1. IamGov#IM's Avatar
    Ok so I have owned quite a few smartphones in my day, well to be honest 32 different models in 3 years time. You could say that I am either really picky with what I get or am just looking for the latest and greatest item. Since picking up the Incredible I have been overly pleased with it's capabilities, so I thought I could comment on the most recent smartphones that have really entertained my interests! Hope you all find this somewhat useful in case you are on the edge!

    iPhone: Some say the pioneer of the new revolution in smartphone design. Some say the blood sucking tool of Steve Jobs. I say it is one of the best all around devices presented to you on the crappiest network around. Yes I said it, sorry AT&T, but when your contract explicitly reads "Do not guarantee service within buildings", and you use that to your benefit, it makes people wonder if they have to be in the great plains in order to access the MOST BARS IN MOST PLACES. As for the device it is the great mix between business and pleasure, but does have some significant fall backs. 1. There is not much capability for customization with hacking. Unless you jailbreak one of these you are stuck with simply changing background images. 2. Prior to 3G-S the devices had very little temporary memory. Maybe this is the driver behind not multi tasking . 3. Unless you are willing to spend 100 bucks more you are limited to 8gb of memory. Now this may have been good a year or so ago, but now with HD movies, pictures, games, and much more this memory will become limiting. 4. Apple likes Apple stuff made by Apple people that costs enough to make Apple salaries ridiculously high. That's right, be ready to spend a pretty penny to keep this device up to date and running the best apps. No freebie Google stuff here!

    Droid: This device is what I like to call the opportunity window for the Android community. Prior to this device Android run phones were few and far between. Now some of this can be contributed to the fact that T-Mobile held the market share on Android for awhile, and with their lack of strong 3G support, the devices were falling on def ears. With the inception of this device on a larger, much more powerful network, came the culmination of the community. The app market has been growing exponentially and hundreds of thousands of units have been sold. The device it's self was a great build by Motorola. The design makes the device feel durable and easy to use. The slide out qwerty keyboard immediately have this device a one up on the iPhone. In addition the upgradable HD space via SD cards also drew some customers over from iPhone. From the 5 mp camera to the nice speaker package to Google maps, this product was truly the first honest competitor to the iPhone market. With all of these great items also came some down falls. 1. Motorola has not had a big breakthrough since the RAZOR and that lack of current knowledge is present with the Droid. The software that runs with Android OS is almost non-existent. I cannot speak for any of you out there, but I was expecting much more user interface, maybe an attempt at MotoBlur? 2. The ROM is ok, but not great. Combine this with an under clocked processor and you get a recipe for non-conforming technology. Soon apps were being produced that the Droid could simply not efficiently run without some lag. Hacking and overclocking the device takes care of some of these issues, but then you will run into battery issues, over heating problems, and lack of warranty. 3. Lack of accessory support. To this day not getting love from outside vendors, the Android based phone could not compete with iPhone here. It is kind of hard to do when every electronics manufacturer is embedded in making a 16 pin iPhone attachment, no one seems to care about micro-usb. It is something out of the control of the Droid, but yet will still have an effect on consumers.

    The INDREDIBLE: Now I have owned many HTC based products and all seem to push the envelope with design, both hardware and software. I do understand this phones is not as "durable" as the Droid, but then again either is the iPhone. Moto made a good shell, but HTC put together some great internals and software packages. Being a businessman I prefer the great internals over a rugged shell. Everything I thought the Droid was going to give me, the Incredible ended up doing. To explain a little further I had high expectations for the Droid to be able to interface my contacts, FB, Twitter, and various other things all within the OS. Unfortunately this was NOT the case with the Droid. HTC fixed this issue with HTC sense and the inception of "people" and "Friend feed". These apps, if not familiar with them, really show off the capabilities of the OS. I can go to one area of my phone and check Twitter/FB updates, as well as see who emailed me, text me, and what calls I have outstanding. It really put everything together. I don't really miss the QWERTY keyboard as I used the iPhone for awhile and also found myself using the screen more on the Droid than the keyboard. The touch interface is very easy to use and with the addition of the optical trackball, similar to trackpad/ball on blackberry, it makes the device easily navigable. I have not seen many flaws on this device that cannot be fixed with a few software updates. I can only think of 2 deterrents to buying the phone 1. You love the durable feel of the Droid 2. You like all the pretty accessories you can buy for your iPhone. (But just remember they don't hold a 1ghz processor and around 200mb of free ROM).

