[fatboy97]

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[paintdrinkingpete]

bumped for edits done on OP.

[Wicked123]

great guide, i do not see why this is not pinned.

[fatboy97]

great guide, i do not see why this is not pinned.

Totally agree... this should be required reading for anyone considering rooting their phone... AND Android Central even tweeted about this thread!!!

But I guess we have to keep bumping this thread up every day or so to keep it on the first page.

[sscinokc]

Great post. I have an additional question though.

I just had to "unroot" to exchange my phone under warranty for Front Facing Camera issues. (long story...but simply put, the FFC doesn't work)

With the new "refurbished" phone, which will have the latest software on it, will it be possible to use the autoroot method? Or do I need to use the manual method...which I have never attempted. I will say...after only 12 hours...I really miss my rooted phone!

[Jux]

Great post. I have an additional question though.

I just had to "unroot" to exchange my phone under warranty for Front Facing Camera issues. (long story...but simply put, the FFC doesn't work)

With the new "refurbished" phone, which will have the latest software on it, will it be possible to use the autoroot method? Or do I need to use the manual method...which I have never attempted. I will say...after only 12 hours...I really miss my rooted phone!

The autoroot should work, you'll just have to reflash the MR2 radio.

[paintdrinkingpete]

Great post. I have an additional question though.

I just had to "unroot" to exchange my phone under warranty for Front Facing Camera issues. (long story...but simply put, the FFC doesn't work)

With the new "refurbished" phone, which will have the latest software on it, will it be possible to use the autoroot method? Or do I need to use the manual method...which I have never attempted. I will say...after only 12 hours...I really miss my rooted phone!

It will work...but be glad you did this now, since you won't be able to once phones start shipping with Gingerbread.

[recDNA]

I like all of my phone functions including camera, ffc, bt, etc. Of all the roms will any of them allow all these features to work as well as stock?

If additional steps are needed to activate these functions with a particular rom please explain.

[fatboy97]

I like all of my phone functions including camera, ffc, bt, etc. Of all the roms will any of them allow all these features to work as well as stock?

If additional steps are needed to activate these functions with a particular rom please explain.

Your question really has nothing to do with this thread... all ROM have their own unique things they do best... the larger choice on ROMs is Sense (similar look and feel from Stock) and AOSP (Android Open Source Project) more of a straight Android look and feel. They all have basic phone functions you listed which are what the phone has built in.

Two main sources: [ROM/KERNEL/RADIO List] Official RootzWiKi HTC Thunderbolt ROM's List - [07/26/2011] and The Official Thunderbolt ROMs & Kernels Listing v2.5 (Updated 7/26 9:00 PM CST) - xda-developers

[recDNA]

You don't think function of things like the camera or gps or audio recorder known not to work in some roms have to do with whether we should root? I disagree. One poster mentioned that all roms have flaws. How in the world can a person make a rational decision about whether to root if we know what we may gain but NOT what we may lose?

[Jux]

You don't think function of things like the camera know not to work in some roms have to do with whether we should root? I disagree. One poster mentioned that all roms have flaws. How in the world can a person make a rational decision about whether to root if we know what we may gain but NOT what we may lose?

The best approach is to read the individual ROM threads, both here and the release threads that they link back to. They will list any known issues (if any) or any problems that individual users are having. Typically, most issues that are in a ROM are not major and there are workarounds posted in the threads.

[recDNA]

Its a lot of reading. I had hoped to simplify the decision before studying each rom individually.

[fatboy97]

Its a lot of reading. I had hoped to simplify the decision before studying each rom individually.

If you want just the basics ANY ROM should do that... if you like Sense ROMs there are some very good threads right here on AC in this forum that talk about those... and there are also a lot of good threads on ASOP ROMs. We can not make the choice for you. Some of the top ROMs IMHO are Das BAMF (of which there are a few different variations like Sense 2.1 and Sense 3.0 version), CM7 (ASOP), Liquid Thunderbread (ASOP), and Gingeritis (Sense 2.1) just to name a few.

[paintdrinkingpete]

You don't think function of things like the camera or gps or audio recorder known not to work in some roms have to do with whether we should root? I disagree. One poster mentioned that all roms have flaws. How in the world can a person make a rational decision about whether to root if we know what we may gain but NOT what we may lose?

I'd put the relevance of the ROM question in relation to the OP in a gray area, but since you ask, here's the deal...

At this moment, there has been no "official" Gingerbread offerings for the Thunderbolt. There was a leak several weeks ago (that definitely was not ready for prime time), and a few builds that have been ported over, but no real base image to work off of, and as of yet, no source for the kernel (which is important). This is why, in my opinion, the Gingerbread ROMs are really not as stable as the Froyo ones.

A lot of folks will comment that certain GB Roms are great, and while I'm not saying that they're wrong, I have yet to find one that doesn't have bugs.

If you really want a stable, bug free ROM, then I suggest going Froyo. I'm running BAMF Remix 1.8.6 as my everyday ROM, and it's really nice. Everything works, no problems whatsover, plus a lot of great features and customizations you can't get with the stock OS.

In other words, if you want "stable", go Froyo...if you want to play around with some of the latest Android and HTC Sense features and don't mind having to deal with or fix a few bugs along the way, then by all means, give GB a run. The great thing is, once you're rooted, you can always go back if you install something you don't like.

[recDNA]

Once rooted I know we cannot accept ota updates however I have read they are sometimes pushed and run automatically. Can this happen if you are rooted? Obviously I don't want it to.

Not that it matters in this context but I'd rather get rid of sense if it doesn't mess up anything else.

And thanks...your post had the info I needed.

[paintdrinkingpete]

Once rooted I know we cannot accept ota updates however I have read they are sometimes pushed and run automatically. Can this happen if you are rooted? Obviously I don't want it to.

Not that it matters in this context but I'd rather get rid of sense if it doesn't mess up anything else.

And thanks...your post had the info I needed.

If you're running stock OS, then yes, there is a good chance that any official updates could get pushed to your phone.

There were quite a few posts on this forum right after the last OTA came out from people who had either

A) intentionally installed the OTA and were upset that they lost root or screwed their phone up or
B) were rooted but running stock OS and had Verizon push the update to them without doing anything and having to re-root

Those post were actually my inspiration to write this one.

It will be especially important to make sure that no future VZW updates are installed (Gingerbread), as the current root methods will no longer work on phones that install it.

[recDNA]

So this could happen to me if running bamf 1.8.6?

Scary scenario is ota loads and runs while I sleep, bricks phone, no way to fix because rooting blocked by update.

[paintdrinkingpete]

No, it should not. It could happen if you are running STOCK OS, as in the official OS that comes with the phone.

BAMF 1.8.6 is not stock.

[recDNA]

But how can you be rooted and still running stock os? Sorry if my newbie questions are dumb.

[zero neck]

But how can you be rooted and still running stock os? Sorry if my newbie questions are dumb.

When you finish the rooting process you are currently left with root-enabled MR1 stock rom, radio, and kernel. You don't have to change anything after that, if you don't want to, but there are some issues that could come up if you don't - such as forced root-disabled OTA update to MR2 from verizion, which could damage your phone or at least cause unnecessary trouble for ya.


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[fatboy97]

Bump time... 4 days since the last.

[Steve54]

This is a most excellent "must read" read. Nicely done.

Blessings...Steve

[ssethv]

B U M P

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[paintdrinkingpete]

Just a self-serving BUMP...

Also, updated question #4 to include link to Revolutionary root method.

[hobbled]

Great info...thanks bump