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  1. ibejack96's Avatar
    Well as long as its coming to AT&T...
    If this is true, I do feel bad for you Verizon subscribers
    09-06-2011 04:47 PM
  2. holysnikey's Avatar
    That link is just reiterating the opinion or "leak" by BGR stating that there is actually a Nexus Prime that is a true vanilla Nexus device with no bloatware, unlocked bootloader and timely updates. Then there is a Droid Prime, which is a Verizon branded version of the Nexus Prime that is full of the VZW bloatware, might have a UI over ICS, possibly locked or partially locked bootloader and all updates may have to pass through VZW before the phone gets it. This is not really news its just a site trying to stir up the pot using rumors since so many people that go on these sites are anticipating this phone and no new news has come up yet. Although since there is both the SCH-i515 and the GTI9250 this seems possible or there may just be two new phones coming out. For all we know there could be a Verizon bloated Droid Prime designed to sell and then there is a pure unlocked CDMA/GSM Nexus that all carriers support! Its all rumors for now and I don't know about you guys but its getting really old how all these sites keep stating rumors like they are facts. /rant
    09-06-2011 05:18 PM
  3. TheDave's Avatar
    well, this could turn out to be a real kick in the crotch: False Alarm, No Google Nexus Prime Coming To Verizon After All?

    i may end up with the Droid HD after all...

    edit: after closer reading, GizmoCrunch cites AndroidSoul, who cites Droid-Life, who cites BGR. in other words, Gizmo isn't relying on any of its own sources, but is merely giving its own interpretation to a 3rd iteration/interpretation of the original BGR article..... nothing new here, and certainly no facts.
    Thanks for the cardiac arrhythmia...
    09-06-2011 07:09 PM
  4. crzycrkr's Avatar
    well, this could turn out to be a real kick in the crotch: False Alarm, No Google Nexus Prime Coming To Verizon After All?

    i may end up with the Droid HD after all...

    edit: after closer reading, GizmoCrunch cites AndroidSoul, who cites Droid-Life, who cites BGR. in other words, Gizmo isn't relying on any of its own sources, but is merely giving its own interpretation to a 3rd iteration/interpretation of the original BGR article..... nothing new here, and certainly no facts.
    Lol, right back to what we've spoken of in the past. All these rumors keep coming back to BGR.

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    09-06-2011 07:13 PM
  5. Scottatron's Avatar
    09-06-2011 07:23 PM
  6. DolfanCole's Avatar
    How has that been shown to be true? What Nexus has the GS2 competed with?
    The Nexus', in general, have not sold as well as other devices. The majority of the people (i.e., the general public) have shown to prefer the skinned phones over the Nexus line. When you look at the geeks, enthusiasts, etc., the story is different. That's a good reason why Verizon has gone away from the Nexus line.
    09-06-2011 07:37 PM
  7. slimjamm's Avatar
    Is this the User Agent file? I see it's the Voda model? GT-I9250. Where did you get this?
    09-06-2011 08:28 PM
  8. slimjamm's Avatar
    09-06-2011 08:47 PM
  9. the one and only M's Avatar
    800 x 480 screen res is WEAK!!
    09-06-2011 08:53 PM
  10. ejaymd11's Avatar
    The Nexus', in general, have not sold as well as other devices. The majority of the people (i.e., the general public) have shown to prefer the skinned phones over the Nexus line. When you look at the geeks, enthusiasts, etc., the story is different. That's a good reason why Verizon has gone away from the Nexus line.
    I'm going to disagree here. The reason the Nexus hasn't sod well is because it isn't marketed period. I have never ever ever ever seen any type of Nexus commercial. Have you? The Nexus doesn't sell because nobody knows what the hell a Nexus is. Verizon has never gone away from the Nexus line, because they were never with it in the first place. I'm sure the majority of people would love a pure Android device if it isn't slowed down, and buggy. If you market it the right way everyone would want it. In reality what does a phone with Sense or Blur do, that pure Android doesn't do? Oh and I'm sure the VAST majority of OG Droid users would jump at the chance to use their upgrade on a brand new Nexus device. If they market this phone the way it should be it will be a killer device.
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    09-06-2011 08:56 PM
  11. ejaymd11's Avatar
    well, this could turn out to be a real kick in the crotch: False Alarm, No Google Nexus Prime Coming To Verizon After All?

