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  1. boondoc's Avatar
    i don't see any contradictions. sprints 4g is wimax. att is hspa+ and LTE. verizons is strictly LTE. from what he said about the earnings call and if the sgh-i777 is the att gs2 it doesn't have LTE so that pretty much means that verizon's is more than likely to have LTE
    07-28-2011 09:18 PM
  2. Alucardsyco's Avatar
    Sorry, I read it differently and had to look at it y'alls way.
    07-28-2011 09:22 PM
  3. EggoEspada's Avatar
    i don't see any contradictions. sprints 4g is wimax. att is hspa+ and LTE. verizons is strictly LTE. from what he said about the earnings call and if the sgh-i777 is the att gs2 it doen't have LTE so than that pretty much means that verizon's is more than likely to have LTE
    If this is the case, it makes sense for Verizon to release their GSII variant first and with LTE. It's Samsung's biggest contender against the iPhone.
    07-28-2011 09:27 PM
  4. neowarcloud's Avatar
    This confirms that the Verizon variant is going to have LTE. That is what I'm reading, correct? That would also make it appear that they are aiming for a September launch of their LTE enabled GS2.
    07-28-2011 10:20 PM
  5. nimazahir's Avatar
    07-28-2011 10:22 PM
  6. neowarcloud's Avatar
    I'd guess August 25th or Sept 1st.

    We don't even have conformation that it has passed through the FCC, however that is merely a formality.
    07-28-2011 10:30 PM
  7. EggoEspada's Avatar
    The fact that it hasn't shown up in the FCC doesn't really mean much. It could mean that they asked the file to be private till a specific date. Really, the fact that we haven't seen it at the FCC kinda makes you wonder that it will have LTE, which could be the reasoning for it being private. Also, rumors point the Bionic to launch early September. So if the Galaxy S II isn't here by the 12th, that means a) it won't have LTE and is coming late August or b) it could launch mid to late September after the Bionic and right before the iPhone 5. Really though August 11th is a solid date to consider when you look at what's coming very soon.
    07-28-2011 10:45 PM
  8. rickhamilton620's Avatar
    The fact that it hasn't shown up in the FCC doesn't really mean much. It could mean that they asked the file to be private till a specific date. Really, the fact that we haven't seen it at the FCC kinda makes you wonder that it will have LTE, which could be the reasoning for it being private. Also, rumors point the Bionic to launch early September. So if the Galaxy S II isn't here by the 12th, that means a) it won't have LTE and is coming late August or b) it could launch mid to late September after the Bionic and right before the iPhone 5. Really though August 11th is a solid date to consider when you look at what's coming very soon.
    Gahh. Damn you apple. I wanted it in early August and now ill likely have to wait. /madface
    07-28-2011 11:09 PM
  9. TeeSquar's Avatar
    Well, with Moto confirming a September Bionic launch it will be a race to see who's first ... Sammy Gal S2 or the Bionic.

    With as close as the launches will be, I'll more than likely defer to the S2.
    07-29-2011 07:59 AM
  10. nrk's Avatar
    Earnings released. LCD and semicon were poor, but mobile division lifted up other divisions' losses due to popularity of GS2.

    They also mentioned, in order to compete with iPhone 5, they will release GS2 with LTE around iPhone release.

    GS2 release in the US is around iPhone release, and sprint and ATT devices are 4g confirmed (though different from LTE). Hopefully VZW will get LTE!!
    Okay, trying to decipher this. I know people had said it was contradictory before, so let's try to clear this up:

    • Samsung said they were going to release an LTE version of the GS2.
    • We have already seen the Sprint (WiMax) and ATT (GSM) versions of these phones. Neither of which contain LTE.
    • Of those carriers, only ATT would be a realistic consideration to release an LTE GS2, and even then at this point that's a stretch considering their LTE network is essentially non-existant.
    • That means that if they are going to release an LTE version of the GS2 it would have to be on Verizon (or in another country altogether).
    • So therefore, the presumption is that the Verizon GS2 will have LTE


    Is that the working logic?
    07-29-2011 08:22 AM
  11. Asterdroid's Avatar
    Okay, trying to decipher this. I know people had said it was contradictory before, so let's try to clear this up:

    • Samsung said they were going to release an LTE version of the GS2.
    • We have already seen the Sprint (WiMax) and ATT (GSM) versions of these phones. Neither of which contain LTE.
    • Of those carriers, only ATT would be a realistic consideration to release an LTE GS2, and even then at this point that's a stretch considering their LTE network is essentially non-existant.
    • That means that if they are going to release an LTE version of the GS2 it would have to be on Verizon (or in another country altogether).
    • So therefore, the presumption is that the Verizon GS2 will have LTE


