08-19-2011 12:01 AM
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  1. yankdez's Avatar
    It could if it's on Verizon, and they back it with serious marketing.
    i dont see that happening. vzw would have to push it harder than the iphone, which wouldnt make any sense since it would be more cost efficient to just sell the iphone.
    08-17-2011 03:09 PM
  2. Asterdroid's Avatar
    i dont see that happening. vzw would have to push it harder than the iphone, which wouldnt make any sense since it would be more cost efficient to just sell the iphone.
    I tend to agree, but it's possible. I agree for different reasons, though. They pump tons of money into their "Droid" marketing, and this will not be a "Droid".
    08-17-2011 03:13 PM
  3. nrk's Avatar
    Bad news for CK if the Celox/GS2 rumors are to be believed from AC main page:

    A little more information has surfaced, and it sounds like Samsung has the ability to produce a 4.5 inch 720p Super AMOLED HD display, as long as the old style RGBG pentile matrix technology is used. While this isn't the best case scenario, it makes the Samsung Celox a bit more interesting, as it's reported that it will launch with a 4.5 inch 1280x720 Super AMOLED HD screen with a pentile matrix.
    08-18-2011 08:26 AM
  4. DolfanCole's Avatar
    Bad news for CK if the Celox/GS2 rumors are to be believed from AC main page:
    While it's definitely a downgrade IMO, it won't be as bad as Moto's pentile displays. All pentile displays are not created equal. I much prefer the SAMOLED pentile display on my wife's Fascinate to any of the pentile displays on Moto's devices. That said though, I can't see the SAMOLED HD display being ready for a GSII release in the next month or two. I hope that it's still the SAMOLED+.
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    08-18-2011 08:35 AM
  5. nrk's Avatar
    While it's definitely a downgrade IMO, it won't be as bad as Moto's pentile displays. All pentile displays are not created equal. I much prefer the SAMOLED pentile display on my wife's Fascinate to any of the pentile displays on Moto's devices. That said though, I can't see the SAMOLED HD display being ready for a GSII release in the next month or two. I hope that it's still the SAMOLED+.
    I've found Moto's more recent displays to be much better than previous attempts at it too.

    I have to admit, as someone who doesn't mind pentile subpixel layout (I don't prefer it, but it's not nearly as bothersome to me as it is to some people), I find this actually kind of ironic news if it turns out to be true. All the people who crusaded for the GS2 and railed on the alleged Bionic-pentile display as a major reason for not purchasing it may now have to justify it through completely subjective justification("Samsung's pentile is superior to Moto's pentile!").
    08-18-2011 09:01 AM
  6. Asterdroid's Avatar
    Bad news for CK if the Celox/GS2 rumors are to be believed from AC main page:
    Check the math I did in the "Droid HD change your mind" thread. If it's an HD screen, pentile matrix is irrelevant.
    08-18-2011 09:09 AM
  7. nrk's Avatar
    Check the math I did in the other thread. If it's an HD screen, pentile matrix is irrelevant.
    You're probably right (I didn't check/read the math). As I've said before, technology advacement will make the hatred of pentile disappear in the near future. The blindness of people who simply see "pentile" and crusade against it without any understanding of the technology or the logic behind it (thanks in large to a certain site-creator who people follow as if he's Moses) is laughable.

    I'm 99.9% sure I'd be just fine with this display.
    08-18-2011 09:12 AM
  8. DolfanCole's Avatar
    I've found Moto's more recent displays to be much better than previous attempts at it too.

    I have to admit, as someone who doesn't mind pentile subpixel layout (I don't prefer it, but it's not nearly as bothersome to me as it is to some people), I find this actually kind of ironic news if it turns out to be true. All the people who crusaded for the GS2 and railed on the alleged Bionic-pentile display as a major reason for not purchasing it may now have to justify it through completely subjective justification("Samsung's pentile is superior to Moto's pentile!").
    Would be quite ironic indeed. But, I can't emphasize enough that IMO Samsung's pentile SAMOLED is much better than the pentile LCD on the latest Motorola phones. I haven't really looked at the earlier Moto displays. I have personally looked at the D3 and DX2 and they're quite bothersome to me. A simple comparison can be done in the store by looking at the Fascinate versus the D3 (granted there's still Fascinates in stock).
    08-18-2011 09:19 AM
  9. Asterdroid's Avatar
    Would be quite ironic indeed. But, I can't emphasize enough that IMO Samsung's pentile SAMOLED is much better than the pentile LCD on the latest Motorola phones. I haven't really looked at the earlier Moto displays. I have personally looked at the D3 and DX2 and they're quite bothersome to me. A simple comparison can be done in the store by looking at the Fascinate versus the D3 (granted there's still Fascinates in stock).
    And the Fascinate is pentile, too, just the Samoled version. I think this just goes to show that it's all opinion.
    08-18-2011 09:22 AM
  10. nrk's Avatar
    Would be quite ironic indeed. But, I can't emphasize enough that IMO Samsung's pentile SAMOLED is much better than the pentile LCD on the latest Motorola phones. I haven't really looked at the earlier Moto displays. I have personally looked at the D3 and DX2 and they're quite bothersome to me. A simple comparison can be done in the store by looking at the Fascinate versus the D3 (granted there's still Fascinates in stock).
    When I became interested in screen technology a few months ago (when researching my new phone) I went and spent a long time looking at various phones and comparing screens. I like the SAMOLED+ screens, and I don't mind pentile displays assuming they don't bother me. I can notice it in some instance (say the X2 when reading a small webpage) but it doesn't bother me. Likewise overstaturation in SAMOLED+ doesn't bother me either.