    i may end up with the Droid HD after all...

    edit: after closer reading, GizmoCrunch cites AndroidSoul, who cites Droid-Life, who cites BGR. in other words, Gizmo isn't relying on any of its own sources, but is merely giving its own interpretation to a 3rd iteration/interpretation of the original BGR article..... nothing new here, and certainly no facts.
    Yeah they had me trippin also, plus they are the only ones that I've seen mention touchwiz. I don't think GizmoCrunch knows much of everything. Plus they seem to be very pro iphone from some of their recent articles I've read.

    SN Think about all the hardcore Android fans that would jump ship and come to VZW to get the Nexus?? I for one will strongly consider leaving VZW if they bring some crap loaded with touchwiz. Only thing that would keep me is to see if maybe the new Motorola would bring a pure Android phone.
    09-06-2011 09:01 PM
  12. slimjamm's Avatar
    800 x 480 screen res is WEAK!!
    Here is the Nexus S UA profile. Exact same, so don't get all nuts about screen res, cpu. These specs aren't final. http://wap.samsungmobile.com/uaprof/nexuss.xml
    09-06-2011 09:01 PM
  13. nemov's Avatar
    Here is the Nexus S UA profile. Exact same, so don't get all nuts about screen res, cpu. These specs aren't final. http://wap.samsungmobile.com/uaprof/nexuss.xml
    This does give credence to the fact that there's a "Nexus Prime" named device. Right?
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    09-06-2011 09:15 PM
  14. crzycrkr's Avatar
    I'm going to disagree here. The reason the Nexus hasn't sod well is because it isn't marketed period. I have never ever ever ever seen any type of Nexus commercial. Have you? The Nexus doesn't sell because nobody knows what the hell a Nexus is. Verizon has never gone away from the Nexus line, because they were never with it in the first place. I'm sure the majority of people would love a pure Android device if it isn't slowed down, and buggy. If you market it the right way everyone would want it. In reality what does a phone with Sense or Blur do, that pure Android doesn't do? Oh and I'm sure the VAST majority of OG Droid users would jump at the chance to use their upgrade on a brand new Nexus device. If they market this phone the way it should be it will be a killer device.
    Agreed
    09-06-2011 09:33 PM
  15. DolfanCole's Avatar
    I'm going to disagree here. The reason the Nexus hasn't sod well is because it isn't marketed period. I have never ever ever ever seen any type of Nexus commercial. Have you? The Nexus doesn't sell because nobody knows what the hell a Nexus is. Verizon has never gone away from the Nexus line, because they were never with it in the first place. I'm sure the majority of people would love a pure Android device if it isn't slowed down, and buggy. If you market it the right way everyone would want it. In reality what does a phone with Sense or Blur do, that pure Android doesn't do? Oh and I'm sure the VAST majority of OG Droid users would jump at the chance to use their upgrade on a brand new Nexus device. If they market this phone the way it should be it will be a killer device.
    I would agree that it hasn't been marketed well. However, what Sense, Blur, TouchWiz, etc., do is provide a user easier access for common operations, along with some eye-candy. The majority of customers prefer this ease of use over most all else, and thus that's what ends up selling better. That's a huge reason as to why the iPhone sells so well.

    Verizon was not in the game because they chose not to be. And part of their reasoning is the same as what I'm saying -- they don't believe that a Nexus device is more desired over custom skinned devices such as the TBolt, Bionic, etc.
    09-07-2011 07:46 AM
  16. TheDave's Avatar
    Verizon didnt want a stock android device because they didnt stand out from the beginning, and would not sell.

    With stock now being rare overall, its a legitimate selling point to have and it being stock alone will set it apart.

    Besides, it needs marketing period if you want it to sell. Anyone rememeber Nexus marketing?....Exactly.
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    09-07-2011 08:22 AM
  17. ejaymd11's Avatar
    I would agree that it hasn't been marketed well. However, what Sense, Blur, TouchWiz, etc., do is provide a user easier access for common operations, along with some eye-candy. The majority of customers prefer this ease of use over most all else, and thus that's what ends up selling better. That's a huge reason as to why the iPhone sells so well.

