06-24-2011 01:10 PM
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  1. saillling4life's Avatar
    I know this has been a very talked about topic, but I really can't decide exactly which I want. Plus it seems as if the Thunderbolt always goes on sale at Wirefly, so I don't know if I should buy the Charge, which I want more, or save a extra couple bucks and get the Thunderbolt.
    05-31-2011 05:52 PM
  2. Ken7's Avatar
    I played with the TB, but wound up with the Charge. The screen is better, the battery life is better, it's just as fast as the TB, so I found it to be a better overall device. But be forewarned, there is an issue with these 4G phones getting data when they drop down to 3G. Not everyone experiences them, but many do.

    I've seen it occur on every 4G device that Verizon carries. I even demonstrated it to a Verizon sales person so that he could make note of it and get it logged. The more of these complaints that Verizon hears, the faster we'll get a fix.
    05-31-2011 06:20 PM
  3. Halcyon's Avatar
    Always go for what you want. Get the charge. You will be happier. Trust me... I've had both and sold the bolt. The charge is a better device.
    05-31-2011 06:22 PM
  4. DroidXcon's Avatar
    Ive owned both and i am super happy with my Charge over the TB , its lighter, easier to work with as far as rooting. Screen is leaps and bounds bettery.

    People talk about lag but after you rom this thing its a beast (Hence Altered Beast lol)
    Here is a video of it in action you will see there is no lag.
    05-31-2011 06:25 PM
  5. radgatt's Avatar
    this thread should be in a neutral section of the forums to get a more accurate poll of users. having this thread in a Charge category isn't as accurate of what everyone feels...just saying...
    05-31-2011 06:33 PM
  6. Farabomb's Avatar
    I have the Charge and the woman has the TB. After a week the TB is going back for another charge.
    05-31-2011 06:52 PM
  7. dubge's Avatar
    I liked the TB but it just had to many bugs that effected me. Some I could live with some I couldn't. I will say I do think the TB has a better antenna, it seems to have no problem with 4G in my house where the charge struggles a little to hold 4G. I was going to bring it back for that reason but the reality is I dont really NEED 4G in my house because I can just use wifi.

    One thing I hated was the sound issue with the video recorder on the TB, I dont use it much but I would hate to NOT have sound when I did record something. Though the first day with the charge I went to take a picture of my daughter in a parade with the brownies and the camera was stuck on and had a lock on the screen and it would not let me take a picture or even back out of that mode, my only option was to reboot the phone.

    Being a camera guy I look at that, the TB has a nice editing program that makes it easy to adjust the photos after you take them. The quality of both seem equal but defiantly better then any motorola I have ever owned

    The screen is better on the charge and the battery is no contest on the charge.

    The TB UI is better and smoother then the charge but I have no problem using a launcher as that is what I did on all my motorola phones.

    The battery life would not have bothered me on the TB if it was consistent but it was not, I could get 20 hours using the phone a lot with the extended battery and the next day not use the phone at all and get 6-8

    but the straw that broke the camels back was when I realized the phone deleted a few of my contacts

    I know samsung is bad with updating their phones but I am sure I will buy a new one before I have to worry about that
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    05-31-2011 07:36 PM
  8. trifecta's Avatar

    but the straw that broke the camels back was when I realized the phone deleted a few of my contacts

    I know samsung is bad with updating their phones but I am sure I will buy a new one before I have to worry about that
    I lost some contacts when I went to the Charge. I have no idea how, how many, or why. They should have updated fine from my Gmail or Backup Assistant.
    05-31-2011 08:17 PM
  9. kjguy43's Avatar
    Charge is annoying me, cant get it to root. Didnt have this problem with the droid X
    05-31-2011 08:21 PM
  10. dubge's Avatar
    I lost some contacts when I went to the Charge. I have no idea how, how many, or why. They should have updated fine from my Gmail or Backup Assistant.
    I lost them before switching, a buddy sent me a text only to find he was no longer in my contact list in my phone
    05-31-2011 08:27 PM
  11. dslayton's Avatar
    I liked the TB but it just had to many bugs that effected me. Some I could live with some I couldn't. I will say I do think the TB has a better antenna, it seems to have no problem with 4G in my house where the charge struggles a little to hold 4G. I was going to bring it back for that reason but the reality is I dont really NEED 4G in my house because I can just use wifi.

    One thing I hated was the sound issue with the video recorder on the TB, I dont use it much but I would hate to NOT have sound when I did record something. Though the first day with the charge I went to take a picture of my daughter in a parade with the brownies and the camera was stuck on and had a lock on the screen and it would not let me take a picture or even back out of that mode, my only option was to reboot the phone.

    Being a camera guy I look at that, the TB has a nice editing program that makes it easy to adjust the photos after you take them. The quality of both seem equal but defiantly better then any motorola I have ever owned

    The screen is better on the charge and the battery is no contest on the charge.

    The TB UI is better and smoother then the charge but I have no problem using a launcher as that is what I did on all my motorola phones.

    The battery life would not have bothered me on the TB if it was consistent but it was not, I could get 20 hours using the phone a lot with the extended battery and the next day not use the phone at all and get 6-8

    but the straw that broke the camels back was when I realized the phone deleted a few of my contacts

    I know samsung is bad with updating their phones but I am sure I will buy a new one before I have to worry about that
    If you press the lock screen button while you are in camera mode, the screen will lock and won't let you do anything. This seems like a feature but I don't see the need.

    Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk
    05-31-2011 09:33 PM
  12. saillling4life's Avatar
    Ive owned both and i am super happy with my Charge over the TB , its lighter, easier to work with as far as rooting. Screen is leaps and bounds bettery.

    People talk about lag but after you rom this thing its a beast (Hence Altered Beast lol)
    Here is a video of it in action you will see there is no lag.
    Once you complete this ROM, will you make a video of how to root it or screen shots? Because I've never rooted a phone and don't want to mess up. Thanks.
    05-31-2011 10:09 PM
  13. DroidXcon's Avatar
    Once you complete this ROM, will you make a video of how to root it or screen shots? Because I've never rooted a phone and don't want to mess up. Thanks.
    The rom is already rooted just need to flash it with odin and youre done

    Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk
    05-31-2011 10:17 PM
  14. saillling4life's Avatar
    The rom is already rooted just need to flash it with odin and youre done

    Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk
    Thanks a ton. I'm still trying to decide if once I get my phone if I will root.
    05-31-2011 10:21 PM
  15. delco714's Avatar
    What does rooting do for me on this phone? Just inquisitive, as this is an honest question..
    06-01-2011 01:05 AM
  16. fasdf's Avatar
    What does rooting do for me on this phone? Just inquisitive, as this is an honest question..
    For one thing, it allows you to remove/uninstall the bloatware/trial apps that Verizon has preinstalled on the phone (i.e. Blockbuster, Lets Golf, Rockband, etc...) either manually or using apps that have been written to do so. You'd also be able to backup your app data and restore from these backups in the case that you need to switch phones and such.

    And if you want to take it a step further, you can install/backup entire roms that have been optimized or customized to fit the look and feel you like.

    Basically, it gives you full access to the phone, which allows you to customize it to your liking. Obviously, it does also allow you to really mess up your phone, but I think as long as you read and follow instructions, you'll be ok.
    06-01-2011 01:35 AM
  17. AndroidXTC's Avatar
    I know this has been a very talked about topic, but I really can't decide exactly which I want. Plus it seems as if the Thunderbolt always goes on sale at Wirefly, so I don't know if I should buy the Charge, which I want more, or save a extra couple bucks and get the Thunderbolt.
    I own both, The Charge is better IMO.
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    06-01-2011 01:41 AM
  18. saillling4life's Avatar
    I own both, The Charge is better IMO.
    Thanks. I think I will be getting a Charge, but the Thunderbolt can be soooo cheap.
    06-01-2011 07:43 AM
  19. Ken7's Avatar
    For one thing, it allows you to remove/uninstall the bloatware/trial apps that Verizon has preinstalled on the phone (i.e. Blockbuster, Lets Golf, Rockband, etc...) either manually or using apps that have been written to do so. You'd also be able to backup your app data and restore from these backups in the case that you need to switch phones and such.

    And if you want to take it a step further, you can install/backup entire roms that have been optimized or customized to fit the look and feel you like.

    Basically, it gives you full access to the phone, which allows you to customize it to your liking. Obviously, it does also allow you to really mess up your phone, but I think as long as you read and follow instructions, you'll be ok.
    Is there a downside to rooting the phone beyond the possibility of the user screwing up? Will Verizon still service the phone if there's an issue and does it effect the warranty?
    06-01-2011 08:33 AM
  20. Farabomb's Avatar
    Rooting voids warranty. Some apps (blockbuster and google media iirc) will detect root and refuse to work. I feel I should be able to choose what is on my phone and what I can remove but without rooting do don't get that option. Launcher Pro can hide them.
    06-01-2011 09:13 AM
  21. Ken7's Avatar
    Thanks Farabomb. What exactly is 'google media iirc'? Also curious if you're having the 3G data connectivity issue?
    06-01-2011 11:02 AM
  22. Farabomb's Avatar
    Probably should have typed google media, iirc (if I recall correctly) and I was slightly wrong. It's Marketplace's rental service


    Sorry, home sick and forgot about the other question. Where I live and work is all 3g but my mom lives in lte country and I haven't seen any issues.
    06-01-2011 11:20 AM
  23. delco714's Avatar
    ok so I am getting my charge tomorrow and you convinced me to root it. I bought a preowned og droid that was rooted ( i didnt know until I got it) and I learned how to deroot then update android.. HOWEVER

    Is there a comprehensive manual/walkthrough to root THIS phone and flash it and put that beast thing on it? What makes the beast thing so special anyways? I watch that posted video, and very impressive!
    06-01-2011 05:48 PM
  24. saillling4life's Avatar
    I was just on Amazon and saw the Charge for $199 with an upgrade. This is great news I hope some people can use this to get their phones at a cheap price.
    06-02-2011 08:37 PM
  25. prodigy's Avatar
    I was just on Amazon and saw the Charge for $199 with an upgrade. This is great news I hope some people can use this to get their phones at a cheap price.
    That's awesome. Could I buy it off Amazon, and then have it activated and stuff at Verizon for no charge? And how would things work if something went wrong with the phone? Do I talk to Amazon or Verizon?
    06-02-2011 09:14 PM
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