05-19-2010 02:00 PM
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  1. kmully's Avatar
    Just ran through the unplug/plug/unplug thing this morning at my desk. Sitting at 100% at 9:30AM CST. Will update this later on in the day.

    I will say that even 3 minutes later it is still sitting at 100%, while normally I would be down to 97-98% by now.

    I did use Advanced Task Killer to kill several background apps, for what it is worth.

    Update: 10:36AM and still at 100%. This has literally never happened (1 hour and no loss of % on the display).
    05-11-2010 09:34 AM
  2. Adiliyo's Avatar
    I'm not sure why you say that, it's fairly common knowledge that you should turn your phone off while charging. It's only in us in our seeming need to stay always connected that we have forgotten this. Even in the Incredible owners manual on page 6 it says that "It is important to fully charge the battery before powering on your wireless device." Eve though these phones shipped with batteries 3/4 of the way full. And I have seen other phone manuals that it is recommended to charge the battery with the phone powered off.

    There is nothing wrong with the phones, we have just never used phones that used this much juice before. Incredible is more like a netbook than a cel phone.
    i have yet to turn anything off during it's normal charging period, the incredible is the only device i have owned that has any issue with charging while it's still on.

    that includes various cell phones as well as netbooks, laptops, and mp3 players. all hold charge and drain in a far more linear fashion.

    hopefully this is fixable by software.
    05-11-2010 10:51 AM
  3. bandit4's Avatar
    Ok, so I tried what the OP said and this is what happened so far...

    100% battery

    1 Hour and 7 minute phone call with speaker on.
    2 walking programs, Journey Tracker and SmartTraining, running in the background using GPS to track my walk and plot it on a map. I walked for 1 Hour and 14 minutes.
    Both the phone call w/ speakerphone and tracking programs were done at the same time.

    End of walk. Battery 60%

    What do you think?

    Tomorrow I will walk the same route and use the tracking programs and talk on the phone for an hour without charging the battery like the OP did and see what happens.
    05-11-2010 12:10 PM
  4. Adiliyo's Avatar
    that sounds reasonable, active GPS drains the heck out of the battery
    05-11-2010 12:14 PM
  5. kmully's Avatar
    I'm sitting at 93% 3 hours and 21 minutes since I did the trick. Looked a few webpages, no phone calls, several emails came in.

    Unheard of for me. Much happier with the battery life.
    05-11-2010 12:52 PM
  6. TBolt's Avatar

    Update: 10:36AM and still at 100%. This has literally never happened (1 hour and no loss of % on the display).
    That's starting to sound more like an improper reading.
    05-11-2010 12:52 PM
  7. slinky317's Avatar
    How do you get the exact battery level? Is it in the settings somewhere?
    05-11-2010 12:56 PM
  8. kmully's Avatar
    How do you get the exact battery level? Is it in the settings somewhere?
    I downloaded a battery display widget. I think it is called "battery widget" or something like that. Shows the percentage.
    05-11-2010 01:04 PM
  9. Adiliyo's Avatar
    there's a bunch of apps in the market, i use battery status pro (free)
    05-11-2010 01:04 PM
  10. Qazme's Avatar
    Well I'm 3 days into the new charging routine of turning the phone off. Still doing just regular charges after the initial bump charge.

    I have been leaving GPS, WiFi, and Mobile Network on all day. Found out btw the GPS works like the wifi and if not being used turns it's self into a low power mode.

    I'm at 71% after 6hrs 9mins. I did a lot of mobile browsing (2 hours), 12 phone calls all short maybe 1-5 minutes a call. Received gmail push for about 50 emails, sent/received 10 text message and Gtalked all day long so well over 50 messages.

    I think I've decided the phone being on is the issue with the phone charging. Going to try the next 3 days charging with the phone on and see what kind of life I'm getting out of it. Via this setup, like yesterday, using the phone pretty heavy I pulled 10 hours without a sweat using it all day, ended up not turning the phone off till 2am and the battery was still at 17%. (My usage pretty well dies off after 6pm. So the phone spent a lot of idle time between 6pm and 2 am.) So all considered I'm happy with the life of the battery now, not so happy with the preliminary results so we will see.

    Thank god for an alarm clock!
    05-11-2010 05:53 PM
  11. XXXdc5's Avatar
    I agree. And unless someone has tested each step individually, it's probably not doing anything useful for your phone.

    I turn mine off to charge when I go to sleep at night (I realize this is not an option for some people). That has greatly improved my batter life. I'm not doing this battery rain dance everyone's going on about.:rolleyes:
    Battery rain dance! This made me LOL. Just sayin

    Hopefully theirs a bat life fix in an update coming soon kinda like they fixed the storm 1 pretty quickly when it first came out
    05-11-2010 06:58 PM
  12. kmully's Avatar
    Well it's almost 9:30 Central time here... I'm down to only 70%. That's with multiple emails throughout the day, a bit of Twicca, and two ~5 minute phone calls.

    Massive improvement. Massive. We'll see if my phone dies overnight like it did last night (acted very strange).
    05-11-2010 09:27 PM
  13. kmully's Avatar
    Update:

    Battery removed from charger ~9:30AM yesterday after doing this trick
    Battery percentage: 53%
    Up time: 22 hours, 26 minutes
    Awake time: 1 hour, 3 minutes

    What's used battery:
    44% Cell standby
    43% Phone idle
    7% Android system
    4% Voice calls
    2% Display

    This has worked beautifully for me. I guess I should have tested the battery trick without ATK and then with ATK, but either way this is working great. I'm using both the charging trick and ATK.
    05-12-2010 07:54 AM
  14. howarmat's Avatar
    the 1 hour and 3 minute uptime means you are barely even touching the phone though. i have awake time of 2:34 since last night and that really isnt all that much use, not even moderate really.
    05-12-2010 08:06 AM
  15. kmully's Avatar
    the 1 hour and 3 minute uptime means you are barely even touching the phone though. i have awake time of 2:34 since last night and that really isnt all that much use, not even moderate really.
    Right, but if that is my normal use it can still be used to compare to previous battery life. Even with that little use in the past I would never make it through an entire day. The battery would just flop. As I mentioned in the sticky thread at the top of the forum regarding battery issues, I went to bed the other night at 70% and the phone died in the middle of the night.