    Verizon was not in the game because they chose not to be. And part of their reasoning is the same as what I'm saying -- they don't believe that a Nexus device is more desired over custom skinned devices such as the TBolt, Bionic, etc.
    Blur was ugly as hell, touchwiz is ugly, and sense is okay. Also, what did those skins really ad that wasn't already there? Well I guess sense added a huge giant clock that took up half the screen. So if you ask me non of those skins really stood out period. Plus ICS I think will be a whole lot different.
    09-07-2011 01:01 PM
  18. rickhamilton620's Avatar
    Blur was ugly as hell, touchwiz is ugly, and sense is okay. Also, what did those skins really ad that wasn't already there? Well I guess sense added a huge giant clock that took up half the screen. So if you ask me non of those skins really stood out period. Plus ICS I think will be a whole lot different.
    Actually skins are more than skin deep in many cases. TouchWiz devices, for example, have a GPU accelerated browser that enhances responsiveness, the mini app panel on the new tablets, etc. Sense and Blur services equipped phones offer optional functionality that other platforms have out of the box that stock Android doesnt. Stuff like phone locate/ring/lock and wipe, online photo viewing/backup, call log/text message online viewing, and more. IIRC, Blur devices still support more accounts out of the box (like last.fm....built right into the phone) than stock.

    While its possible to get functionality like this by downloading individual apps, something has to be said for the integrated look and feel of FriendStream/Peep, BuddiesNow, and their respective widgets. Everything blends in, like it was made to be there. Plus its one less app to download, one less service running in the background, etc.

    Finally, stock's look is sooo bland. I own a stock device and see the appeal of it but it is admittedly a bit plain Jane. Now who knows, ICS might surprise us, but that (admittedly questionable) leaked set of screen shots suggests otherwise.
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    09-08-2011 06:30 AM
  19. ottscay's Avatar
    SN Think about all the hardcore Android fans that would jump ship and come to VZW to get the Nexus?? I for one will strongly consider leaving VZW if they bring some crap loaded with touchwiz. Only thing that would keep me is to see if maybe the new Motorola would bring a pure Android phone.
    If Verizon doesn't release a stock version of the ICS device I will not be a Verizon customer by 2012, period. I like their network, but I'm not willing to be held a slave to their idiotic choices of what "differentiates" a phone. I don't mind that they sell customers Blur and Touchwiz phones, as long as I get a choice of a real phone with the stock UI (sorry, but the Xperia Play doesn't count). They either get with the program or I stop sending them e-payments every month.
    09-09-2011 07:38 PM
  20. rlb81's Avatar
    I'm sure the VAST majority of OG Droid users would jump at the chance to use their upgrade on a brand new Nexus device. If they market this phone the way it should be it will be a killer device.
    Completely agreed. Coming from vanilla (OG Droid, then a DroidX running Apex 2.0) I can't wait for another chance at pure Android. And I don't mean ROM-ing my $300 Bionic that's going back tonight.

    I would agree that it hasn't been marketed well. However, what Sense, Blur, TouchWiz, etc., do is provide a user easier access for common operations, along with some eye-candy. The majority of customers prefer this ease of use over most all else, and thus that's what ends up selling better. That's a huge reason as to why the iPhone sells so well.
    Perhaps if Android was standard across the board it would be held in higher regard. The iPhone is the iPhone, period. Android here isn't Android there. Pick up a Blur device and a Sense device side by side, it's not the same experience. Is that good or bad? I suppose that's up to the individual, but it sure doesn't help marketability in the end.

    Sense and Blur services equipped phones offer optional functionality that other platforms have out of the box that stock Android doesnt. Stuff like phone locate/ring/lock and wipe, online photo viewing/backup, call log/text message online viewing, and more.
    While the skins may add functionality how much of that is used by the average person? I think in the end the skins fragment Android too much and cause bugs in phone A while phone B works just fine. Ready any App review in the market...

