New Roadmap Leaked - Stratosphere 9/8

[BigDFSU]

I meant to bring that up earlier, that seemed crazy to me that a Revolution 2 was going on sale so soon after the first one released.

 

[BigDFSU]

I have to admit that I am worrying slightly at the lack of info for the VZW S2. The window is starting to shrink if it is going for August. Don't know what to think about this Stratosphere launching the same day as the Bionic. There are differences between the Bionic and S2, but they both largely cater to the same crowd. Wouldn't make sense to me to release both on the same day unless this is just an issue of the Bionic delays and not wanting to delay the S2 as well because it would interfere with focus on the new iPhone that would launch soon. Only option after that is delaying the S2 until after the iPhone launch and risk pissing off Samsung and people waiting on this phone.

I'm fairly sure I said nothing new after typing this, so basically I agree with the people who said this first.

 

[Castor Troy]

Slowie I don't think any of us think an August release is possible. The million dollar question is if the Stratosphere is the GS2.


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[TeeSquar]

I have to admit that I am worrying slightly at the lack of info for the VZW S2. The window is starting to shrink if it is going for August. Don't know what to think about this Stratosphere launching the same day as the Bionic. There are differences between the Bionic and S2, but they both largely cater to the same crowd. Wouldn't make sense to me to release both on the same day unless this is just an issue of the Bionic delays and not wanting to delay the S2 as well because it would interfere with focus on the new iPhone that would launch soon. Only option after that is delaying the S2 until after the iPhone launch and risk pissing off Samsung and people waiting on this phone.

I'm fairly sure I said nothing new after typing this, so basically I agree with the people who said this first.

Yep. The Bionic seems to have kicked into gear in regard to "leaks". New photos or info every day or two now.

 

[geeksbsmrt]

I see a lot of people concerned about the phones releasing on the same date. This may actually be better for VZW. I say this because they will be releasing the phones from different manufacturers. Some people are very brand loyal and will not buy another brand. So, by releasing a Moto and Sammy phone on the same day it is possible to actually make more money than if they only released one phone. Capitalism at its finest: Give the market choices and only good things can come.

 

[DolfanCole]

Well all I know is that BMX said it would only be 3G and I also know Bionic is in End user experience level testing at Verizon when the GS2 isn't. If they are supposed to launch the same day it should be there. Also not having an FCC final report yet doesnt help. I'm just super skeptical right now. Believe me I'd love an LTE GS2 to launch ASAP, I'm just not seeing much of a window of possiblity anymore.

Actually what BMX said was that the current generation of LTE chips would not fit into the current form factor of the GSII. Samsung could have come up with another LTE chip that could fit (didn't they use their own for the Charge?) or they could have made it thicker to accommodate. So, it's not out of the question that it can still be LTE.

 

[MasterGiraffe]

I'm not really as worried about not having info from the FCC. If we are assuming that the GSII might be the Stratosphere then it would be releasing on the same day as the Bionic. Have we seen the FCC documentation on the Bionic? Maybe I am just way out of it and I missed the Bionic passing the FCC, but until the Bionic passes I'm not going to worry about the SGSII and/or Stratosphere passing the FCC. It still has a couple of weeks to make it through before I would start to worry.

 

[clearrants]

I'm not really as worried about not having info from the FCC. If we are assuming that the GSII might be the Stratosphere then it would be releasing on the same day as the Bionic. Have we seen the FCC documentation on the Bionic? Maybe I am just way out of it and I missed the Bionic passing the FCC, but until the Bionic passes I'm not going to worry about the SGSII and/or Stratosphere passing the FCC. It still has a couple of weeks to make it through before I would start to worry.

The Bionic passed through the FCC over a month ago

Did the Motorola Droid Bionic just clear the FCC? | Android Central

Also, the FCC confidentiality ends on Sunday.. unless Moto extends it of course.

 

[DolfanCole]

I'm not really as worried about not having info from the FCC. If we are assuming that the GSII might be the Stratosphere then it would be releasing on the same day as the Bionic. Have we seen the FCC documentation on the Bionic? Maybe I am just way out of it and I missed the Bionic passing the FCC, but until the Bionic passes I'm not going to worry about the SGSII and/or Stratosphere passing the FCC. It still has a couple of weeks to make it through before I would start to worry.

Yes, the Bionic has gone through the FCC. But there's still time. Whatever the Stratosphere is, it hasnt gone through yet.

 

[MasterGiraffe]

Haha oops I can't believe I missed something that important.

Well that pretty much makes my phone point invalid, but it's true there is still a bit of time before we have to panic. More pictures of the Bionic leaked also. It really does seem like there is a new leak of pictures every day. Its only a matter of time before it is officially announced. Hopefully the SGSII follows right after.

 

[Castor Troy]

Actually what BMX said was that the current generation of LTE chips would not fit into the current form factor of the GSII. Samsung could have come up with another LTE chip that could fit (didn't they use their own for the Charge?) or they could have made it thicker to accommodate. So, it's not out of the question that it can still be LTE.

They used the VIA chip for the Charge. They do make their own LTE chip as well, yes.