    I honestly cannot close this off with a little love to my friends over on Blackberry. Those devices are the true pavers of this community. Without the innovations RIM developed over the past decades we would not have the smartphone community that we see today. I loved my Blackberries, but sad to say the times are passing RIM as more and more users like to do more with their devices than just email. Yes I know you cynic out their, Blackberries do a lot more than email, but play around with one for awhile (i.e. browser, FB, nav, etc..) and you will see a lag. Now do the same with an Android or iPhone....see the difference? Yeah I though so.
    :heart: to all :blackdroid::motdroidvert::greendroid::reddroid
    05-09-2010 12:26 AM
  2. aaoflaca's Avatar
    Good review, I have to agree w/you
    05-09-2010 12:59 AM
  3. Kylazin's Avatar
    Nice review. Nice to see the honest opinion of someone who has owned them all.
    05-09-2010 08:37 AM
  4. Qazme's Avatar
    All phones are great for people with those phones. Each phone serves a purpose to someone and the Incredible serves my purpose perfectly. Now that I've used it could I step back to a Moto Droid, Blackberry, or an iPhone? Nope. Good review, I'm sure there are quite a few people here that will agree with you.
    05-09-2010 08:44 AM
  5. JTEastwood's Avatar
    Nicely stated.
    (former bb abuser)
    05-09-2010 11:07 AM
  6. ucfgrad93's Avatar
    That was a nice comparison of the 3 phones OP. However, I do have a couple of minor corrections.

    First, is your statement about the iPhone's memory. "Unless you are willing to spend 100 bucks more you are limited to 8gb of memory." An Incredible costs $199 and comes with 8GB. For the same price the iPhone has 16GB. So you don't have to spend $100 more as you stated.

    Second, not sure what you meant by saying "That's right, be ready to spend a pretty penny to keep this device up to date and running the best apps." Updates to the OS have always been free on the iPhone, and there are plenty of free apps in the App Store to choose from.
    05-09-2010 11:11 AM
  7. Qazme's Avatar
    I believe he mean you would pay $100 more over the base 8GB iPhone to get more memory. And about the money to keep it up, he means having to buy a new iPhone for the new features etc. IE iPhone Gen2 to 3g --> 3GS.
    05-09-2010 03:22 PM
  8. ucfgrad93's Avatar
    I believe he mean you would pay $100 more over the base 8GB iPhone to get more memory.
    Then he should have mentioned that the 8GB iPhone will only cost $99. In my opinion, the better comparison of memory is by how much you spend. If you are willing to spend $199 on an Incredible, then that same money will get you twice the memory on the iPhone.
    05-09-2010 03:28 PM
  9. Qazme's Avatar
    Then he should have mentioned that the 8GB iPhone will only cost $99. In my opinion, the better comparison of memory is by how much you spend. If you are willing to spend $199 on an Incredible, then that same money will get you twice the memory on the iPhone.
    Same with the iPhone depending on your upgrade path you can get the incredible for $99. Memory is also upgradeable with the incredible where it isn't the iPhone, faster processor and all that Jazz. So comparing the two phones isn't even really a good comparative and isn't a good indicator on price. So now, in your case, you have paid $199 for an outdated iPhone with twice the memory.
    05-09-2010 03:49 PM
  10. ucfgrad93's Avatar
    How can you get the Incredible for $99? I haven't seen it for that price. I'm not denying that the Incredible has better specs than the iPhone. But considering that the current iPhone was introduced almost a year ago, it isn't too surprising that the Incredible has better specs.
    05-09-2010 04:16 PM
  11. ptb127's Avatar
    And app updates are normally free as well.

