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  1. d3xn2o's Avatar
    Yea this is BS
    I can't wait to throw this thing in a fire once the Nexus is released
    Im def switching
    09-30-2013 12:35 PM
  2. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    HTC never promised that the update would be released by carriers and hit the device by September. Just that they would have it ready by the end of September. They are holding by their end of the bargain just fine. Anyone who really hoped Verizon would have had the update out by the end of September was just getting their hopes up.
    09-30-2013 12:39 PM
  3. masc69's Avatar
    HTC never promised that the update would be released by carriers and hit the device by September. Just that they would have it ready by the end of September. They are holding by their end of the bargain just fine. Anyone who really hoped Verizon would have had the update out by the end of September was just getting their hopes up.
    HTC actually changed the date and announced it would be released by the end of the year. Verizon had nothing to do with it. HTC needs to step up. I have to agree that Verizon will drag their feet to release it.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using AC Forums mobile app
    09-30-2013 01:31 PM
  4. stkorn97's Avatar
    My phone continues to work awesome regardless of the date on the calendar.
    09-30-2013 01:49 PM
  5. trigun123478's Avatar
    My phone continues to work awesome regardless of the date on the calendar.
    Yes, I understand that your phone runs awesome without the update and a incredibly old version of Android and sense. The point is, this is the problem with android in general. The Android updates add features. I am also switching to the nexus 5.

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-30-2013 02:42 PM
  6. stkorn97's Avatar
    Yes, I understand that your phone runs awesome without the update and a incredibly old version of Android and sense. The point is, this is the problem with android in general. The Android updates add features. I am also switching to the nexus 5.

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    Wasnt aware 4.1 was incredibly old. Considering 4.2 and 4.3 have been minor upgrades overall, its not a make or break issue between them. I have 4.3 on my 2 Nexus devices and its not night and day between 4.1 and 4.3
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    09-30-2013 03:08 PM
  7. mightyfacundo's Avatar
    I understand everyone's frustration with HTC/Verizon/Android over the lack of updates and certainly don't blame anyone for wanting the next Nexus. After all, it should be a great phone, and there's always a chance I pick one up IF it comes to Verizon.

    However, it could be worse. I came from the Thunderbolt, which was a great phone for me, but a POS for plenty of others. The message boards here at AC were inundated with numerous complaint threads, including everyone waiting for the Gingerbread OTA and then the ICS OTA. In comparison, the DNA forums have very few complaints. Sure, slow updates suck, but at least we're waiting for an OTA to enhance the phone, not fix it like with the Bolt. Plus, for me anyway, as soon as we get the update, I'll mess around with it for a couple of days and then I'll go right back to using TSF Shell Launcher, which renders the update kind of pointless. I don't expect anyone else to feel this way, but I just felt like sharing my perspective.
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    09-30-2013 03:31 PM
  8. DarkBeer's Avatar
    I just don't understand why people buy phones with an expectation of future updates. If you aren't happy with the features/peformance of the device when you buy it, just return it or don't buy it in the first place. Any updates you receive from the vendor/carrier should be considered bonuses, but not something you should expect. This phone is now easily rootable, so there is that option as well for those that have to have the latest version of Android OS.
    I was happy with this phone the day I purchased it, and continue to be very happy with it. I have rooted it and tested other ROMs with some nice features, but I'm now running a rooted stock ROM and am pleased with it.
    09-30-2013 07:39 PM
  9. masc69's Avatar
    I just don't understand why people buy phones with an expectation of future updates. If you aren't happy with the features/peformance of the device when you buy it, just return it or don't buy it in the first place. Any updates you receive from the vendor/carrier should be considered bonuses, but not something you should expect. This phone is now easily rootable, so there is that option as well for those that have to have the latest version of Android OS.
    I was happy with this phone the day I purchased it, and continue to be very happy with it. I have rooted it and tested other ROMs with some nice features, but I'm now running a rooted stock ROM and am pleased with it.
    Someone always talks about rooting when people complain about updates. Not everyone wants to root and void warranty. You said not to expect updates when you buy a phone, so then why are you rooting yours and updating to the latest and greatest? You contradict yourself by saying we should all be okay with the features we got at purchase yet you go and root your phone because you want more. Every cell phone manufacturer updates phones so its not like we are asking for something out of the ordinary.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using AC Forums mobile app
    09-30-2013 10:51 PM
  10. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    HTC actually changed the date and announced it would be released by the end of the year. Verizon had nothing to do with it. HTC needs to step up. I have to agree that Verizon will drag their feet to release it.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using AC Forums mobile app
    I wasn't talking about them changing the 4.3 to 4.2.2. I was talking about the 4.3 update, which HAS been delayed by Verizon, and basically all the carriers. I posted that prior to finding out they changed the date. I would be willing to bet that Verizon already has the 4.2.2 update, though. They are just holding on to it. Of course, my opinion only.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using AC Forums mobile app
    09-30-2013 10:57 PM
  11. Central n ohios best's Avatar
    Someone always talks about rooting when people complain about updates. Not everyone wants to root and void warranty. You said not to expect updates when you buy a phone, so then why are you rooting yours and updating to the latest and greatest? You contradict yourself by saying we should all be okay with the features we got at purchase yet you go and root your phone because you want more. Every cell phone manufacturer updates phones so its not like we are asking for something out of the ordinary.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using AC Forums mobile app
    The carriers only say that to cover their rear ends. Sprint and T-Mobile has worked on and fixed all my rooted phones. We even discussed different root methods and kernels. And like the other poster said updates are considered bonuses. I'm running 4.1.2 with no update envy or anything. That's the beauty of Android if u can customize anything even the os.