    Finally, stock's look is sooo bland. I own a stock device and see the appeal of it but it is admittedly a bit plain Jane. Now who knows, ICS might surprise us, but that (admittedly questionable) leaked set of screen shots suggests otherwise.
    iphone is a bit bland looking too, IMO. But then again some people prefer simplicity vs a bunch of extra stuff that probably doesn't get used. Uniformity is nice in widgets, menus etc but take Blur for example....it's way more ugly than vanilla android.

    In the end I just hope VZW gets another phone that can stand up to the OG droid in terms of impact and user experience.
    09-21-2011 11:46 AM
  21. dsignori's Avatar

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    re: "I would agree that it hasn't been marketed well. However, what Sense, Blur, TouchWiz, etc., do is provide a user easier access for common operations, along with some eye-candy. The majority of customers prefer this ease of use over most all else, and thus that's what ends up selling better. That's a huge reason as to why the iPhone sells so well.



    Perhaps if Android was standard across the board it would be held in higher regard. The iPhone is the iPhone, period. Android here isn't Android there. Pick up a Blur device and a Sense device side by side, it's not the same experience. Is that good or bad? I suppose that's up to the individual, but it sure doesn't help marketability in the end.

    ....
    The skins DO add functionality and ease of use. To me they are helpful. I love the Wifi, 3G, bluetooth, etc on/off widgets in the notifications shade in TouchWiz, for example. Infinitely more useful than stock Android. There are many examples like this. They don't just make the OS pretty (though I think that is also a benefit, as I to find stock very, very bland and lacking inspiration), but they increase functionality.

    Now if these skins slow the phone down, that's an issue that the user would need to weigh in making a decision. I actually like TouchWiz on my Samsung Fascinate. I had the OG (still do , somewhere), and prefer Touchwiz over stock. Maybe with ICS a lot of this will change, maybe not.

    But if a skin looks good, increases functionality and doesn't markedly slow the phone down, people are going to like it and I think that is what we see in the general public ..
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    09-21-2011 01:08 PM
  22. sblantipodi's Avatar
    I hope that all nexus will bring Amoled display and not some with SLCD and some with Amoled as it happened with Nexus S.
    10-02-2011 12:55 PM
  23. soma4society's Avatar
    Hi all,
    New to the forums (and hopefully to Android with the Prime). I'm seeing a lot of speculation about Verizon as the likely carrier. But what I'll really be after is an unlocked Prime. If Google does a carrier-branded phone on release day, what's the likelihood that they'll simultaneously offer an unlocked GSM version in the $5-$600 range?

    Thanks
    C
    10-04-2011 08:24 PM
  24. TheDave's Avatar
    Hi all,
    New to the forums (and hopefully to Android with the Prime). I'm seeing a lot of speculation about Verizon as the likely carrier. But what I'll really be after is an unlocked Prime. If Google does a carrier-branded phone on release day, what's the likelihood that they'll simultaneously offer an unlocked GSM version in the $5-$600 range?

    Thanks
    C
    You will probably see 2 versions released: an unsubsidized european version and Verizon's exclusive for the states. Bottom line, you will have to pay full retail for GSM right away.

    We will know in a week.
    10-04-2011 08:35 PM
  25. SpaceHippie's Avatar
    The skins DO add functionality and ease of use. To me they are helpful. I love the Wifi, 3G, bluetooth, etc on/off widgets in the notifications shade in TouchWiz, for example. Infinitely more useful than stock Android. There are many examples like this. They don't just make the OS pretty (though I think that is also a benefit, as I to find stock very, very bland and lacking inspiration), but they increase functionality.

    Now if these skins slow the phone down, that's an issue that the user would need to weigh in making a decision. I actually like TouchWiz on my Samsung Fascinate. I had the OG (still do , somewhere), and prefer Touchwiz over stock. Maybe with ICS a lot of this will change, maybe not.

    But if a skin looks good, increases functionality and doesn't markedly slow the phone down, people are going to like it and I think that is what we see in the general public ..
    It would be best if they shipped all phones with their skin but had the option to run it stock. I don't think it's right the force people to use your skin. Give us the hardware and software option. They'd probably sell more.
    10-04-2011 08:39 PM
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