    That was a nice comparison of the 3 phones OP. However, I do have a couple of minor corrections.

    First, is your statement about the iPhone's memory. "Unless you are willing to spend 100 bucks more you are limited to 8gb of memory." An Incredible costs $199 and comes with 8GB. For the same price the iPhone has 16GB. So you don't have to spend $100 more as you stated.

    Second, not sure what you meant by saying "That's right, be ready to spend a pretty penny to keep this device up to date and running the best apps." Updates to the OS have always been free on the iPhone, and there are plenty of free apps in the App Store to choose from.
    05-09-2010 04:57 PM
  12. dc5dugg's Avatar
    How can you get the Incredible for $99? I haven't seen it for that price. I'm not denying that the Incredible has better specs than the iPhone. But considering that the current iPhone was introduced almost a year ago, it isn't too surprising that the Incredible has better specs.
    I think the point the OP is trying to make about the iPhone is that once you've bought one, you can't upgrade it in any way except by buying a new iPhone, which I'm sure you'll agree is very expensive. With something like the Incredible, you can add 16gb of storage by buying a microSD card for like $35-50.
    05-09-2010 05:08 PM
  13. Qazme's Avatar
    How can you get the Incredible for $99? I haven't seen it for that price. I'm not denying that the Incredible has better specs than the iPhone. But considering that the current iPhone was introduced almost a year ago, it isn't too surprising that the Incredible has better specs.
    A $299 2 year contract, $100 mail in rebate with a $100 NE2 discount. $99. That's why I buy all my phones through the website. There have been people here who even got that price.........

    How has this turned into an iPhone debate lol?
    05-09-2010 05:09 PM
  14. Groucho's Avatar
    Well organized and thoughtful piece. I was hard pressed to jump from Blackberry but agree that RIM has been cloistered and has now probably missed the market. My Storm 1 had none of the problems I constantly read about on CB and except for the ridiculous browser and what i now know is a very slow keyboard, I had no real complaints.

    One thing you might have included. The removable and user replaceable battery on the INC is a major advantage over the iPhone. While I realize the INC battery life is not terrific at this point, for those of us that are either in an office, car or home all day it really does not make a difference.
    05-09-2010 05:48 PM
  15. IamGov#IM's Avatar
    That was a nice comparison of the 3 phones OP. However, I do have a couple of minor corrections.

    First, is your statement about the iPhone's memory. "Unless you are willing to spend 100 bucks more you are limited to 8gb of memory." An Incredible costs $199 and comes with 8GB. For the same price the iPhone has 16GB. So you don't have to spend $100 more as you stated.

    Second, not sure what you meant by saying "That's right, be ready to spend a pretty penny to keep this device up to date and running the best apps." Updates to the OS have always been free on the iPhone, and there are plenty of free apps in the App Store to choose from.
    1. Incredible as cd card....I can go to 32gb

    2. Let me know how 4.0 looks on 3G.....oh wait that is not going to happen....just like 3.0 did not work on original iPhone....hmmmm
    05-10-2010 10:28 PM
  16. IamGov#IM's Avatar
    Well organized and thoughtful piece. I was hard pressed to jump from Blackberry but agree that RIM has been cloistered and has now probably missed the market. My Storm 1 had none of the problems I constantly read about on CB and except for the ridiculous browser and what i now know is a very slow keyboard, I had no real complaints.

    One thing you might have included. The removable and user replaceable battery on the INC is a major advantage over the iPhone. While I realize the INC battery life is not terrific at this point, for those of us that are either in an office, car or home all day it really does not make a difference.
    LoL, I could NOT STAND the browser on BB. Opera or Bolt was the way to go.
    05-10-2010 10:30 PM
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