opinion
I'm on your side here, Miz. Keep in mind Bing isn't ruining her Android experience. You are trying to make a point to someone who could care less, because she is using a fruit phone...
I also have an incredible 2 and droid charge. So know what you're talking about before you speak. Thanks.
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Damn shame, when you think about it.... I'm waiting for the Bionic, but at the same time, really starting to get frustrated with waiting for its release. In fact, I stopped into my local Verizon Wireless store over the weekend and got a closer look at the new LG Revolution. I was very impressed with the phone overall - nice screen, great look & feel, and the performance was the best out of all 3 LTE phones. Almost pulled the trigger - that is, until I saw Bing in the apps list! Back to waiting for me!!
So which one do you actively use Google maps and employ voice commands with? Probably not the Charge because it's busted. Thanks for playing...
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I don't use voice commands on any phone. And I don't use google maps on any phone. Next....
Well that explains why Bing doesn't infringe on your experience. If you did, you would see what everyone is mad about... I respect your opinion about being a good search engine, and it is. But it breaks features I use every day. That's one of many reasons I don't own a Fascinate or Revolution right now.
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Not to stir the shizzle here, but do YOU know what you're talking about? The DROID Incredible 2 and the DROID Charge are both as Bing-free as your iPhail. I'm confused as to how exactly this fact would make you an authority on the implementation of Bing on Android devices.
Anyway, to echo what some have already said here, I don't have anything against Bing per se, but it does render features inoperable that otherwise come in handy if Google were the search engine. YMMV,
Bryan
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