    It's probably more semantics than anything else. "Pentile" became a dirty word for, IMO, a mix of valid and invalid reasons. I welcome the power-saving features it may bring to future phones.
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    08-18-2011 09:24 AM
  11. Asterdroid's Avatar
    When I became interested in screen technology a few months ago (when researching my new phone) I went and spent a long time looking at various phones and comparing screens. I like the SAMOLED+ screens, and I don't mind pentile displays assuming they don't bother me. I can notice it in some instance (say the X2 when reading a small webpage) but it doesn't bother me. Likewise overstaturation in SAMOLED+ doesn't bother me either.

    It's probably more semantics than anything else. "Pentile" became a dirty word for, IMO, a mix of valid and invalid reasons. I, for one, welcome our new PenTile overlords.
    Fixed that for you.
    08-18-2011 09:26 AM
  12. Castor Troy's Avatar
    This is one of those things that we should all wait to see in person. There's no way to tell how it will look without even viewing it in person. Not all pentiles are evil.

    Sent from my Droid
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    08-18-2011 09:26 AM
  13. nrk's Avatar
    Fixed that for you.
    Glad you got the reference.

    This is one of those things that we should all wait to see in person. There's no way to tell how it will look without even viewing it in person. Not all pentiles are evil.

    Sent from my Droid
    Agree 100%
    08-18-2011 09:33 AM
  14. DolfanCole's Avatar
    And the Fascinate is pentile, too, just the Samoled version. I think this just goes to show that it's all opinion.
    Correct. My wife has a Fascinate, so I have first hand experience with it. And that's what I base my opinion on -- actually looking at Fascinate's pentile display and comparing it first hand to the D3's and DX2's pentile display.
    08-18-2011 09:35 AM
  15. Droid800's Avatar
    Correct. My wife has a Fascinate, so I have first hand experience with it. And that's what I base my opinion on -- actually looking at Fascinate's pentile display and comparing it first hand to the D3's and DX2's pentile display.
    See, I'm the opposite. The Pentile on SAMOLED makes me cringe, probably due to the oversaturated colors, while moto's LCD pentile doesn't bother me at all. All comes down to personal preference...
    08-18-2011 08:10 PM
  16. Castor Troy's Avatar
    Only Pentile screen I really dislike is the LCD. Worst screen ever invented. I don't think a screen could ever get worse than that.

    If they don't scrap it on the Droid HD I'm going to petition to have have Sanjay publicly executed.

    Use your best English accent here: "Off with his head!!"
    08-18-2011 08:36 PM
  17. yankdez's Avatar
    On another topic, since another leak confirmed 9/8 for the Bionic (and 9/8 was unheard of before this leak came out), this gives more credibility to the original leak that listed the stratosphere as a 4g phone launching on 9/8. and i think most people here believe stratosphere = gs2, sooooo.......
    08-18-2011 09:03 PM
  18. Castor Troy's Avatar
    On another topic, since another leak confirmed 9/8 for the Bionic (and 9/8 was unheard of before this leak came out), this gives more credibility to the original leak that listed the stratosphere as a 4g phone launching on 9/8. and i think most people here believe stratosphere = gs2, sooooo.......
    I'm sticking to my Original prediction a while back. Stratosphere/GSII
    08-18-2011 09:17 PM
  19. Jdm4292's Avatar
    I'm sticking to my Original prediction a while back. Stratosphere/GSII
    I hope you're right... We musn't lose focus though stratosphere seems dead except to those who seek the Gs2.

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
    08-18-2011 09:38 PM
  20. gregba's Avatar
    if the stratosphere has touchwiz 4.0 and isnt the GS2- i might consider it- depending on a few of the other specs
    08-18-2011 09:57 PM
  21. boondoc's Avatar
    SCH-i730 just went through the fcc with verizon freqs, LTE not being one of them.
    08-18-2011 11:28 PM
  22. yankdez's Avatar
    SCH-i730 just went through the fcc with verizon freqs, LTE not being one of them.
    whats the scoop on this phone...i dont have these sch #'s memorized, so I googled it, and this is what came up: SAMSUNG - SCH-i730 customer reviews - product reviews - read top consumer ratings
    08-18-2011 11:37 PM
  23. Castor Troy's Avatar
    SCH-i730 just went through the fcc with verizon freqs, LTE not being one of them.
    Phone is awesome! This is too good to pass up folks.

    Samsung SCH-i730 review

    and check out these specs!!!!!!

    Samsung SCH-i730 Specs, Features (Phone Scoop)
    08-18-2011 11:41 PM
  24. boondoc's Avatar
    i'd have to guess they're recycling their model#'s seeing as how that's an oooooooooooooooooooooold winmo phone. but... the i730 model appears to have some history with verizon so, make of it what you will. looks like it might be the Function or whatever they're going to call it but the 4g LTE slider phone has been going around the web as the i405
    08-18-2011 11:43 PM
  25. yankdez's Avatar
    blast from the past
    08-18-2011 11:43 PM
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