    Sent from my T-Mobile LG Escape using Tapatalk 2
    09-30-2013 11:20 PM
  12. trigun123478's Avatar
    Wasnt aware 4.1 was incredibly old. Considering 4.2 and 4.3 have been minor upgrades overall, its not a make or break issue between them. I have 4.3 on my 2 Nexus devices and its not night and day between 4.1 and 4.3
    4.2.2 Is almost a year old, and 4.3 came out in August to nexus devices, while 4.4 is about to come out. 4.2.2 added quick toggles and lock screen widgets. We are about to get a updated to a version of Android that is already out of date. How is that not frustrating to you? This phone is more than powerful enough to get all the updates, but Verizon will hold it back to force people to buy a new phone.

    Posted via Android Central App
    10-01-2013 12:28 AM
  13. Rizz1-2's Avatar
    I would like an update to the latest and greatest. However, i definitely don't need it. I buy my phone for what it does when I get it, not what it can possibly do in the future (although being able to properly run new software is something I keep in mind). Would I like lock screen widgets and power toggles? Hells yes. Is it enough for me to fret over? Nope. If you want a phone that gets the latest software the soonest, I don't know why you would get anything besides a Nexus. Otherwise, enjoy your still fast as hell DNA and be patient.
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    10-01-2013 07:04 AM
  14. Rizz1-2's Avatar
    Yea this is BS
    I can't wait to throw this thing in a fire once the Nexus is released
    Im def switching
    Is your phone broken?
    10-01-2013 07:06 AM
  15. masc69's Avatar
    I don't understand why people are saying updates are "bonuses"? If updating phones is a "bonus", then why does every single manufacturer do it? Once everyone does it, it is not considered a bonus, it becomes standard.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using AC Forums mobile app
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    10-01-2013 11:31 AM
  16. DarkBeer's Avatar
    I don't understand why people are saying updates are "bonuses"? If updating phones is a "bonus", then why does every single manufacturer do it? Once everyone does it, it is not considered a bonus, it becomes standard.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using AC Forums mobile app
    Can you show me where you were guaranteed updates to the phone? Unless there was a promise to deliver additional features/fixes in the future, you paid for what you received. If there isn't a guarantee of updates, then any update is a bonus in my opinion. While many manufacturers release updates to their products, I fail to see where this concept of being owed an update comes from. <sarcasm>Do you buy cars and expect the manufacturer to replace the engine in your vehicle a year later because they have a better engine available? </sarcasm>
    10-01-2013 11:54 AM
  17. Central n ohios best's Avatar
    Can you show me where you were guaranteed updates to the phone? Unless there was a promise to deliver additional features/fixes in the future, you paid for what you received. If there isn't a guarantee of updates, then any update is a bonus in my opinion. While many manufacturers release updates to their products, I fail to see where this concept of being owed an update comes from. <sarcasm>Do you buy cars and expect the manufacturer to replace the engine in your vehicle a year later because they have a better engine available? </sarcasm>
    I was about to say the same thing bro.

    Sent from my T-Mobile LG Escape using Tapatalk 2
    10-01-2013 12:50 PM
  18. Central n ohios best's Avatar
    4.2.2 Is almost a year old, and 4.3 came out in August to nexus devices, while 4.4 is about to come out. 4.2.2 added quick toggles and lock screen widgets. We are about to get a updated to a version of Android that is already out of date. How is that not frustrating to you? This phone is more than powerful enough to get all the updates, but Verizon will hold it back to force people to buy a new phone.

    Posted via Android Central App
    Well root your phone and update automatically then. Screw the carrier.