    My only concern is this ends up damaging the battery somehow.
    05-12-2010 08:20 AM
  16. mritter88's Avatar
    Update:

    What's used battery:
    44% Cell standby
    43% Phone idle
    7% Android system
    4% Voice calls
    2% Display
    Why is my "Android system" always at least like 50%? It doesn't seem like it should be so high, and by looking at yours it seems this isn't the case for everyone. Maybe it's just because you barely used your phone? *shrugs*
    05-12-2010 08:41 AM
  17. VZWBB's Avatar
    mr88, I can't really answer the question, however, my phone was high after setup until I rebooted it and then the android sytem usage went down (to like 2%). Now yesterday I ran it down until the phone wouldn't even turn on, charged it up and turned it back on and now my andriod usage is at like 92%.

    I think it has something to do with the time it starts measuring usage. If it happens soon enough, it catches all the usage as the phone boots, if it happens later it only catches some or very little. At least thats my guess anyways.
    05-12-2010 09:14 AM
  18. mritter88's Avatar
    mr88, I can't really answer the question, however, my phone was high after setup until I rebooted it and then the android sytem usage went down (to like 2%). Now yesterday I ran it down until the phone wouldn't even turn on, charged it up and turned it back on and now my andriod usage is at like 92%.

    I think it has something to do with the time it starts measuring usage. If it happens soon enough, it catches all the usage as the phone boots, if it happens later it only catches some or very little. At least thats my guess anyways.
    Interesting. I guess it's not really a huge deal, I was just curious (I'd also imagine that high system usage would use more battery, but Idk)
    05-12-2010 09:26 AM
  19. ezmune's Avatar
    I wished I had my regular DROID back!! I work 12 hr. shifts at night and at least the Droid lasted the whole shift at work. I've got the new INCREDIBLE DROID. I like it except for the battery won't last more that about 7 hrs. at work! This is pitiful. Why couldn't the engineers put in a battery like they did the Droid?? I like the lightness, and the text messaging on the INCREDIBLE DROID but the battery SUX. I wished I had never ordered this incredible.
    05-12-2010 09:33 AM
  20. tjubb's Avatar
    I wished I had my regular DROID back!! I work 12 hr. shifts at night and at least the Droid lasted the whole shift at work. I've got the new INCREDIBLE DROID. I like it except for the battery won't last more that about 7 hrs. at work! This is pitiful. Why couldn't the engineers put in a battery like they did the Droid?? I like the lightness, and the text messaging on the INCREDIBLE DROID but the battery SUX. I wished I had never ordered this incredible.
    Because they want us all to shell out $60 for the extended battery. Sadly, I'm in the same boat as you and I now have to keep the phone plugged in at all times now in case I end up away from an outlet for an extended period of time. I'm not happy about it but I am anxiously awaiting the VZW extended battery because I need it to get through a full day.
    05-12-2010 09:42 AM
  21. mritter88's Avatar
    Because they want us all to shell out $60 for the extended battery. Sadly, I'm in the same boat as you and I now have to keep the phone plugged in at all times now in case I end up away from an outlet for an extended period of time. I'm not happy about it but I am anxiously awaiting the VZW extended battery because I need it to get through a full day.
    And because they were made by different companies lol
    05-12-2010 09:44 AM
  22. kmully's Avatar
    I wished I had my regular DROID back!! I work 12 hr. shifts at night and at least the Droid lasted the whole shift at work. I've got the new INCREDIBLE DROID. I like it except for the battery won't last more that about 7 hrs. at work! This is pitiful. Why couldn't the engineers put in a battery like they did the Droid?? I like the lightness, and the text messaging on the INCREDIBLE DROID but the battery SUX. I wished I had never ordered this incredible.
    Before going off on a rant, have you tried any of the battery tricks listed in this thread or elsewhere in the forum?
    05-12-2010 09:50 AM
  23. aug0211#WN's Avatar
    Got to say, I thought this was helping me, but it was hard to say because I ended up unplugging my phone so late into the day that I couldn't be sure.

    Woke up extra early this AM to be sure I got the bump charges in as needed (also charged with phone off all night). So, this is my first "true" day of testing it (even though it's the third day I've used this bump method).

    I unlpugged my device at 8:02 am. I have 7% left at 3:14 pm my time.

    Cell standby: 26
    Android Ststem: 23
    Phone idle: 18
    Wifi: 10
    BT: 9
    Voice calls: 7
    Display: 7


    Thoughts? Extended battery is in my future, I think...
    05-12-2010 02:18 PM
  24. TBolt's Avatar


    Thoughts? Extended battery is in my future, I think...
    Your experience sounds exactly like mine. I stopped bothering with the tricks. I'm just hanging on for that huge 3500 by Seidio at this point. Once I have that, I won't care about battery power again.

    I 'chatted' with Seidio support today -- they think the 3500 will be out in a month.
    05-12-2010 02:26 PM
  25. aug0211#WN's Avatar
    And officially dead 3:25 my time... gets me through like half the day
    05-12-2010 02:27 PM
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