    Is that the working logic?
    That's the logic, however, I haven't actually seen where Sanjay says anything about an LTE SGS2. I probably just missed it, though.
    07-29-2011 08:37 AM
  12. nrk's Avatar
    That's the logic, however, I haven't actually seen where Sanjay says anything about an LTE SGS2. I probably just missed it, though.
    Yeah, that's what I'm wondering too. I think it would have been exploding by now if he did say it. I'm curious if he said "4G" and not LTE. We know they are having a 4G version of the GS2 (WiMax), so that doesn't really say anything about ATT.
    07-29-2011 08:42 AM
  13. landale's Avatar
    Also just because they say they will release an LTE GSII doesn't mean it will be part of an initial launch. Verizon could launch a 3G Fascinate II and then release an LTE one later in the year. As much as I would love a 4G GSII it just seems unlikely given the Droid Charge just came out in May which has the screen of the Galaxy S II but with the internals of the original S.
    07-29-2011 09:17 AM
  14. Stang68's Avatar
    I think the biggest issue here is that Sanjay Jha from Motorola claimed the Bionic will be the first dual-core LTE phone and it is coming in September. To me that means either the GSII is hitting in August and will be 3G or it is coming after the Bionic in September and will be LTE. Either way...boo.
    07-29-2011 09:46 AM
  15. Ferris.'s Avatar
    I think the biggest issue here is that Sanjay Jha from Motorola claimed the Bionic will be the first dual-core LTE phone and it is coming in September. To me that means either the GSII is hitting in August and will be 3G or it is coming after the Bionic in September and will be LTE. Either way...boo.
    I don't think a Motorola exec would have any inside information about when a Samsung product was coming out...
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    07-29-2011 09:56 AM
  16. DashShiron's Avatar
    He also claimed that the Xoom would be the first LTE tablet, didn't work out all that well.
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    07-29-2011 09:59 AM
  17. MasterGiraffe's Avatar
    While perusing the FCC site I found this Sammy phone that received FCC approval today

    apparently rumors say that it is going to be a 3D version of the SGSII.. that seems like it would be a bit early for FCC approval of such a device. I really hope its not the Verizon version considering it doesn't have a 4G radio...
    07-29-2011 10:38 AM
  18. DashShiron's Avatar
    I'm thinking that Samsung submitted all of the variants of the GSII they had to the FCC at once for approval and the FCC is still sorting through everything. I'm no expert on how long it takes to evaluate a device, but its hard deny that we've had a pretty steady stream of FCC approved GSII models in the past week. Hopefully one will sneak through with an LTE radio soon...
    07-29-2011 10:42 AM
  19. eksplosions's Avatar
    I hope VZW is above Sprint in that sense and passes over the 3D gimmick. I think we'll see all the FCC filings published in the next few days, it doesn't make sense for Samsung to request one variation to be confidential and others be public.
    07-29-2011 10:47 AM
  20. Serial Fordicator's Avatar
    Unless I'm in the wrong place, I went to their marketcall earnings pdf and didn't see anything about a sgs2 with LTE. The only thing I read was due to the expanding LTE market, they were working on LTE development.
    07-29-2011 10:49 AM
  21. eksplosions's Avatar
    Well the earnings call isn't launch platform for them, just to give investors a heads up. The PDF is a prepared statement (I'm guessing) which might/is different than what they actually said. Everything here is pretty much speculation/reading between the lines.
    07-29-2011 10:59 AM
  22. MasterGiraffe's Avatar
    Unless I'm in the wrong place, I went to their marketcall earnings pdf and didn't see anything about a sgs2 with LTE. The only thing I read was due to the expanding LTE market, they were working on LTE development.
    Yeah I just went through there earnings report and they only mention LTE three times. The first is where they say

    Sales and profitability improved YoY due to demand increase led by expansion of domestic / overseas LTE network and upgrade of domestic 3G network
    and the next two are when they say

    Developed markets : Expect strong demand for smartphone to continue with new LTE models , etc.
    LTE service expansion in US, smartphone line-up enhancement among EU carriers
    To me that sounds like they want to move into LTE in the future not that they are already in the LTE market...
    07-29-2011 10:59 AM
  23. eksplosions's Avatar
    But... They are in the LTE market... (Droid Charge)
    07-29-2011 11:00 AM
  24. MasterGiraffe's Avatar
    Sorry that was a bit unclear. I was referring to just the SGSII with that statement. To be more clear it sounds to me like they expect their demand that was created by the charge to continue with new LTE models. That could mean the SGSII, but for some reason I just have this horrible sinking feeling that it means further down the road. I'm not sure why, but from reading the slides it sounds like he is talking more about models that are still being designed and not models that are about to be released.

    Then again though it is pretty much impossible to glean that kind of information from power point slides. Sorry if that was a bit confusing.
    07-29-2011 11:04 AM
  25. Serial Fordicator's Avatar
    Well the earnings call isn't launch platform for them, just to give investors a heads up. The PDF is a prepared statement (I'm guessing) which might/is different than what they actually said. Everything here is pretty much speculation/reading between the lines.
    I agree, but i understood people as saying that the earnings call said that there was a version of the sgs2 that was LTE.
    07-29-2011 11:24 AM
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