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[DolfanCole]

Haha oops I can't believe I missed something that important.

Well that pretty much makes my phone point invalid, but it's true there is still a bit of time before we have to panic. More pictures of the Bionic leaked also. It really does seem like there is a new leak of pictures every day. Its only a matter of time before it is officially announced. Hopefully the SGSII follows right after.

Yeah, but my point is, the Stratosphere is scheduled for release the same day according to the roadmap. Whatever it ends up being, whether it's the GSII, slider, or whatever, the point is that it hasn't gone through the FCC, but yet it's still slated for the same release date as the Bionic. We should be seeing something soon to help decipher what the Stratosphere actually is.

 

[shrugger]

Well all I know is that BMX said it would only be 3G and I also know Bionic is in End user experience level testing at Verizon when the GS2 isn't. If they are supposed to launch the same day it should be there. Also not having an FCC final report yet doesnt help. I'm just super skeptical right now. Believe me I'd love an LTE GS2 to launch ASAP, I'm just not seeing much of a window of possiblity anymore.

Except... Verizon is planning on releasing a Samsung device on Sep. 8. We don't know of the GS2 being in user testing, but we don't know of ANY Samsung device being in user testing.

So if the 9/8 release is correct, then either 1) Verizon has the Stratosphere in testing and we haven't had any leaks yet; or 2) they aren't doing the same level of testing on the Stratosphere as they are on Bionic.

If it's #1, there's no real reason to believe it is or isn't the GS2 vs. the slider. If it's #2, it makes it more likely it's the GS2 (a phone that has been widely tested around the world for months now- and only the Verizon-specific changes [LTE?] need to be tested out) than the slider.

So, if the 9/8 date is valid for a Samsung LTE device, it seems to me that it's as least as likely to be the GS2 as the slider based on what we know so far.

 

[Jtav27]

Except... Verizon is planning on releasing a Samsung device on Sep. 8. We don't know of the GS2 being in user testing, but we don't know of ANY Samsung device being in user testing.

So if the 9/8 release is correct, then either 1) Verizon has the Stratosphere in testing and we haven't had any leaks yet; or 2) they aren't doing the same level of testing on the Stratosphere as they are on Bionic.

If it's #1, there's no real reason to believe it is or isn't the GS2 vs. the slider. If it's #2, it makes it more likely it's the GS2 (a phone that has been widely tested around the world for months now- and only the Verizon-specific changes [LTE?] need to be tested out) than the slider.

So, if the 9/8 date is valid for a Samsung LTE device, it seems to me that it's as least as likely to be the GS2 as the slider based on what we know so far.

I agree. I doubt they would require the same testing for a phone that has been out in the rest of the world for many months now. But if it is the slider with GS2 internals you would think they would need more than just a month of testing due to such a big change in structure.

 

[rosser]

If BMX said that its too thin for the LTE version, and that they need to make it bigger, maybe they made it bigger but then it was too thick and so they just threw in a keyboard. I don't know anymore....

 

[Castor Troy]

If BMX said that its too thin for the LTE version, and that they need to make it bigger, maybe they made it bigger but then it was too thick and so they just threw in a keyboard. I don't know anymore....

Nah. Its either as thick or thinner than the Charge

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[chuckz28]

Actually what BMX said was that the current generation of LTE chips would not fit into the current form factor of the GSII. Samsung could have come up with another LTE chip that could fit (didn't they use their own for the Charge?) or they could have made it thicker to accommodate. So, it's not out of the question that it can still be LTE.

iSeano Sean O'Brien
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@black_man_x but will the galaxy s2 be an lte device. If so that's the selling point for me.
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@black_man_x
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@iSeano nope.. but 3g is still pretty nice... ok yea its not really..
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PHoldridge7232 Patrick Holdridge
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@black_man_x question is will it also be 4G LTE if it comes to Verizon like the bionic?
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@black_man_x
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@PHoldridge7232 nope...least not anytime soon.. charge is the sammy lte device.. n vzw doesnt love their customers that much.

and He also said there will be an epic 4g follow up (the slider) black_man_x The Panda King
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@DiGTALDementia moto device is coming.. there is also a wp7 device coming that rather low end. there is also an Epic4g followup
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He is adamant about it being only 3g.
Edit: And unfortunately I think all the evidence points to the stratosphere being the Epic slider and the device on the 29th being the GS2 as a 3g phone.

 

[Castor Troy]

Yeah well everyone is adamant about everything

Sit tight you will get an answer soon. Then we can put this discussion to bed.

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[chuckz28]

Yeah well everyone is adamant about everything

Sit tight you will get an answer soon. Then we can put this discussion to bed.

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He is a reliable source but I agree. Soon enough we will all find out and we can all go out day one and get a hot new phone...even if it isn't Verizon's version LOL.

 

[Serial Fordicator]

Every "leaked" roadmap I've seen of late is inaccurate. BMX, though I don't want to believe him, may be right. I really want it to be 4g, but all the evidence points to 3g. I pray it isn't as much as ck. I have a rooted tb, but want a dual core powerhouse and root it also.