    Sent from my T-Mobile LG Escape using Tapatalk 2
    10-01-2013 12:53 PM
  19. luke31's Avatar
    I don't understand why people are saying updates are "bonuses"? If updating phones is a "bonus", then why does every single manufacturer do it? Once everyone does it, it is not considered a bonus, it becomes standard.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using AC Forums mobile app
    Wrong. You go on the Samsung device forums, you have people complaining about the whereabouts of their update. Try the LG forums as well. And the Sony forums. You get the point. I have never had a non-Nexus device where nobody ever complained about either VZW or the device manufacturer failing to update the phone in a timely manner. You pay for the phone you get. You are not entitled to more or to less, unless that phone isn't working as advertised.

    Want timely updates? Get a non-CDMA Nexus, or get an iPhone. I hardly call that standard.
    10-01-2013 02:00 PM
  20. stkorn97's Avatar
    I would like an update to the latest and greatest. However, i definitely don't need it. I buy my phone for what it does when I get it, not what it can possibly do in the future (although being able to properly run new software is something I keep in mind). Would I like lock screen widgets and power toggles? Hells yes. Is it enough for me to fret over? Nope. If you want a phone that gets the latest software the soonest, I don't know why you would get anything besides a Nexus. Otherwise, enjoy your still fast as hell DNA and be patient.
    Exactly my point. For me personally, I dont lose sleep over not having 4.3 on my already amazing phone. At best I would like 4.2 with the quick settings, but as you said, its not something that bothers me as I have all my toggles in my notification bar already using an app.
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    10-01-2013 04:39 PM
  21. mightyfacundo's Avatar
    If anyone wants a good app that puts power toggles in your notification menu, I use Notification Deluxe, and it works great.

    Edit: Stkorn, I just saw that you posted that you also use an app. Great minds and all that!
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    10-01-2013 04:44 PM
  22. masc69's Avatar
    Wrong. You go on the Samsung device forums, you have people complaining about the whereabouts of their update. Try the LG forums as well. And the Sony forums. You get the point. I have never had a non-Nexus device where nobody ever complained about either VZW or the device manufacturer failing to update the phone in a timely manner. You pay for the phone you get. You are not entitled to more or to less, unless that phone isn't working as advertised.

    Want timely updates? Get a non-CDMA Nexus, or get an iPhone. I hardly call that standard.
    Well the Nexus phone gets updates, so the phone you buy is not the phone you have at the end of its cycle. There are update exceptions because of phone hardware, but my point was that updates are NOT rare and are not bonuses.

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    10-01-2013 09:44 PM
  23. masc69's Avatar
    Can you show me where you were guaranteed updates to the phone? Unless there was a promise to deliver additional features/fixes in the future, you paid for what you received. If there isn't a guarantee of updates, then any update is a bonus in my opinion. While many manufacturers release updates to their products, I fail to see where this concept of being owed an update comes from. <sarcasm>Do you buy cars and expect the manufacturer to replace the engine in your vehicle a year later because they have a better engine available? </sarcasm>
    I never said that my phone deserved an update. HTC said the phone was going to be updated, so now I want my update. If you sell a product and could make it better by updating it, why wouldn't you? Updating also helps to sell the product for a longer period of time, without the product becoming obsolete. See: Apple.


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    10-01-2013 09:48 PM
  24. luke31's Avatar
    Well the Nexus phone gets updates, so the phone you buy is not the phone you have at the end of its cycle. There are update exceptions because of phone hardware, but my point was that updates are NOT rare and are not bonuses.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using AC Forums mobile app
    Even then, I remember having the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and updates were hard to come by with that thing. It seems to me like the only phone on VZW capable of receiving timely updates is the iPhone. My ultimate dream is for Google to make a Nexus device that works across all carriers (VZW as well) with one device, rather than having to sell different versions of the same phone.

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    10-01-2013 09:50 PM
  25. RyanMXA's Avatar
    I just don't understand why people buy phones with an expectation of future updates. If you aren't happy with the features/peformance of the device when you buy it, just return it or don't buy it in the first place. Any updates you receive from the vendor/carrier should be considered bonuses, but not something you should expect. This phone is now easily rootable, so there is that option as well for those that have to have the latest version of Android OS.
    I was happy with this phone the day I purchased it, and continue to be very happy with it. I have rooted it and tested other ROMs with some nice features, but I'm now running a rooted stock ROM and am pleased with it.
    This.
    The DNA works great as is. Some updates will be nice but definitely not enough to say throw the phone in a fire.

    Just think of all the iPhone 5 users that wish they never got an iOS 7 update.



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    10-01-2013 09:56 PM
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